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Deden 11-04-2022 09:29 AM

Good for you! Glad you stood your ground!!!

Deden 11-04-2022 09:33 AM

Way 2 many people 2 get it done in one day

Deden 11-04-2022 09:40 AM

The thing is, you sign in what party ur in, and they let u know when they receive and when ur vote was counted.

PugMom 11-04-2022 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2154320)
I agree with the above post. I plan on voting next Tuesday, on Election Day, when people have voted forever and should only be allowed to vote unless they have extreme extenuating circumstances. What’s up with this BS of having voting starting weeks before the election, it opens up a can of rancid worms.

i agree more than you know.

PugMom 11-04-2022 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2154314)
I voted yesterday. It was well organized, no one outside shoving signs in our faces on our way in. Only one minor criticism, was the pair of official observers. One of them was kinda lurking directly behind one voter while I was coming in, and the other one tried lurking directly behind me right after I sat down and started filling in the vote circles. I stopped, put that plastic card over my ballot, and just stared at her, waiting, until she finally walked away.

My vote is my business, no one else's unless I choose to share it with someone else.[/QUOTE

I had been seeing those lurkers in Arizona and wondered what reaction I would have to something like that, well I think I would take their photo with my phone and if they challenged me I would tell them that they are stalking me and I need a hoto of them for the police. We need to be proactive in the face of this invasion of our privacy..


may i respectfully reply they are just doing their job. (no one should be looking @ WHO you vote for)

PugMom 11-04-2022 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sallyg (Post 2154403)
There are ads for DeSantis on this page. Who posted and why is this allowed?

if you use private browsing you won't see ANY ads. it's most refreshing! :clap2:

billethkid 11-04-2022 09:51 AM

over 2000 hits and less than 50 responses/participants......sad but statistically typical......even allowing for repeat contacts.

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VApeople 11-04-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2154477)
Are they still letting the dead vote yet?

Yes.

If I die today, the vote I cast a few days ago will still count.

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-04-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2154363)
First time voting in Florida. Are the lines long on Election Day? Had planned on voting on Election Day but if lines are long, I may vote early.

Please advise.

When I voted at the Lady Lake Library for the 2020 election the line was halfway around the building, just to get in. Then it was another 1/2 hour before I received the ballot and directed toward a booth to fill it out.

About an hour and a half in total, with an hour of it waiting outside. If you have to go to the bathroom, you lose your place and have to start over. If it's raining, bring an umbrella. If the sun is beating on your head and you're only taking 1 step forward every 5 minutes, better wear a hat, sunscreen, and bring plenty of water. Just don't give the water to anyone else who might need some, that is now illegal. And if you do need to drink plenty of water, remember the bathroom thing - you start over in the back of the line if you have to go.

Compare with this past Wednesday when I got to the community center, walked right in, there were two people ahead of me and one was on her way to the lady checking for IDs and handing out the ballots. The other person ahead of me was seen within a minute of that, and I was seen around two minutes later.

I was out less than 10 minutes after I walked in, and no lines at all to get in.

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-04-2022 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2154505)
over 2000 hits and less than 50 responses/participants......sad but statistically typical......even allowing for repeat contacts.

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I've clicked to this thread several times, and each time counts. Lots of people check back threads they've participated in. So figure MOST of those 2000 hits are the same 150 people. (it's up to 154 as of a minute ago - and woops there's another click that I clicked to check!)

jimjamuser 11-04-2022 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2154193)
It seems to me that all of this early voting and voting by mail has done nothing but cause problems.

Even if there haas been on impropriety, the impression that there has been has upset a lot of people.

I understand that it gives more people the opportunity to vote but I think that a better solution would be to hold election over one weekend. Twelve hours on Saturday and twelve hours on Sunday. If you can't fit that into your schedule, you just don't care enough.

There would have to be mail in ballots for people that are out of the country or away from their homes but those should have to be applied for and should be a minimal amount.

A MUCH better solution would be to REQUIRE voting as the Australians do. In Australia, if you DON'T vote, you must pay a penalty in your yearly Federal tax form. So, I understand that they get close to 100% election participation. Now, that IS a country and a system that I could be proud of. That's a no-nonsense country!

Kenswing 11-04-2022 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2154531)
A MUCH better solution would be to REQUIRE voting as the Australians do. In Australia, if you DON'T vote, you must pay a penalty in your yearly Federal tax form. So, I understand that they get close to 100% election participation. Now, that IS a country and a system that I could be proud of. That's a no-nonsense country!

I still don’t understand why you haven’t moved there yet. You seem so infatuated with the way they run things.

As for me, I won’t be forced to vote. What if there isn’t a candidate that I can support? Just pick the lesser of two evils? No thanks.

jimjamuser 11-04-2022 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2154247)
Fair is perhaps an important word with no clear definition. "Son and DIL vote every election from out of the country since they are living in Australia."
I do wonder if they do not live in the United States why would they vote in the United States?

It is rather a huge system. It has to be. Imagine if the system had to approve or disapprove each vote. We voted early. It took, or should take far longer to study the issues, and who you choose to vote for compared to the time to get to the poll show your IDENTIFICATION, prove you are a citizen, you are who you are, you are ALIVE etc

As to that question in the 2nd line.........I believe that a person carries their citizenship WHEREVER they go.

Bill14564 11-04-2022 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2154459)

I had been seeing those lurkers in Arizona and wondered what reaction I would have to something like that, well I think I would take their photo with my phone and if they challenged me I would tell them that they are stalking me and I need a hoto of them for the police. We need to be proactive in the face of this invasion of our privacy..

I believe the lurkers OBB mentioned and the lurkers in AZ are different.

OBB's lurkers are officially working inside the polling place. She felt they were paying too much attention to what she was doing with her ballot.

The AZ lurkers are outside the polling place. They seem to be paying attention to who is entering to vote.

I suspect it is illegal to take pictures inside the polling place.

Win1894 11-04-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2154531)
A MUCH better solution would be to REQUIRE voting as the Australians do. In Australia, if you DON'T vote, you must pay a penalty in your yearly Federal tax form. So, I understand that they get close to 100% election participation. Now, that IS a country and a system that I could be proud of. That's a no-nonsense country!

This makes no sense to me - voting to avoid a monetary fine. I'm one of those who really don't care what percentage of the population votes. I care much more that the people who do vote, vote using rational thought for their selection. For example, I know too many who vote lock-step for the party that their family has voted for - a tradition so to speak. No thought goes into the process at all. I also know a lot of really stupid people who vote and have to ask myself if I really want these people to vote - and I'm not saying they all don't have a right to vote, but do you really think you get better governance merely with a higher percentage of the population voting?

daddymac1127 11-04-2022 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2154531)
A MUCH better solution would be to REQUIRE voting as the Australians do. In Australia, if you DON'T vote, you must pay a penalty in your yearly Federal tax form. So, I understand that they get close to 100% election participation. Now, that IS a country and a system that I could be proud of. That's a no-nonsense country!

What if you do not like what any of the candidates stand for or cannot determine what they stand for?

lawgolfer 11-04-2022 05:15 PM

I was going to post the same thing! Mayor Daley waited until the downstate vote was and then brought out the number of ballot boxes he needed.

Retiredsteve 11-04-2022 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 2154247)
Fair is perhaps an important word with no clear definition. "Son and DIL vote every election from out of the country since they are living in Australia."
I do wonder if they do not live in the United States why would they vote in the United States?

It is rather a huge system. It has to be. Imagine if the system had to approve or disapprove each vote. We voted early. It took, or should take far longer to study the issues, and who you choose to vote for compared to the time to get to the poll show your IDENTIFICATION, prove you are a citizen, you are who you are, you are ALIVE etc

They may live out of the country due to work and not be a citizen of the country they are now living in. Many reasons can apply

tophcfa 11-04-2022 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2154531)
A MUCH better solution would be to REQUIRE voting as the Australians do. In Australia, if you DON'T vote, you must pay a penalty in your yearly Federal tax form. So, I understand that they get close to 100% election participation. Now, that IS a country and a system that I could be proud of. That's a no-nonsense country!

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Originally Posted by daddymac1127 (Post 2154638)
What if you do not like what any of the candidates stand for or cannot determine what they stand for?

Write in somebody not on the ticket. Tom Brady has gotten a lot of votes for president. Hell, Neil Young has even gotten a few votes.

Djean1981 11-04-2022 11:11 PM

Vote on election day.

VApeople 11-05-2022 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2154531)
A MUCH better solution would be to REQUIRE voting as the Australians do.

What a horrible idea!!

In the United States of America, our ancestors had to fight for their independence, and we really cherish our freedoms. We don't accept leaders who want to boss us around.

Maybe countries that did not have to fight for their independence accept authoritarian leaders, but not Americans.

frose 11-05-2022 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2154107)
Did you vote?

None of anybody’s business.

Tvflguy 11-05-2022 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by frose (Post 2155014)
None of anybody’s business.

Hmm. I simply cannot understand comments as this. Don’t take part in the poll. Period. Poll does not ID folks at all. Doesn’t ask why or who. Jeez.

VApeople 11-06-2022 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LuvNH (Post 2155106)
What a really stupid and juvenile comment. Just about everything of any importance in our lives is decided by someone you voted for!

We only have one leader and, as our court system has ruled, he does not have the power to boss us around, unless we serve in the military.

I'm Popeye! 11-06-2022 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2154450)
It's only a problem for people who lose.

Or have NO TRUST in the government...

jebartle 11-06-2022 02:12 PM

Curious, why would anyone not vote, hmmmmm! Sick? Disabled? Could mail, just wondering. None of my business, inquiring minds want to know, if you want to tell.

Pairadocs 11-07-2022 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 2154193)
It seems to me that all of this early voting and voting by mail has done nothing but cause problems.

Even if there haas been on impropriety, the impression that there has been has upset a lot of people.

I understand that it gives more people the opportunity to vote but I think that a better solution would be to hold election over one weekend. Twelve hours on Saturday and twelve hours on Sunday. If you can't fit that into your schedule, you just don't care enough.

There would have to be mail in ballots for people that are out of the country or away from their homes but those should have to be applied for and should be a minimal amount.

I could not agree more. How and Why we (the people) ever started all this in the name of "fairness", "inclusion" is beyond my understanding. It has NOT "improved" access or insured accuracy, if anything, has greatly expanded the possibility of errors, "lost" ballots, "unauthorized" individuals and/or vehicles transporting ballots, just an endless list of circumstances for incorrect counts. When I was young election DAY was just that, the DAY an election was held. The hours were long, before sunrise to after sunset, to accommodate working people who worked any shift. If anyone had a problem, it was EXPECTED and in some places REQUIRED, the an employer give an employee permission to leave a few minutes early, or arrive a few minutes late, without penalty, to support voting. The votes were counted that night. My parents both worked at elections. I always had to stay with my grandparents, or at the home of friends, because they worked the entire night counting, and recounting to make sure there were no errors. I would not be opposed to two days to vote, perhaps a Sunday and a Monday; one weekday and one weekend day, but all we have done is INCREASE the possibility of errors rather than prevent them. By the way, when I was young it was not "easy" to get permission to vote before election day. While there have always been, and always will be, people who are out of the country, in the hospital, etc. etc. but in the past people took into consideration trying NOT to schedule things on election day if possible. It seems it mean more to people "back then" than it does today (?)

OhioBuckeye 11-07-2022 08:45 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
Did I vote, definitely!

charlieo1126@gmail.com 11-07-2022 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2154789)
What a horrible idea!!

In the United States of America, our ancestors had to fight for their independence, and we really cherish our freedoms. We don't accept leaders who want to boss us around.

Maybe countries that did not have to fight for their independence accept authoritarian leaders, but not Americans.

hmmm the Australians have been on our side through all our wars including Korea and Vietnam war where I lost a brave good man who died in Laos , they also suffered high casualty rates in both world wars, authoritive I think not ,probably more of a democracy then us

Bill14564 11-07-2022 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2155370)
I could not agree more. How and Why we (the people) ever started all this in the name of "fairness", "inclusion" is beyond my understanding. It has NOT "improved" access or insured accuracy, if anything, has greatly expanded the possibility of errors, "lost" ballots, "unauthorized" individuals and/or vehicles transporting ballots, just an endless list of circumstances for incorrect counts. When I was young election DAY was just that, the DAY an election was held. The hours were long, before sunrise to after sunset, to accommodate working people who worked any shift. If anyone had a problem, it was EXPECTED and in some places REQUIRED, the an employer give an employee permission to leave a few minutes early, or arrive a few minutes late, without penalty, to support voting. The votes were counted that night. My parents both worked at elections. I always had to stay with my grandparents, or at the home of friends, because they worked the entire night counting, and recounting to make sure there were no errors. I would not be opposed to two days to vote, perhaps a Sunday and a Monday; one weekday and one weekend day, but all we have done is INCREASE the possibility of errors rather than prevent them. By the way, when I was young it was not "easy" to get permission to vote before election day. While there have always been, and always will be, people who are out of the country, in the hospital, etc. etc. but in the past people took into consideration trying NOT to schedule things on election day if possible. It seems it mean more to people "back then" than it does today (?)

I would argue that it means more to people today than it did back then and that's why additional resources are required.

When you were young about 70M people cast votes in the presidential election or about 40% of the population. In 2020, about 150M cast votes or about 50% of the population.

If we were to allow voting on only one day, what would you double from the time that you were young to enable everyone to vote? Would you have your parents work through two days counting and recounting? Would you have the voting locations open twice as many hours with twice the lines? Would you hire twice as many people and buy twice as much equipment in order to have twice as many locations?

Early voting eases the election-day numbers and allows more people access to a voting booth. The machines are just as secure the week before election day as they are on election day. The same process is used the week before election day as on election day. The only difference is the number on the calendar and the length of the lines.

Remember that there has been no evidence provided for most of the claims of "lost" ballots and the rest of the conspiracies. As far as "unauthorized" individuals transporting ballots - how many of those were technical violations made by well-meaning individuals? If I offered to take my neighbor's ballot to the drop box then technically that is a violation. There may have been some problems (five (?) Villagers voting twice, 20 released felons encouraged by the State to vote and then arrested) the magnitude of any proven problems was much to small to have an impact on the final results of the election.

The biggest problem with early voting is the possibility of learning something that would change your vote after you have already voted. That is a concern but to me it's less of a concern than disenfranchising voters with long lines.

Aloha1 11-07-2022 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2154531)
A MUCH better solution would be to REQUIRE voting as the Australians do. In Australia, if you DON'T vote, you must pay a penalty in your yearly Federal tax form. So, I understand that they get close to 100% election participation. Now, that IS a country and a system that I could be proud of. That's a no-nonsense country!

I prefer a system where the voters must show knowledge of what the election is for before they are allowed to cast a vote.

mikeycereal 11-07-2022 12:18 PM

Lurkers: probably checking that you have one ballot and aren't voting 2x maybe? Maybe doing their job... I'm going in tomorrow and if anyone lurks near me I'll just hold it up and smile with thumb up. I really don't care other than checking who I want and putting it in the box.

jebartle 11-07-2022 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2154426)
I would absolutely trust the postal system to deliver the envelope with $100 back to me. I would be less trusting of the people working in the system who might recognize the content as a $100 bill.

I would absolutely trust the postal system to deliver the envelop with a mail-in ballot. I would also trust that the people working in the system couldn't care less about a mail-in ballot.

Hmmmm! I mailed a Rolex, pretty sure postal worker who was arrested at post office on historic side pawned it, so no, I don't trust post office.

Bill14564 11-07-2022 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2154426)
I would absolutely trust the postal system to deliver the envelope with $100 back to me. I would be less trusting of the people working in the system who might recognize the content as a $100 bill.

I would absolutely trust the postal system to deliver the envelop with a mail-in ballot. I would also trust that the people working in the system couldn't care less about a mail-in ballot.

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Originally Posted by jebartle (Post 2155643)
Hmmmm! I mailed a Rolex, pretty sure postal worker who was arrested at post office on historic side pawned it, so no, I don't trust post office.

A $100 bill they could recognize and put in their pocket. A Rolex they could recognize and pawn. A mail-in ballot they could recognize and...?

I'm Popeye! 11-07-2022 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2155480)
I would argue that it means more to people today than it did back then and that's why additional resources are required.

When you were young about 70M people cast votes in the presidential election or about 40% of the population. In 2020, about 150M cast votes or about 50% of the population.

Let's say, in those days they didn't offer us BS, college tuition paid or that our Medicare and social security are in jeopardy if we vote for the other guy.

mikeycereal 11-08-2022 12:35 PM

Voted today; no one looked over my shoulder at my little booth at Marsh. Wasn't too crowded, and everything went fine. Don't know where the paranoia comes from but everyone in the room was super nice. I was joking with them when they handed me the big ballot cover/folder. "Are these the answers?" They probably heard better one-liners. :duck:

Byte1 11-08-2022 12:52 PM

I remember when you only had one day(election day) to vote. The lines were infinite and you could be standing in bad weather for many hours, perhaps all morning or afternoon. When you have a spouse that cannot stand for long periods, early voting is nice. It is really nice when you can walk in and have no line or a small waiting line. I also like the paper ballot because I know that there is a record that a machine won't be able to "mistakenly" mess up. You won't hit a button for one candidate and end up voting for another. It may not happen often, but since it does happen, the paper ballot is nice insurance.

Whitley 11-08-2022 12:55 PM

Is anyone else getting this ad on their TOTV site?
It is a phot of an attractive young woman, low cut shirt, with the caption "Do you dare?". I am trying to figure out what it is advertising. Do I dare? Curious but not curious enough where I risk having Ukranian bride ads on netflix while we watch TV.
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Whitley 11-08-2022 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2155903)
I remember when you only had one day(election day) to vote. The lines were infinite and you could be standing in bad weather for many hours, perhaps all morning or afternoon. When you have a spouse that cannot stand for long periods, early voting is nice. It is really nice when you can walk in and have no line or a small waiting line. I also like the paper ballot because I know that there is a record that a machine won't be able to "mistakenly" mess up. You won't hit a button for one candidate and end up voting for another. It may not happen often, but since it does happen, the paper ballot is nice insurance.

I agree, it is nice. This is especially true as we did not get off for election day. I think a week is more than enough time however.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 11-08-2022 02:43 PM

Voted today no line at 1 pm , I come from a long line of Boston Irish Catholics who would think it’s a sin not to vote on Election Day.


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