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Jgbama1 06-23-2021 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1963755)
Honestly who cares? It’s not a big deal. It’s part of what they pay for in their amenities. I don’t agree with driving on the fairways when wet, but if people are on the cart path and playing and still have daylight I see no problem. The people out here that are over reacting to this are probably folks that still have masks on! Lighten up people!

You’re part of the problem. It is a big deal! Amenities don’t “entitle” you to do what you darn well please! Disgusting!!

JeanC 06-23-2021 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1963901)
Generally there is an orange cone on the path to the first tee with a "course closed" sign. Hard to imagine that anyone was "unaware"

I agree but the op didn’t elude to a closed sign being located by the first tee.

JeanC 06-23-2021 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dlbonivich (Post 1963982)
Just so you are aware during summer hours you can play a reduced rate late and play. The starter shack is closed and the ambassador is gone. You can play as many holes as you can before dark. Driving on the fairway is not right if it is cart path only, unless the person has a handicap pass.


Are you referring to executive courses?

golfing eagles 06-23-2021 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Thaxxx (Post 1964004)
But Jack Nicholas could.

Don't know him. Is he anything like Jack Nicklaus????

golfing eagles 06-23-2021 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JeanC (Post 1964087)
I agree but the op didn’t elude to a closed sign being located by the first tee.

Well, the OP stated the course was closed. If it was closed, there would have been an orange cone and a sign on the way to the first tee. So your point was????? And while the OP didn't ELUDE any sign, he didn't ALLUDE to one either

Bogie Shooter 06-23-2021 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1963817)
I care and I see a problem

First of all, it wasn't clear if this was an exec or champ course. If it was a champ course these people were TRESPASSING and I would call the community watch if after the clubhouse was closed.

Second, did these people pay a yearly trail fee or was it ala carte? If so, they were stealing from the CDD on an exec

Third, and MOST IMPORTANT, amenities are not solely a benefit paid for in the monthly fee, they come with RESPONSIBILITIES as well.
My amenity fee pays for flowers in the RB's and intersection. Does that mean since I paid I can trample all over them?
I pay to maintain the Rec centers, does that mean I can break in at 2 AM and play billiards? (And no one tell me that isn't the same---when you drive your cart past the "course closed" sign, you are essentially breaking in).
Those who suggest that this behavior is acceptable are just promoting anarchy. (which is what you get when there are no rules or the rules are being ignored.) Imagine what TV would be like if EVERYONE ignored the rules, not just some entitled, selfish few???? You wouldn't survive a RB. or a MMP. There would be dead cyclists and pedestrians strewn all about. The golf courses would look like a minefield. Properties would look like a slum.

If the sign says "course closed", IT IS CLOSED, and for a reason. It's not up to you to decide if it is a valid reason or if you agree with it, or if YOU don't think you are doing any damage. JUST FOLLOW THE RULES!!!!!

End of rant.

You summed it very well!

Bogie Shooter 06-23-2021 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Larchap49 (Post 1963843)
Yes you are

Who. What?

JMintzer 06-23-2021 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1964042)
No, God gave Jack his skills. :ohdear:

Then why can't God hit a 1 iron? Answer me that, Batman...

Oh, and Lee Trevino (who's been struck by lightning THREE TIMES) is credited for that line...

Bogie Shooter 06-23-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by turk3531 (Post 1963900)
ALL par 3's in TV, are cart path only; execs and champ. No CAP, no on the fairways. In wet conditions, CART PATH ONLY! As far as playing after hours playing, the shacks are closed. If conditions allow, it is perfectly OK to play.

Based on what rule?

Bogie Shooter 06-23-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1963941)
You are right, since I pay amenities, the executive courses ARE my business.

You are SO wrong.

Barborv 06-23-2021 02:07 PM

My thing is, that if there's a closed sign or a do not enter sign, etc. I would be afraid to go. What if they're treating the lawn with a chemical or something. Signs are put up for a reason.

Bogie Shooter 06-23-2021 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Debset (Post 1964078)
Community Watch will not do anything.

How do you know?

KYtoTV2021 06-23-2021 03:08 PM

Did the management take all of the flags out? That will deter most people

Ben Franklin 06-23-2021 04:54 PM

It's interesting. I didn't take a count, but it looks like half are for following the rules and half aren't. What a facemask had to do with this is beyond me.

I respect golf courses, even though I am not a consistent player. I was more annoyed at the people driving on the fairway, since it had just poured all afternoon. I used to work part-time, at a country club golf course as a starter-ranger. We could golf for free, plus they paid us. Most of the time we golfed after hours, because employees were allowed, and that was generally the only time available, since we started people off on the first and the ninth at the same time. One evening I saw a group of young "college students" on the 18th (most likely grand kids of some of the homeowners. They were drinking and riding their carts in circles, so I started to drive toward them, and they high tailed it out of their fast, so I went back to my 4 some and we continued playing. When we got to the 18th green, we discovered they had put a beer can in the hole and then put the flag through the top of the can.

I never played with Jack, but I have played with god. He cheats though. One time he had a squirrel pick up his ball and drop it in the hole. On another occasion, an eagle swooped down, picked up his ball and dropped it right next to the flag.

JMintzer 06-23-2021 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1964183)
II never played with Jack, but I have played with god. He cheats though. One time he had a squirrel pick up his ball and drop it in the hole. On another occasion, an eagle swooped down, picked up his ball and dropped it right next to the flag.

That's when Moses complained to God, "Are just gonna' screw around or are you gonna' play golf? :clap2:

Velvet 06-23-2021 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1964114)
You are SO wrong.

Am I? I could be, amenities paying towards the executive courses…

“The Executive Golf Trail of The Villages provides another great avenue for recreation in the active lifestyle of a Villager. They are supported and maintained by the amenities fees of the residents of The Villages, meaning Greens Fees are free for all residents of The Villages. …”

Is this incorrect then?

Papa_lecki 06-23-2021 07:24 PM

Haven’t golfed with God or Jack. But once I jumped ship in Hong Kong and I make my way over to Tibet, and I get on as a looper at a course over in the Himalayas. A looper, you know, a caddy, a looper, a jock. So, I tell them I’m a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama, himself. Twelfth son of the Lama. The flowing robes, the grace, bald… striking. So, I’m on the first tee with him. I give him the driver. He hauls off and whacks one – big hitter, the Lama – long, into a ten-thousand foot crevasse, right at the base of this glacier. Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga… gunga, gunga-lagunga. So we finish the eighteenth and he’s gonna stiff me. And I say, “Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know.” And he says, “Oh, uh, there won’t be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.” So I got that goin’ for me, which is nice.

Topspinmo 06-23-2021 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 1963799)
Which courses? I wish it had been me that saw them. I would have asked for ID numbers. I AM employed by TV.

So, you work for village police department? You can pick any course and they will be there after hours, including championship courses hitting many approach shots on greens.

JMintzer 06-23-2021 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1964235)
Haven’t golfed with God or Jack. But once I jumped ship in Hong Kong and I make my way over to Tibet, and I get on as a looper at a course over in the Himalayas. A looper, you know, a caddy, a looper, a jock. So, I tell them I’m a pro jock, and who do you think they give me? The Dalai Lama, himself. Twelfth son of the Lama. The flowing robes, the grace, bald… striking. So, I’m on the first tee with him. I give him the driver. He hauls off and whacks one – big hitter, the Lama – long, into a ten-thousand foot crevasse, right at the base of this glacier. Do you know what the Lama says? Gunga galunga… gunga, gunga-lagunga. So we finish the eighteenth and he’s gonna stiff me. And I say, “Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know.” And he says, “Oh, uh, there won’t be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness.” So I got that goin’ for me, which is nice.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

Like Clapton, Carl Spackler is God...

Incoblack1 06-23-2021 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben Franklin (Post 1963665)
After the rain, I took a little cart ride this evening and drove past two Executive courses. Both courses were closed, with a "Course Closed" sign on their windows and another sign that read, "Cart Paths Only."

There was a two some who had just teed off on the first hole, at one course, and on the other course there was a foursome in play around the third hole who drove on the fairway. Then, a 3some pulled up to play, without stopping at the starter's shack. I politely told them the course was closed, but they ignored me, and went to the first hole and teed off.

What really annoyed me though were the people who drove on the fairway, after all the rain we just had. The old, Starter/Ranger in me wanted to drive up to them, and read them the riot act.

There are 3 kinds of people in the world. Those who always try and follow the rules. Those that rarely follow the rules believing that they can make better rules. Those who only follow the rules when somebody's watching. We need more of the first kind and less of the last two!

CSB1228 06-24-2021 04:47 AM

Community Watch. Call them. 753-0550

Skunky1 06-24-2021 05:31 AM

Call 911.

golfing eagles 06-24-2021 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Skunky1 (Post 1964305)
Call 911.

I hope you weren't being serious. Because I'm not sure what is worse: Selfish, entitled people flaunting the rules and doing whatever they please, or clogging up an emergency 911 number with this nonsense.

JoeinFL 06-24-2021 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1963996)
all I can say is:

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Thanks. I thought it was just me. Lol

Dantes 06-24-2021 06:16 AM

They must be from Portland

richs631 06-24-2021 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1963755)
Honestly who cares? It’s not a big deal. It’s part of what they pay for in their amenities. I don’t agree with driving on the fairways when wet, but if people are on the cart path and playing and still have daylight I see no problem. The people out here that are over reacting to this are probably folks that still have masks on! Lighten up people!

Bravo, my thoughts exactly. I personally don’t do it but folks just need to lighten up and enjoy life

richs631 06-24-2021 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1963823)
Really. So if you were driving down your street and saw some kids with a can of spray paint putting graffiti on a neighbor's house you would "mind your own business"? I'm glad you're not my neighbor.

How in the world do you equivocate spray painting a house to playing golf when the course is closed

golfing eagles 06-24-2021 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by richs631 (Post 1964325)
Bravo, my thoughts exactly. I personally don’t do it but folks just need to lighten up and enjoy life

Again, the topic is not playing after hours when the course has been open. There is a mechanism that allows for that. The discussion is about people playing on a CLOSED course. And I don't understand why it required this many posts---it's simple----CLOSED MEANS CLOSED. No exceptions. No deciding for yourself if it is playable. No walking your dog, riding your bike or walking the paths. Just follow the rules and STAY OUT. For all you know a sinkhole opened up, or a hole was dug and not yet marked, or toxic chemicals were applied, etc. Again, it is not up to YOU to decide when the course is CLOSED

golfing eagles 06-24-2021 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by richs631 (Post 1964332)
How in the world do you equivocate spray painting a house to playing golf when the course is closed

Both equal trespassing
Both can cause damage

How do YOU NOT see it??????

Besides, the context was in regard to ignoring blatant trespassing and "minding your own business". Don't cherry pick

Girlcopper 06-24-2021 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pvetrano1 (Post 1963766)
Who cares ! Don't you have more important things to worry about ?

I was thinking the same thing. OP knows exactly what hole they were at, watched them drive past the shack, drive on the greens etc. Obviously needs to join a few clubs or something to occupy their time so they wont be tailing people around. Condos call that type “condo commandos”

mrrmauu 06-24-2021 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sherryszekeres@gmail.com (Post 1963965)
My husband is from Allentown. We sure miss those steak sandwiches.

The Brass Rail!!!!!

stanley 06-24-2021 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1963672)
Entitled and priviledged. There are quite a few here on this forum that think that's OK.


Jeez......There's quite a few more here than I thought

Windguy 06-24-2021 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 1964011)
Course Closed - probably not for the rain but because it was that course’s maintenance day.

My group was scheduled to play when rain was predicted. I chose to stay home and two decided to play. The downpour hit when they were on the fourth green at Palmetto. They waited for the rain to die down momentarily and then finished the hole despite the green being drenched. They got a text or call from the starter shack telling them to get off the course. They did.

It was most certainly because of the rain and the possibility of damaging the course.

Billy1 06-24-2021 07:39 AM

People have always practiced on golf courses after hours, Pros that grew up on golf courses tell stories of playing after hours.

dewilson58 06-24-2021 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Windguy (Post 1964387)
They got a text or call from the starter shack telling them to get off the course.

Hmmmmm. How did the starter know their number??

Goodi70 06-24-2021 07:44 AM

This person said he/she was driving "past" the exec courses - never said they were on the c ourse

Windguy 06-24-2021 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by richs631 (Post 1964332)
How in the world do you equivocate spray painting a house to playing golf when the course is closed

Just a guess, but I think it would be cheaper to remove a tag from a building than to repair a bunch of footprints on the green and deep ruts in the fairways.

JMintzer 06-24-2021 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1964391)
Hmmmmm. How did the starter know their number??

Probably is linked to your Villages ID...

Windguy 06-24-2021 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1964391)
Hmmmmm. How did the starter know their number??

Are you just curious or accusing me of lying?

Maybe because it’s in the database? Just like the Community Watch knows what number to call when you leave your garage door open at night.

Windguy 06-24-2021 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy1 (Post 1964388)
People have always practiced on golf courses after hours, Pros that grew up on golf courses tell stories of playing after hours.

This wasn’t after hours. It was after the rain stopped. The courses were closed due to wet conditions.


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