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Advogado 02-21-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 833045)
You do realize that the planned rec center will only be about 60 x 100. take out the restrooms and storage, there will not be a lot of room left. Some people have homes larger than that. What bothers me the most is that Lambrect is the only AAC member who looked at the present building and he voted no. The hired inspector also gave an opinion that the AAC should not make the purchase. The AAC did not do any of the necessary homework, went ahead against advice of the inspector and paid $350.000 for a building that needs to be demolished (at a cost to the AAC), does not have parking (parking is property of the present rec center). so basically they paid this huge sum for a spot of ground. The final blow is the AAC also spent a lot of time considering a restaurant in the present building but evidently had overlooked a provision in the sales agreement that the building COULD NOT be used as restaurant.

Rich Lambrecht has done a lot for this community, all on a volunteer basis-- including serving as one of the lead plaintiffs in the class-action lawsuit against the Developer. He frequently speaks at POA meetings, and what he says has always made a lot of sense.

ROCKETMAN 02-21-2014 01:31 PM

All of the errors made in this purchase are making it look like they didn't even read the sale document or look at the footprint to see what the rec center size and parking would be. I was impressed with rich lambrecht for catching the part in the vote against striping. They will take it up again at the next aac meeting. He remarked he has never seen a topic that no one is against doing except the powers that rule.

Bogie Shooter 02-21-2014 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 833045)
You do realize that the planned rec center will only be about 60 x 100. take out the restrooms and storage, there will not be a lot of room left. Some people have homes larger than that. What bothers me the most is that Lambrect is the only AAC member who looked at the present building and he voted no. The hired inspector also gave an opinion that the AAC should not make the purchase. The AAC did not do any of the necessary homework, went ahead against advice of the inspector and paid $350.000 for a building that needs to be demolished (at a cost to the AAC), does not have parking (parking is property of the present rec center). so basically they paid this huge sum for a spot of ground. The final blow is the AAC also spent a lot of time considering a restaurant in the present building but evidently had overlooked a provision in the sales agreement that the building COULD NOT be used as restaurant.

This is an example of the inmates running the asylum.

drcar 02-21-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 831867)
yes for the tamarind dog problem that land behind is owned by the developer and he has community watch at $30.00 an hour patroling it. What they said was you can have your dog on a leach walking through the area but not dogs running around like a dog park. That was it.

FYI Community watch was in Tamarind Grove this afternoon stopping people from walking dogs on a leash.

Bogie Shooter 02-21-2014 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by drcar (Post 833179)
FYI Community watch was in Tamarind Grove this afternoon stopping people from walking dogs on a leash.

Yea!

Advogado 02-21-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 833154)
This is an example of the inmates running the asylum.

Since the Developer's representative cast (improperly it turns out) the deciding vote, maybe it was the Developer unloading a white elephant on the residents?

Bogie Shooter 02-21-2014 03:43 PM

[quote=Advogado;833201]Since the Developer's representative cast (improperly it turns out) the deciding vote, maybe it was the Developer unloading a white elephant on the residents?[/quote

I stand on my statement.

bargee 02-21-2014 08:50 PM

Santiago Solution
 
Demolish the building,pave it over and hire a couple of those high class food trucks that are all the rage in the big city to come in and serve.Problem solved.Drive in golf cart service.

mickey100 02-22-2014 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 833045)
You do realize that the planned rec center will only be about 60 x 100. take out the restrooms and storage, there will not be a lot of room left. Some people have homes larger than that. What bothers me the most is that Lambrect is the only AAC member who looked at the present building and he voted no. The hired inspector also gave an opinion that the AAC should not make the purchase. The AAC did not do any of the necessary homework, went ahead against advice of the inspector and paid $350,000 for a building that needs to be demolished (at a cost to the AAC), does not have parking (parking is property of the present rec center). so basically they paid this huge sum for a spot of ground. The final blow is the AAC also spent a lot of time considering a restaurant in the present building but evidently had overlooked a provision in the sales agreement that the building COULD NOT be used as restaurant.

$350,000 for a spot of land that doesn't have parking and cannot be used as a restaurant. Brilliant move by AAC, not.

Warren Kiefer 02-25-2014 07:30 PM

This is disturbing.
 
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Originally Posted by mickey100 (Post 833675)
$350,000 for a spot of land that doesn't have parking and cannot be used as a restaurant. Brilliant move by AAC, not.

Everyone should read the POA Bulletin left in our driveways today. On page 8 is a very disturbing article. In essence the AAC paid the equalivent of $1,590,909.00 per acre for the El Santaigo 0.22 acre. There is a lot of information in this article so I suggest you read the entire Article #10 on page 5, it contains some very interesting facts.

graciegirl 02-26-2014 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 835319)
Everyone should read the POA Bulletin left in our driveways today. On page 8 is a very disturbing article. In essence the AAC paid the equalivent of $1,590,909.00 per acre for the El Santaigo 0.22 acre. There is a lot of information in this article so I suggest you read the entire Article #10 on page 5, it contains some very interesting facts.


Correct me if I am wrong.



The folks who lead the POA sued the developer and as a result control of the area north of 466 was given over to residents.( the AAC). The AAC bought a building that was a restaurant that had sit empty for 350K from Sumter Inc. About the cost of a designer home.


There is much arguing now because some residents want it as a restaurant which is not allowed.

missypie 02-26-2014 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 831851)
Went to a poa meeting last night. Crowd of close 800 and had to use overflow room. President runs meeting like a drill instructor which is good because otherwise with that many people it would get out of control. President reported another golf cart theft that wasn't in the paper yet, was a friend of hers. Also she gets updated by sumter county sheriff and said the robberies may be linked to a cleaning service. Detecties are working on it. Open forum had rich lambrecht a supervisor answer questions about cart lane striping which was killed by a 3-3 vote but he said that a mistake in voting which i didn't quite understand might make it 4-2 for the striping. Speaker talked on golf cart insurence, bottom line check with your agent to see whats covered as far as liability especially. Comic moment was when an elderly gentlemen asked when your at a red light with your golf cart, what are you supposed to do.



So sad that people would laugh at a question that an elderly man asked. Sometimes people say things in a different way than it was intended.

Sorry to be so incensed about this but I have much compassion and respect for the elderly.

graciegirl 02-26-2014 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by missypie (Post 835518)
So sad that people would laugh at a question that an elderly man asked. Sometimes people say things in a different way than it was intended.

Sorry to be so incensed about this but I have much compassion and respect for the elderly.



That is probably why we get along Missy. I AM elderly.

missypie 02-26-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 835520)
That is probably why we get along Missy. I AM elderly.

NO WAY! You know exactly what I mean!!!!! LOL!!!

Warren Kiefer 02-26-2014 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 835509)
Correct me if I am wrong.



The folks who lead the POA sued the developer and as a result control of the area north of 466 was given over to residents.( the AAC). The AAC bought a building that was a restaurant that had sit empty for 350K from Sumter Inc. About the cost of a designer home.


There is much arguing now because some residents want it as a restaurant which is not allowed.

Not exactly but close. Actually $350,000 is more in line with premier homes. The resriction of the old El Santiago building not being used as a restaurant was part of the contract prior to the AAC making the purchase. Sadly the question of any restrictions came up several times during AAC meetings. The answer given to the board was ther are no provisions in the sales contract preventing the use of the building as a restaurant. A building inspector advised against the purchase as did Jo Weber and Rich Lambrecht. The building probably cannot be salvaged and the price paid for the site relates to a per acre cost of $1,590,909 per acre. Check out the very informed article in the recent March POA bulletin, page 8.


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