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photo1902 04-30-2016 10:22 AM

Driving south on 27/441 yesterday around 2pm, with heavy traffic, I thought how utterly preposterous it would be for everyone to be in the right lane unless making a left turn, passing, etc. The sign (and the law) are ridiculous for local roads that need 2 and sometimes 3 lanes to handle the traffic.

ColdNoMore 04-30-2016 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1219709)
There is no violation for speeding. But there still can be a violation for blocking traffic...yes...even traffic exceeding the speed limit.

You are absolutely correct.

Polar Bear 04-30-2016 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1219711)
...with heavy traffic, I thought how utterly preposterous it would be for everyone to be in the right lane unless making a left turn, passing, etc...

You're right. But the law in question simply does not apply to the situation you describe.

The law prohibits just cruising endlessly in the left lane blocking faster traffic when the right lane is available. "Heavy traffic" precludes such a situation.

rubicon 04-30-2016 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1219711)
Driving south on 27/441 yesterday around 2pm, with heavy traffic, I thought how utterly preposterous it would be for everyone to be in the right lane unless making a left turn, passing, etc. The sign (and the law) are ridiculous for local roads that need 2 and sometimes 3 lanes to handle the traffic.

photo1902: we probably were keyboarding about the same time. I made the same observation in post 102 as you did above. The posted traffic message by LOE is going to create confusion

Walter123 04-30-2016 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1219859)
photo1902: we probably were keyboarding about the same time. I made the same observation in post 102 as you did above. The posted traffic message by LEO is going to create confusion

But it's Crystal clear now, right?

photo1902 04-30-2016 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1219748)
You're right. But the law in question simply does not apply to the situation you describe.

The law prohibits just cruising endlessly in the left lane blocking faster traffic when the right lane is available. "Heavy traffic" precludes such a situation.

"Crusing endlessly" , ha. Yeah right. There's so much opportunity for that around here and on local roads. Give me a break.

Polar Bear 04-30-2016 07:36 PM

Police Dept. sign on 466
 
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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1219956)
"Crusing endlessly" , ha. Yeah right. There's so much opportunity for that around here and on local roads. Give me a break.

Exactly.

That's why the law rarely even applies in TV. You mentioned "around here and on local roads". I didn't.

Give ME a break.

Topspinmo 04-30-2016 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1219963)
Exactly.

That's why the law rarely even applies in TV. You mentioned "around here and on local roads". I didn't.

Give ME a break.


May get ticket if blocking the left lane . Read para. 3 . The big IF word. No Leo going to give someone ticket it they're not blocking traffic. If someone going 45 which is the limit and left lanes going 46 he is passing so they don't get ticket unless they are going the same exact speed or less. I don't like slow pokes in the left lane either, but until I see them getting tickets along with dozens of other violations it all hot air.

Walter123 05-01-2016 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1220007)
May get ticket if blocking the left lane . Read para. 3 . The big IF word. No Leo going to give someone ticket it they're not blocking traffic. If someone going 45 which is the limit and left lanes going 46 he is passing so they don't get ticket unless they are going the same exact speed or less. I don't like slow pokes in the left lane either, but until I see them getting tickets along with dozens of other violations it all hot air.

:agree:

Walter123 05-01-2016 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1219956)
"Crusing endlessly" , ha. Yeah right. There's so much opportunity for that around here and on local roads. Give me a break.

:agree:

photo1902 05-01-2016 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1219963)
Exactly.

That's why the law rarely even applies in TV. You mentioned "around here and on local roads". I didn't.

Give ME a break.

Then why put the sign up in The Villages. It doesn't make sense.

Polar Bear 05-01-2016 07:29 AM

Police Dept. sign on 466
 
Basic point...if there is a significant amount of traffic, everybody is blocking traffic to one degree or another. That's why the law rarely applies in TV.

I also would agree that no LEO is going to issue a citation unless it's an extreme case. I'm okay with that.

I cannot speak to the appropriateness of any given sign.

outlaw 05-01-2016 07:34 AM

Why not work with the spirit of the law and sign message, and live on the wild side. Maintain a speed just a little bit faster than the right lane traffic. That way you are always in passing mode. And, as a bonus, you may get to exceed the speed limit a little bit. Win win.

rubicon 05-01-2016 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by spring_chicken (Post 1215608)
I have no idea. I posted the info after seeing the sign, in hopes that people would follow the law. Not argue that it shouldn't be a law, or try to dream up scenarios where it would cause a wreck. I think some folks should stay home, wrapped in bubble wrap with a helmet on their head.

spring-chicken: Until the LOE posted their sign drivers believed they were following the rules. If traffic was too slow to the right vehicles passed to the left. If traffic was slow in both the right and left lane drivers waited for an opportunity to make their move. Most drivers strive to at least keep traffic flow moving . Heck if your moving in most places its not traffic:D

Passing is one thing unsafe passing another the same with speed .

Again we clearly find those individuals with a philosophy of "what's your hurry your retired", except that if everyone adapted to that philosophy we would have bottlenecks 24/7 on the roads in and around The Villages. And yet I've witnessed a number of times over the years where retirees actually try and police a highway by blocking traffic. Again the highways were are talking about carry the public at large and many of them are not retired and are on a schedule

I try really try but Sunday drivers any day of the week test my patience

Topspinmo 05-01-2016 11:19 AM

Yesterday I did little test speed. I drove exactly 35 MPH down BV 7 miles in the right lane. I got passed by 98 % of all vehicles. Actually it was hard to maintain the speed limit with everyone passing me. The only thing that broke my speed was after the stop light on 466 I had to slow down cause left lane vehicle would not speed up to let faster traffic go by.

I also observed how many other traffic laws were broke. Changing lanes with out using blinker light, not signaling when exiting round out causing north bound traffic to come to stop, changing lane in roundabout (entering In right lane, switching to left lane and exiting in the right lane) right lane going to the third exit to exit causing left lane traffic stand still. The obnoxious speeder going 10 to 15 MPH over the speed limit. My favor stopping at the roundabout when NO traffic is coming or in the roundabout. Like I said LEOS have bigger fish to fry.


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