Well, 100% exactly, Eagles. Why is that simple conclusion so difficult for so many?

Yes, we need some of these things in the modern era but, the questions of how much and what is too much should always be on the table. It should be an ongoing public discussion and learning process.

Here's another ugly one: Agent Orange - Wikipedia
Back in the 80s in the office where I worked, over the span of few years, three men in their 40s developed aggressive cancers and died. All three were Vietnam vets.

The office manager, a man about 10 - 12 years older than they, and who had not served in Vietnam, stated with amazement, "I can't help but wonder if their exposure to Agent Orange is what caused cancer in all of them. Cancer at that age is not typical."

We all learn! Every day, in every way, we are getting better and better (whether we know it or not! ).
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If you want. Actually, I was thinking "tomatoes ".

And my brother, who served in DaNang and some jungle died of lung cancer at age 62. It must have been agent orange. Unless it was the 2 packs/day of Marlboro since age 16

Is that what they call it now?! Those silly ‘designers!

You had me GE....you almost had me! ;)

You can use vinegar to kill weeds. And there is a stronger version of regular vinegar which would kill them faster.

I HAD a friend that died earlier than he probably should. He thought that his illness was the result of working for Motorola and being exposed to chemicals in cell phone batteries. No way to definitively prove it.

Well, in fact, it could have been both that contributed to his cancer, you see? Both are known carcinogens.

Which brings us back around to your prior point of "how much is too much" and what cumulative affects are created? It is really THE question.

I recall a quick story that ties into that. About 25 yrs ago, my brother had a terrible gnat problem in his finished basement. He tried many things, incl pro pest control, I think. Finally, he decided he had to fog the basement. (Those insect foggers are nasty but, they do work).

Not sure how many times he did it but, knowing him, he probably didn't follow the directions carefully. You have to cover all the furniture with sheets and set the thing off when you're leaving the house for at least 2 days. Upon returning, carefully gather the sheets and put them in a HOT wash cycle. Then, thoroughly vacuum or mop the entire floor, clean window sills, etc. You do all that b/c there is carcinogenic dust everywhere.

Well, some months after he did the fogging, his 4 year old dog got cancer, malignant, got the tumor removed but, it grew back and she died at 4 1/2 yrs old. Even he later said, "I wonder if it was the diazinon that was in those foggers." She probably inhaled plenty of that dust and maybe licked it off her paws if he didn't clean up well.

Hhmm, how about that: diazinon is now outlawed for residential use in the USA since 2004 because of human health risks. Diazinon - Wikipedia

Personally I think that in the last 10 years there is MORE fertilizer run-off into the smaller drainage lakes. This causes MORE of the underwater grass (like fresh water seaweed) to grow than I remember from 10 years ago. Has anyone else come to that conclusion ?

me! 😉

We are still looking for more natural ways of keeping weed out of our lawn. I got tired of paying someone to use chemicals that are not good for pets or wildlife in to kill weeds in our landscaping. I have found a couple of solutions for weeds around our bushes, in driveway cracks and in pavered patios. Boiling water will kill weeds. I have a special teapot that heats up fast and is in an isulated carafe that won't burn me! Just don't put boiling water on anything you DO want to grow in your yard. The other thing I use is a long handled adjustable propane blow torch. Again, you can spot kill all of the weeds in your landscaped beds in a very short time. Just walk around your house once a week and spot burn them. They often times do not grow back. Be careful not to start a fire and keep a big bucket of water or a hose handy.

Keep you animals off of my yard, I have a yard service and use the side walks

What do you use to keep weeds out of your lawn?

The weeds ARE my lawn! All except the bare spots. Keep your dogs off my dirt and weeds. They disturb the fire ants, dag rabbit! 🤯🤬👺