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rmd2 01-07-2021 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1883649)
I would describe that pickle ball sound like a high pitched “ping, ping, ping.
Pickle ball sounds like "bok, bok, bok." I was glad I heard it before I bought a house near a rec center. I knew that sound at 7:30 am would not be welcome.

kenoc7 01-07-2021 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1883516)
Plenty of places to rent. Stay in different locations, travel around, and make your own decision.
For my two cents, as advised, avoid water treatment areas, and I would make sure any location I fancied was not on a through route for either car or cart.
The rest is personal preference.
The best area is the north end - quiet, little traffic and it has lots of trees.

Topspinmo 01-07-2021 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1883474)
Turnpike - not a problem. Quarry - not a problem. Prison - not a problem.
Unless you live close to them :icon_wink:

Topspinmo 01-07-2021 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sallyg (Post 1883643)
We are in Marsh Bend and do not know why there are so many comments like the one above. It is lovely and quiet.

Maybe you’re far enough away where it’s not problem? I can hear 301 traffic when wind from the west and I’m 2 miles from it, never hear it indoors.

meridian5850 01-07-2021 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by sam&rog (Post 1883419)
Be careful in the new area as it is next to the turnpike and a quarry that blasts a couple of times a week.
I live in Fenney and it's maybe once a month. :rolleyes:

Topspinmo 01-07-2021 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1883642)
No sense in debating this very popular area when those that don't live here have a mindset is stuck in neutral.
Maybe the ones that are complaining are the ones that live within yards of turnpike. Or where quarry right across the pasture. Naturally if they don’t live close it not going to bother them.

VILLAGER 2011 01-07-2021 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by LMBNY (Post 1883407)
Looking to buy within the next year and have questions about the topography in TV as a consideration.

Wondering if there are any specific places you would AVOID buying a home due to issues with location. For example flooding/water runoff, air pollution, sink hole repairs (I know you can't predict them) or even insects? Wondering what it's like to live near some of the lakes/swamps/bodies of water for mosquitoes or other bugs?

Thanks!
South of SR 44 is a flood zone area.

Flood insurance is available adjusted for flood zone potential

soonerforever 01-07-2021 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1883667)
Maybe you’re far enough away where it’s not problem? I can hear 301 traffic when wind from the west and I’m 2 miles from it, never hear it indoors.
We live less than a quarter mile from it....been here since September...the noise is NOT an issue.

vintageogauge 01-07-2021 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by VILLAGER 2011 (Post 1883671)
South of SR 44 is a flood zone area.

Flood insurance is available adjusted for flood zone potential
Where did you come up with that one. During Irma the only places that got flooded were up north, no problems at all south of 44, not even a power loss for a minute. When we bought our home south of 44 we checked to see if it was in a flood zone and it is not. The flood control ponds down here do there job very well.

HRDave 01-07-2021 10:23 AM
Chitty Chatty & Bradford
 
We bought a Patio Villa in Chitty Chatty last September after much research & deliberation. We studied The Villages maps & looked for a combination of privacy, beauty & less of the “packed in” feeling. We absolutely love the Chitty Chatty/ Bradford area & the development going on South of 44. We’re connected to “The Mainland “ by the Chitty Chatty bridge, 4 minutes to a beautiful Publix, Walgreens, Marathon Gas, and best of all Paisano’s Italian restaurant. A beautiful 20 minute cart ride to Brownwood (Paddock Square) via Morse & Hillsboro & now the newly opened Brownwood Bridge. Two beautiful Rec. centers minutes away (Rohan & Aviary) a beautiful new Shopping center coming soon (Magnolia Center) and much much more in the coming years. Couldn’t be happier!😎

Stu from NYC 01-07-2021 10:24 AM
Strongly suggest renting for a month or more and travel around and see what appeals to you.

Buying a house near the prison can be convenient if you have friends and family there.

HRDave 01-07-2021 10:32 AM
South of 44 Residential Areas Not in Flood Plains
 
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Originally Posted by VILLAGER 2011 (Post 1883671)
South of SR 44 is a flood zone area.

Flood insurance is available adjusted for flood zone potential
During our research we checked extensively on flood risk & found that the geological flood maps are old & out dated. The Villages developers have significantly changed the topography in the developing areas & their flood control measures are extraordinary. Yup, we’re surrounded by swap preserves, but we’re well above the flood plain. State Farm Insurance even confirmed this prior to insuring our Villa.

springfield 01-07-2021 10:32 AM
I think every area has advantages and disadvantages. We were going to build when we moved here 10 years ago. I kept looking at a preowned on line. Before we made an offer, I parked at the mailboxes and walked the neighborhood. I met so many friendly and helpful people on those walks. It just felt right. The home we did buy had many upgrades from previous owners. We still love our home and neighborhood, so glad we didn’t build. My advice is get a feel for the neighborhood. Good luck in your search.

Rmiller622 01-07-2021 10:40 AM
You should come for the “lifestyle experience”. You can stay up to 7 days fir minimal cost. People love being between Brownwood & Lake Sumter Landing.

I highly recommend that you rent for a yesr to get sure it’s where you want to live. I rented my 1st place and hated every second. My new place in Duval is the best!!
Good luck.

Shadia328 01-07-2021 10:42 AM
You left out the prison.

John41 01-07-2021 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by stu from nyc (Post 1883677)
strongly suggest renting for a month or more and travel around and see what appeals to you.

Buying a house near the prison can be convenient if you have friends and family there.
lol

cbmerl 01-07-2021 11:01 AM
Areas to purchase
 
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1883474)
Turnpike - not a problem. Quarry - not a problem. Prison - not a problem.
Ditto. Ditto and DITTO!!

panamachica 01-07-2021 11:14 AM
Stay away from sewage treatment plants and you don’t want to be ear shot to pickle ball courts.

stebooo 01-07-2021 11:29 AM
North of 466a

cegallup 01-07-2021 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1883677)
Strongly suggest renting for a month or more and travel around and see what appeals to you.

Buying a house near the prison can be convenient if you have friends and family there.
My kind of Village humor !

jimjamuser 01-07-2021 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sallyg (Post 1883602)
If you can rent for a while it would help you decide on an area you prefer. TV is so huge, with so many variables, including home styles, you can't think of everything. If proximity to a rec center is important that might influence you, but then there is noise from the pickle ball courts. Want a water view? There could be mosquitos or unpleasant odors when the water gets low. Good luck.
At my lake in the northern area, there can be some nasty odors if the water gets low in a drought period. It consists of gas produced from drying, dead lake vegetation. Rarely see mosquitoes anywhere I go in TV Land.

Kerndan 01-07-2021 12:51 PM
Not sure but we are going to put our home on the market soon if you want to take a look or walk through beforehand.

valuemkt 01-07-2021 01:15 PM
To sam&rog
 
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Originally Posted by sam&rog (Post 1883419)
Be careful in the new area as it is next to the turnpike and a quarry that blasts a couple of times a week.
Hey guys, do you live in the "new area" ? I do, and can tell you categorically you don;t know what you;re talking about

vintageogauge 01-07-2021 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by valuemkt (Post 1883768)
Hey guys, do you live in the "new area" ? I do, and can tell you categorically you don;t know what you;re talking about
These naysayers have been bashing the south for years. You are correct in the fact that they have no idea how great it is living down here. I'm not singling out any of the negative replies but the bashing is most likely jealousy manifested by the fact that their parents loved their siblings more than they. That happens when you have children with negative personalities.

Boomer 01-07-2021 01:58 PM
The advice to rent is the best advice you are getting in this thread.

Take your time.

Do not get caught up in the sense of urgency that often is an immediate motivator when it comes to sales -- sales of any kind. But with buying a house, it is especially and obviously of top importance to think things through. Look before you leap. Visit. Rent. Try to experience all the things you think you would want to do if you owned in TV.

In addition to the price, the location, the model and all that other surface stuff, I strongly advise you to get the feel of the place. "Feel" is an intangible. When it comes to choosing where you want to live, getting the feel first is something that can get skipped. How does TV 2021 feel to you? Do you think you would like the fit?

I can tell you that since we bought, as snowbirds, in 2013, after visiting and renting since 2007, the feel has changed. Some of that is due to the enormous growth of TV and what that is doing to the ratios of people to things they want to do. And there are other things that contribute to the feel of the place, too.

Bottom line: Get the feel.

Boomer

George Page 01-07-2021 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1883573)
More myths about Southern Oaks that will not die.
Do the math......the further south you go, the thinner the amenities get. I walk to Sumter Landing not a food truck. LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION

vintageogauge 01-07-2021 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by George Page (Post 1883789)
Do the math......the further south you go, the thinner the amenities get. I walk to Sumter Landing not a food truck. LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION
The further south you go the more new amenities are being built that are unique to the southern villages. Not everyone wants to live within walking distance to the squares and listen to the noise all evening. Within the next 60 to 90 days it will be a short golf car ride to the squares if in fact we want to go that route, personally I would sooner take a car. We are less than 10 minutes from many great restaurants and also have the more relaxed atmosphere of Edna's on the green with adult beverages, entertainment, and the food trucks all of which are very popular and attract many people that live north of 44.

Villagesgal 01-07-2021 03:30 PM
Pick a property you like and a home plan that works for you. I'm on a championship golf course, love the view all these years later, had the house built, so it's exactly how we wanted it, still love the house too. Buy what you want, not what others may want. You will be living in it, not them. The County sprays for mosquitoes in season, so don't worry too much about that. Enjoy!

DotComMom 01-07-2021 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 1883539)
Everyone has a different opinion about this and what bothers them. However if it bothers anyone it impacts value and resale. So being next to the turnpike does not bother those that bought there, they will tell you the noise isn’t bad. For them it isn’t. But if you grew up in the country where you never heard traffic it would bother you. But if anything bother some folks it impacts value. So my response is what bothers others and therefor impacts value.

Being close or backing to a busy street, turn[ike, Morse, Stillwater, Buena Vista, etc.
Being next to or close to a treatment plant.
Being close to the power lines
Being close to the railraod tracks
Being close to a golf cart path
Being on the water. There are more bugs and critters.
Backing to another house. Kissing Lanai’s.
Being close to prior sinkholes.
Being close to the prisons and quarries.
Backing to a rec center
Being on a golf course next to a tee box
Backing to land not owned by the villages
Backing to any shopping venue.

Not all these things bother everyone. Some even seek some of these things out. But if you look at a pool of 100 buyers, some of them will not buy because of those items. And that impacts value. At one time I built spread sheets with resale value impact based on sales data. Just as an example, being next to the power line will impact your sale price by 9%. Now lots of folks near the XXXX will argue that they love being next to the XXXX. And I am sure they do. But not everyone does. And that is how you have to think about finding the best location.
Why “backing to land not owned by the The Villages”?

kendi 01-07-2021 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sam&rog (Post 1883419)
Be careful in the new area as it is next to the turnpike and a quarry that blasts a couple of times a week.
We live in the new area and have never heard a blast. Turnpike is no big deal. It’s wonderful down here.

John_W 01-07-2021 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DotComMom (Post 1883816)
Why “backing to land not owned by the The Villages”?
I can give you an example in my village of Tamarind Grove off St. Charles Blvd. Those who bought homes on the west side of TG on the streets Ansley Path and Tamarind Grove Run and in the Village of St. James on Chesapeake Place. When they purchased those homes new in 2011 and 2012 they had big open fields behind their homes with cows grazing. Here is a satellite map of how the land looked before 2017, the red line is TV boundary.

Google Maps

That all changed in 2017 when they started excavation there was a dust storm for six months in our area and those homes now have backyard views of the back of Lowes, Publix and soon to be built Apartments. That's Trailwinds Village, a commercial park. TV offered to buy the land but the City of Wildwood wouldn't approve the purchase, they didn't want another 2,000 new homes. Honestly I glad they didn't, the golf courses in our area would of been saturated and 466A would of been unbearable. I appreciate those new stores. The lesson learned is, vacant land in Florida unless it's protected will be built on someday.

Here is how it looks now. I didn't mention Beaumont Properties, they are due west of Trailwinds have been building townhomes, Apartments and single family homes for past year. Those are directly south of Tamarind Grove Run on the west end.

https://barclaygroup.com/wp-content/...3-1500x630.jpg

vintageogauge 01-07-2021 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1883826)
I can give you an example in my village of Tamarind Grove off St. Charles Blvd. Those who bought homes on the west side of TG on the streets Ansley Path and Tamarind Grove Run and in the Village of St. James on Chesapeake Place. When they purchased those homes new in 2011 and 2012 they had big open fields behind their homes with cows grazing. Here is a satellite map of how the land looked before 2017, the red line is TV boundary.

Google Maps

That all changed in 2017 when they started excavation there was a dust storm for six months in our area and those homes now have backyard views of the back of Lowes, Publix and soon to be built Apartments. That's Trailwinds Village, a commercial park. TV offered to buy the land but the City of Wildwood wouldn't approve the purchase, they didn't want another 2,000 new homes. Honestly I glad they didn't, the golf courses in our area would of been saturated and 466A would of been unbearable. I appreciate those new stores. The lesson learned is, vacant land in Florida unless it's protected will be built on someday.

Here is how it looks now. I didn't mention Beaumont Properties, they are due west of Trailwinds have been building townhomes, Apartments and single family homes for past year. Those are directly south of Tamarind Grove Run on the west end.

https://barclaygroup.com/wp-content/...3-1500x630.jpg
And all of those new homes and apartments will add to the congestion in the area, fill the squares, and many will join the championship courses. We looked at a re-sale home on the golf course across from the Beaumont property before we bought south of 44, the homeowner thought we would be excited to know that stores were coming so near to his house, we were not excited and chose not to buy it although it was a beautiful home.

Just Me 01-07-2021 04:29 PM
I think more than a few people suggested "what's annoying to you may not bother me" and vice-versa; also good advice to rent. I am near a major rec center and if we're on the lanai, it's "BOK-BOK -BOK-BOK-BOK" from Pickleball (okay, figure out which side won the point) nearly constantly. In addition, we live sort of west (on the west side of Buena Vista) and I've been surprised by the "train noise" (whistle, etc.) - everyone said, "Oh, you'll get used to it and won't even hear it after a while!" Uh, 5 years later and it's as loud as ever and still annoying. BUT - you have to mostly be outside to hear these things, and they're minor. It's terrific here, and I'll take these with what The Villages has to offer!

Marathon Man 01-07-2021 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by George Page (Post 1883789)
Do the math......the further south you go, the thinner the amenities get. I walk to Sumter Landing not a food truck. LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION
Did the math. Not true.

Stu from NYC 01-07-2021 07:34 PM
It seems like the more they build out the longer it takes for the amenities and shopping to follow.

At our age did not appeal to buy new and wait years for close by shopping and restaurants.

However ever should take the time to look around and make their own choices.

vintageogauge 01-07-2021 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1883887)
It seems like the more they build out the longer it takes for the amenities and shopping to follow.

At our age did not appeal to buy new and wait years for close by shopping and restaurants.

However ever should take the time to look around and make their own choices.
All of the amenities you pay for in the north are already in place south of 44, lots of good restaurants within 10 minutes retail shopping is not here and I'm in no hurry to see it come and end up with traffic similar to 441 but unfortunately it will be here when the population will support it.

Bilyclub 01-07-2021 07:55 PM
I personally would stay away from anything near those high voltage power transmission lines.

valuemkt 01-07-2021 09:40 PM
coffeebean
 
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1883638)
Turnpike - BIG problem if you do not wish to listen to constant traffic din

Quarry - problem if you do not want your house to rattle a couple of times a month

Prison - problem if you do not want the flood lights visible from your property at night or the faint sound of announcements

I must confide that I do not live south of 44 so I do not have any personal experience with what I have said in this post. I have, however, read many many posts from people who DO have first hand experience with all three issues mentioned. Search this forum and you will find plenty of info about what it’s like living near the Turnpike, the quarry and the prison.
so you admit you have no first hand information regarding your comment. Why do you feel the need to speak on something you know nothing about ? h

valuemkt 01-07-2021 09:41 PM
Flood zone ??
 
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Originally Posted by VILLAGER 2011 (Post 1883671)
South of SR 44 is a flood zone area.

Flood insurance is available adjusted for flood zone potential
Another totally BS comment

CWSBLUE 01-07-2021 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hrdave (Post 1883676)
we bought a patio villa in chitty chatty last september after much research & deliberation. We studied the villages maps & looked for a combination of privacy, beauty & less of the “packed in” feeling. We absolutely love the chitty chatty/ bradford area & the development going on south of 44. We’re connected to “the mainland “ by the chitty chatty bridge, 4 minutes to a beautiful publix, walgreens, marathon gas, and best of all paisano’s italian restaurant. A beautiful 20 minute cart ride to brownwood (paddock square) via morse & hillsboro & now the newly opened brownwood bridge. Two beautiful rec. Centers minutes away (rohan & aviary) a beautiful new shopping center coming soon (magnolia center) and much much more in the coming years. Couldn’t be happier!😎
how dare you be happy??


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