Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 1061786)

This is the arrogance. Why do bicyclists want to hold up of a string of cars/trucks behind them, by going 15-20 on the bike when everyone else can be going 30-35????

How about some consideration for the majority of vehicle drivers who want to keep traffic flowing at 30-35 mph??

Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 (Post 1061800)

Same road - same rules?

When the large group of bicyclers go blowing through the stop signs, is that the same rules as cars or carts?

Most of the time, it does not bother me at all when a single cycler does that but really gets me when the group of 15 or so cyclers all do it together.

Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 1061786)

This is the arrogance. Why do bicyclists want to hold up of a string of cars/trucks behind them, by going 15-20 on the bike when everyone else can be going 30-35????

How about some consideration for the majority of vehicle drivers who want to keep traffic flowing at 30-35 mph??

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1061808)

Cyclists are allowed to use the roads just like cars. If this is an inconvenience to you that is just something you are going to have to live with. The roads are a shared resource. That is the way things work in society. It is arrogant of you to think that the roads do not have to be shared.

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1061812)

Why you would continue to hold onto a belief that cars have more of a right to the roads than cyclists is beyond me. Cyclists have just as much of a right to use the roads as cars.

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1061769)

Using the whole lane is not only the law but it is also a safety issue. Please see my previous posts about why cyclists should use the entire lane on some occasions. Issues such as insurance and licensing really have nothing to do with the rules of the road; those are administrative issues. Nearly everyone runs stop signs and there are a lot more cars running stop signs then bicycles. As I stated earlier, bicycles are essentially slow moving cars and need to be treated as such.You should pass cyclists when it is safe and lawful to do so, just as you would a slower moving car. This is really a pretty simple concept.

If you are unhappy with the law then you are free to try to change it. Regarding pennbfs' post, I didn't miss the point; he was trolling.

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1061913)

Let's just agree to disagree.

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1061655)

I also ride. I don't know where you get this idea that you are legally entitled to the whole lane. Florida law is clear about this. You are required to ride as far to the right of the road as safely as possible. That does not entitle you to the whole lane.

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1062006)

Disagree on what? The facts? There is nothing to debate here - I am only passing on the law.

Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1061655)

I also ride. I don't know where you get this idea that you are legally entitled to the whole lane. Florida law is clear about this. You are required to ride as far to the right of the road as safely as possible. That does not entitle you to the whole lane.

Originally Posted by Justus (Post 1062034)

:The only way this issue will be resolved is if cyclists are required to be educated, tested and licensed if they choose to use public roads. That is the case in California; if they violate traffic laws there, they are ticketed, fined or hauled off in handcuffs, just like any other irresponsible driver.

Originally Posted by Justus (Post 1062034)

:BigApplause: Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

Florida law IS explicit about this!

Originally Posted by tuccillo (Post 1061681)

Feel free to write your representatives about changing the law. Until then, the law is what it is.

Biking clothes are functional. Padded shorts for comfort in the saddle and brightly colored jerseys for improved visibility. No different than any other sport.

3' is 3'. Violate the law at your own peril.