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laryb 07-19-2011 12:12 PM

[QUOTE=Uptown Girl;372362]We haven't been in TV long, so my experience is from prior homes I've lived in..
One product I have used is called Glass Wax (Glass and metal cleaner). Comes in a thin rectangular can and it is a semi-thin pink liquid with a strong chemical smell. You apply it with a damp sponge, let dry and then wipe off with a soft cloth.
I have used it on shower doors, glass and chrome. It seems to dissolve everything, leaves a nice shine and has a water-repellant property as well.


My mom used Glass Wax when I was a kid, and I haven't seen it in years. Remember stenciling the windows with it at Halloween. Googled it and could not find a place to buy it. If you don't mind, where did you find it?

rubicon 07-19-2011 02:06 PM

My preference is hardwood floors. We had maple hardwood floors that ran from our foyer through our kitchen and downstair bathroom up north. The only problem with hardwood in a kitchen are the nicks and dents caused by dropping canned goods. etc.

We have had a home with tile which also ran through our foyer kitchen and downstair bath that held up well.

we like carpet because of the warmth quiet but no matter the quality or color you eventual end up with with routine cleaning due to heavy graffic areas.

We have all tile in our home in TV except our bedrooms where we have carpet. We have considered tile/hardwood for the bedrooms . I want tile because I am not so sure how hardwood will hold up in Florida. My wife wants hardwood.

Echoing is a problem here with too many floors tiled but rugs do help.

As for cleaning...cleaning is cleaning

bottom line for villages living I prefer tile

senior citizen 07-19-2011 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 372476)
My preference is hardwood floors. We had maple hardwood floors that ran from our foyer through our kitchen and downstair bathroom up north. The only problem with hardwood in a kitchen are the nicks and dents caused by dropping canned goods. etc.

We have had a home with tile which also ran through our foyer kitchen and downstair bath that held up well.

we like carpet because of the warmth quiet but no matter the quality or color you eventual end up with with routine cleaning due to heavy graffic areas.

We have all tile in our home in TV except our bedrooms where we have carpet. We have considered tile/hardwood for the bedrooms . I want tile because I am not so sure how hardwood will hold up in Florida. My wife wants hardwood.

Echoing is a problem here with too many floors tiled but rugs do help.

As for cleaning...cleaning is cleaning

bottom line for villages living I prefer tile

Tile is exactly what my husband would like in entire house.
It's good to hear everyone's different viewpoint. Thanks....

rubicon 07-19-2011 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 372477)
Tile is exactly what my husband would like in entire house.
It's good to hear everyone's different viewpoint. Thanks....

Your husband has good taste:D

GeorgeT 07-19-2011 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 372440)
I’m a bit confused by all the posts here claiming the installation of real hardwood floors. My understanding is that real hardwood flooring is problematic for the average home in Florida.

First of all, hardwood flooring is normally designed to be nailed into the plywood sub-flooring that is the norm up north in homes with basements. So to overcome that, a typical Florida home with a slab foundation needs a ¾” plywood subfloor installed first. This introduces installation issues in an existing home in order to allow molding and doors to have sufficient clearance once the hardwood is added on top of the plywood base. That adds significantly to the cost of the installation.

Secondly, is the moisture issue in humid Florida. To overcome this, several layers of moisture barring products must be sandwiched between the cement slab, and the sub-floor adding additional cost.

Would any of you care to explain how your hardwood floors were installed here in TV?

I'd be interested in hearing that too. I wonder if some of the hardwood posters actually have laminate.

Shimpy 07-19-2011 04:01 PM

I've never had hardwood except when a kid, and we eventually covered that with carpet. BUT, I've had lots of experience with tile. It looks good, but is a pain. Grout gets dirty in traffic areas, and drop something on it and it chips. We had a pool and when walking in from the pool area with wet feet to use a bathroom the tile was like walking on ice. I was always afraid somebody would fall.

senior citizen 07-19-2011 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 372504)
I've never had hardwood except when a kid, and we eventually covered that with carpet. BUT, I've had lots of experience with tile. It looks good, but is a pain. Grout gets dirty in traffic areas, and drop something on it and it chips. We had a pool and when walking in from the pool area with wet feet to use a bathroom the tile was like walking on ice. I was always afraid somebody would fall.

Yes, tile is very slippery....at least up here. If one's feet are wet from snow or ice and walk from the deck into the kitchen via the atrium doors, you can slip and fall if not super careful. Ditto for getting out of tub or shower without a bath carpet to step onto. Good cautionary tale.

senior citizen 07-19-2011 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdVinMass (Post 372440)
I’m a bit confused by all the posts here claiming the installation of real hardwood floors. My understanding is that real hardwood flooring is problematic for the average home in Florida.

First of all, hardwood flooring is normally designed to be nailed into the plywood sub-flooring that is the norm up north in homes with basements. So to overcome that, a typical Florida home with a slab foundation needs a ¾” plywood subfloor installed first. This introduces installation issues in an existing home in order to allow molding and doors to have sufficient clearance once the hardwood is added on top of the plywood base. That adds significantly to the cost of the installation.

Secondly, is the moisture issue in humid Florida. To overcome this, several layers of moisture barring products must be sandwiched between the cement slab, and the sub-floor adding additional cost.

Would any of you care to explain how your hardwood floors were installed here in TV?

The hard wood floors you describe we had in all our earlier homes in Vermont, with basements.

My question: What is a floating wood floor?

WE have a room in Vermont that is on a cement slab.........our carpenter told us that he could install "floating wood floors" right on the cement?

Would that be laminate floor? That would be a layer of wood over some man made composite board beneath it????? I'd also like to hear how they put the wood floors onto the cement in Florida.

This particular room is the cellar, so no basement below it.....it's a daylight basement....half in the ground.......due to sloping of the hilly property. It's presently carpeted.

laryb 07-19-2011 04:57 PM

Was told about this product during a recent visit to Lumber Liquidators. You can use standard tongue and groove hard wood over this. You would glue the seams together, and the gripping quality of the underlayment keeps the flooring still. That would be a floating hardwood floor.
http://www.lumberliquidators.com/cat...&nonFlooring=1

senior citizen 07-19-2011 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laryb (Post 372517)
Was told about this product during a recent visit to Lumber Liquidators. You can use standard tongue and groove hard wood over this. You would glue the seams together, and the gripping quality of the underlayment keeps the flooring still. That would be a floating hardwood floor.
http://www.lumberliquidators.com/cat...&nonFlooring=1

Thankyou for the link. That must be what our carpenter was talking about.
I believe our next door friends and neighbors did the same thing with a cherry wood "floating wood floor". They told me they couldn't walk on it or put furniture on it for three days??? The reason so many of our tri level homes up here have cement slabs is that they couldn't dig for cellars due to the ledge....and lots of boulders under the ground..........at the time, dynamiting was not allowed.........although some homes above us did have their basements dynamited. Vermont has very rocky soil with a lot of ledge.
Everything on this road is sloping.......either high up in the back....very hilly...or on the other side of the street, sloping downward in the back.
Hard to explain. So.......the homes are built "into the hill".....this one happens to be a tri level with hilly front lawn and hilly back yard and side yards.............now I know what a floating wood floor is. Thankyou.

laryb 07-19-2011 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 372519)
Thankyou for the link. That must be what our carpenter was talking about.
I believe our next door friends and neighbors did the same thing with a cherry wood "floating wood floor". They told me they couldn't walk on it or put furniture on it for three days??? The reason so many of our tri level homes up here have cement slabs is that they couldn't dig for cellars due to the ledge....and lots of boulders under the ground..........at the time, dynamiting was not allowed.........although some homes above us did have their basements dynamited. Vermont has very rocky soil with a lot of ledge.
Everything on this road is sloping.......either high up in the back....very hilly...or on the other side of the street, sloping downward in the back.
Hard to explain. So.......the homes are built "into the hill".....this one happens to be a tri level with hilly front lawn and hilly back yard and side yards.............now I know what a floating wood floor is. Thankyou.

A floating floor can also include laminate and engineered floors. Personally, I like the engineered floors with their real wood surface and their man made backing. Here's one we liked:
http://www.lumberliquidators.com/cat...productId=5594

Uptown Girl 07-19-2011 05:59 PM

a P.S. about Glass Wax
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 372368)
Sounds great. Thanks....I just wrote it down for our next shopping trip.

P.S.
In talking to a friend today, I was told they sold the formula to another company a few years ago (my, but my can has lasted a long time!) and it is now known as "No Streek Glass Wax". It is sold in a plastic bottle and is yellow, but otherwise is the same formula. My friend ordered it online, but says that some Ace Hardware stores carry it.
Just thought I'd add this, so you don't drive yourself crazy trying to find it!

angiefox10 07-19-2011 06:40 PM

Looked on lineSub-Total
 
I'll wait till I can buy it at the store....

They want 7.50 to ship it!!!! :D

Villager Since April 2009 07-19-2011 07:51 PM

Tile floors with no grout problem
 
In my kitchen, bathrooms, and utility room I have squares of vinyl tile that were installed by Village Flooring. They look just like "real" tile. They installed them with rubber grout between the tiles. The grout is easy to clean and looks brand new after two years. There are many styles to choose from and it's also available in planks that resemble wood. I wish I had used these tiles in the rest of the house.

Bill-n-Brillo 07-19-2011 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 372539)
I'll wait till I can buy it at the store....

They want 7.50 to ship it!!!! :D

Available on Amazon - free shipping if your total order is over $25:

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Industries-NS-8-8OZ-Glass-Polish/dp/B000IO8GWC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311126855&sr=8-1[/ame]


Bill :)

senior citizen 07-20-2011 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laryb (Post 372525)
A floating floor can also include laminate and engineered floors. Personally, I like the engineered floors with their real wood surface and their man made backing. Here's one we liked:
http://www.lumberliquidators.com/cat...productId=5594

Very very nice indeed. Will make the room look beautiful.

Thanks for explaining how the entire flooring "system" works.

senior citizen 07-20-2011 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Villager Since April 2009 (Post 372560)
In my kitchen, bathrooms, and utility room I have squares of vinyl tile that were installed by Village Flooring. They look just like "real" tile. They installed them with rubber grout between the tiles. The grout is easy to clean and looks brand new after two years. There are many styles to choose from and it's also available in planks that resemble wood. I wish I had used these tiles in the rest of the house.

Another good option. Our daughter has them in northern Vermont and claims they are easy to maintain. Hers actually came with a two story modular Colonial home (in the bathrooms and in the mud room)....Thanks.....

senior citizen 07-20-2011 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uptown Girl (Post 372528)
P.S.
In talking to a friend today, I was told they sold the formula to another company a few years ago (my, but my can has lasted a long time!) and it is now known as "No Streek Glass Wax". It is sold in a plastic bottle and is yellow, but otherwise is the same formula. My friend ordered it online, but says that some Ace Hardware stores carry it.
Just thought I'd add this, so you don't drive yourself crazy trying to find it!


I found something similar at Amazon.com

Thanks for the update........appreciate it.

senior citizen 07-20-2011 05:52 AM

Go to Amazon.com and type in glass wax under "Home"
It will bring you to this site. It didn't copy and paste very well.....
but seemed like the same thing...mentioned the stencils, etc.

Home > Home Solutions > All Home Solutions Products > Window Glass Wax



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Regular price: $17.95

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mrdarcy 07-20-2011 06:35 AM

I had a floor of floating engineered wood installed over concrete in my basement for my mother who lived with me until she died at age 84. I used engineered wood because it has less of a tendency to buckle in humidity owing to man-made backing. I had the installer put it in as floating, as opposed to glued down, because floating is a bit more "springy". When my mom fell down on occasion she never injured herself because the floating engineered wood was resilient enough to absorb the energy of the fall. The engineered wood is about as expensive as real wood. I loved this flooring (and I loved my mom).

getdul981 07-20-2011 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 372340)
Could be you are correct about only cleaning with water.
I had been using a Swiffer with their cleaning detergent bottles.
Since I've been using strictly tap water / steam......it's much cleaner.
Unfortunately, we never had the grout sealed. Our tile guy never even mentioned it.......whereas, in N.J. our cousins sealed all their grout.

The bathroom tile does not get as soiled, except for the shower stall.
We should never have tiled the shower.....but it was in vogue at the time, a few years back. Also should never have bought glass shower doors.
Does anyone know a quick cleaning trick for the glass doors? They are beautiful etched glass with roses and vines.......but we have HARD WATER up here in Vermont and no water softener......so soap scum doesn't take long to build up. THANKS................P.S. THE BEST SHOWER FLOOR WE'VE EVER SEEN WAS LAST SUMMER IN TABERNASH COLORADO AT THE DEVILS THUMB RESORT RANCH.......ALL THE SHOWER FLOORS HAD RIVER STONES........LIKE PEBBLES TO WALK ON.....BUT VERY NICE AND NON SLIPPERY....HUGE GLASS SHOWERS.........AND SOAKING TUBS IN ALL THE ROOMS. WE HAD NEVER SEEN RIVER STONES BEFORE.........they were various shades of grey.

Lime Away

senior citizen 07-20-2011 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by getdul981 (Post 372617)
Lime Away



Will try it. Thanks....

senior citizen 07-20-2011 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrdarcy (Post 372615)
I had a floor of floating engineered wood installed over concrete in my basement for my mother who lived with me until she died at age 84. I used engineered wood because it has less of a tendency to buckle in humidity owing to man-made backing. I had the installer put it in as floating, as opposed to glued down, because floating is a bit more "springy". When my mom fell down on occasion she never injured herself because the floating engineered wood was resilient enough to absorb the energy of the fall. The engineered wood is about as expensive as real wood. I loved this flooring (and I loved my mom).

Good to know. I totally now understand what my carpenter meant by floating wood floor....thanks to all of you.

Also, that was very considerate of you to be so understanding of your elderly mom's frailities with the falling, etc.

Been there, done that for my own mom, who passed at age 91.

senior citizen 07-20-2011 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uptown Girl (Post 372528)
P.S.
In talking to a friend today, I was told they sold the formula to another company a few years ago (my, but my can has lasted a long time!) and it is now known as "No Streek Glass Wax". It is sold in a plastic bottle and is yellow, but otherwise is the same formula. My friend ordered it online, but says that some Ace Hardware stores carry it.
Just thought I'd add this, so you don't drive yourself crazy trying to find it!

I always look first on Amazon.com.......as our hardware stores are limited here in town. Thank you!!!!!!!!!

senior citizen 07-20-2011 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 372539)
I'll wait till I can buy it at the store....

They want 7.50 to ship it!!!! :D

If you find certain things at amazon.com.......you can get free super saver shipping.
Unless you want it overnight or the next day.

Dgreenbucks 07-20-2011 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cappyjon431 (Post 372096)
My wife and I have always preferred tile, primarily for ease of maintenance. We currently have a beautiful hardwood floor, it looks great when it is swept and mopped, but the dark floor combined with our white haired dog makes upkeep very difficult.

We are closing on a resale home next month and while the current owner has just put in brand new caprpeting, my wife decided it has to go so she has already made arrangements to have tile installed post-closing and prior to the moving truck's arrival.

As an aside (and not meaning to hijack this thread), does anyone know who we can donate the to once we have it removed? My immediate thought is Habitat For Hummanity, but I wasn't sure if they had a Habitat group near TV

Yes, TV has Habitat, or you might consider binding it for rugs. They do binding at the Marion Flea Market.

caseylou5 07-20-2011 05:25 PM

My choice would be hardwood in all rooms except the bathroom. I now have rugs and vinyl and do not like it at all.

When I can i will replace the rugs in the kitche, LR and DR with hardwood. I don't mind the rugs in the bedrooms.

caseylou5 07-20-2011 05:26 PM

Very nice!

justanormalgirl 07-20-2011 09:39 PM

We currently have 3/4" thick solid oak hardwood floors in the entire house except for marble tile in both bathrooms. We have a 10 by 12 area rug in the living room and smaller rugs where they are needed. I like carpet but we have 3 little dogs and it seems that, no matter what quality carpet/pad you buy nowdays, it wears out so quick that it needs replaced way too often. With Oak floors I can redecorate simply by getting new rugs!

senior citizen 07-21-2011 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justanormalgirl (Post 372913)
We currently have 3/4" thick solid oak hardwood floors in the entire house except for marble tile in both bathrooms. We have a 10 by 12 area rug in the living room and smaller rugs where they are needed. I like carpet but we have 3 little dogs and it seems that, no matter what quality carpet/pad you buy nowdays, it wears out so quick that it needs replaced way too often. With Oak floors I can redecorate simply by getting new rugs!

The area rugs make sense as an option.....along with the oak floors which certainly must be beautiful. We were just discussing , ourselves, getting area rugs if and when we install the floating wood floors. Actually saw a segment last evening on HGTV on Direct TV where they installed the floating wood floors in a basement apartment which a home owner in Canada was converting to income property..........turned out beautifully and cut her mortgage payment in half.

Thanks to everyone for all the wonderful flooring ideas, options and their own favorites.......appreciate it.

justanormalgirl 07-21-2011 08:51 AM

Is there a reason why you would use/choose a floating floor over real wood? Does it make a difference in the Florida climate? We had a floating floor in one of our homes and we hated it for sooo many reasons!

1. It was hard to keep clean and you had to dry it after mopping or it would streak.
2. The floors were cold.
3. They were noisy, every sound was magnified.

Although, the floors in that house weren't level so the 'floating' floor did help with that :)

When we bought this home we had all of the carpet removed and had real, solid oak floors installed. We love them! When we got the area rug we went to the carpet store and bought a piece of the soft back carpet (not foam back and not traditional jute back) and had it bound. With the soft back carpet/rugs you don't need a pad under an area rug, the soft back is made for use over hardwood.

senior citizen 07-21-2011 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justanormalgirl (Post 373006)
Is there a reason why you would use/choose a floating floor over real wood? Does it make a difference in the Florida climate? We had a floating floor in one of our homes and we hated it for sooo many reasons!

1. It was hard to keep clean and you had to dry it after mopping or it would streak.
2. The floors were cold.
3. They were noisy, every sound was magnified.

Although, the floors in that house weren't level so the 'floating' floor did help with that :)

When we bought this home we had all of the carpet removed and had real, solid oak floors installed. We love them! When we got the area rug we went to the carpet store and bought a piece of the soft back carpet (not foam back and not traditional jute back) and had it bound. With the soft back carpet/rugs you don't need a pad under an area rug, the soft back is made for use over hardwood.

No no no.....we haven't even purchased a home in TV yet. If you read the earlier threads, I was asking about the pros and cons of various type wood flooring and if they install it in a newly purchased TV home, etc.

In other words, do the "packages" have options as to flooring.

I mentioned that our carpenter, here in VERMONT, had suggested putting a floating wood floor down for us.........we have a tri level and in this lower level which is a daylight basement (house is built to accomodate the hillside).

They couldn't dynamite out a cellar hole as there is so much boulder and ledge under the earth up here........so they put down cement slabs.

Our carpenter who is also a home builder, tile installer, etc........suggested a floating wood floor.........which we recently finally did see and understand the 'soft layer" put beneath right onto the cement /concrete.....then the wood or laminate...whichever someone chose.....is put down WITH NO NAILS.

It doesn't raise the floor as much as if we had wood put down and the new floor nailed to the wood.

Supposedly, it's also softer and "gives a little" and is good for humid places such as basements or Florida homes which are built on a slab with no cellar beneath.............we aren't doing anything yet.

Our home is carpeted and tiled (tiled in kitchen and 3 bathrooms), carpeted in living room, dining room, three bedrooms, family room......two stairwells and three hallways.....foyer.

Foyer is a long story.....it's a 20 foot foyer and very nice.......tile would have been perfect.......but we moved back here from our condo on the beach in Venice, Florida where I had tiled not only the foyer, the kitchen, the bathrooms, and the two balconies, one facing the beach and sand.......the other facing the esplanade and waterway in the front............so coming back here after 4 months, with my mom with Alzheimers, my hubby and I just carpeted the entire house......I was all decorated out.

We had other concerns such as my mom's "wandering", confusion, etc.

The Venice tile was beautiful....we did it like a small chapel we saw in Nokomis, Florida.......pale grey and rose colored slate on the balconies and a pale peach in the kitchen and bathrooms......beige berber in the living room and bedrooms............we actually moved back to Vermont with all our Florida furniture...........16 years ago. Our adult kids wish we'd tear out all our carpeting and replace with wood floors !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wood is "in"....for sure.


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