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Laurawilcox 04-22-2025 06:26 AM

We had ours built by T and D during the house construction. Wanted to move in and be done. They also have an obligation to the developer to have it finished to close the home. Couldn’t imagine watching construction and our side and bark yard being ripped up for however long when this was already an option. We also have dogs and knew they would be going nuts during the process. They did an excellent job and have been very supportive with any issues under our three year warranty. We use it regularly, often in the evenings as we work, at 89 degrees with solar and gas heat. Things we couldn’t do with The Villages pools. It is expensive though we maintain our own, but feel we are getting the value from it.

asianthree 04-22-2025 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by IndianaJones (Post 2426241)
We used Fiesta Pools out of Ocala - beautiful pool, quality construction & on time - they said 10 weeks, it was completed in 10 weeks. After signing the contract they started 2 weeks later. As mentioned, T&D said they were a year out. Pool is 14x24, constructed last year, price was $14k-$35k less than 3 other bids. Plus we got the exact pool we wanted with a large bird cage. I liked the idea of planning my own, picking out my own colors, etc rather than buying a pre-constructed pool.

I agree Fiesta was in forefront of our list. Design team meetings with Builder, following week 3 other bids. Went with Fiesta due to their employees are either multi gen family or have been with Fiesta for over 10 years.
Time frame 8-10weeks due to Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year. Complete in 9 weeks. Office staff is on top of everything. The customer is first priority.

Signguy 04-22-2025 06:29 AM

Do go with T&D
 
1. They do not do "FULLY" custom pools as part of new construction.
2. They only do Concrete pool deck.
3. AND they are Super-Duper expensive

At the design phase see what the largest pool you can get, and be sure it can be placed where you like. The scratch the pool from the plan, or move on to a different lot. Get a copy of the site plan and get some estimates.

I used Cody Pools and the experience was excellent.

asianthree 04-22-2025 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2426257)
Aftermarket will ALWAYS be tens of thousands cheaper. Hummmmm…

My guess is you definitely don’t have first hand experience with pool at new build, or aftermarket.

Yes there is a large difference between at build or aftermarket. Not just $40,000 difference,and less pool only offer two options. Plus a larger cost increase if you wanted the better equipment and larger dimensions that other companies quoted.

Jimmay 04-22-2025 06:34 AM

All at once, all constructed at the same time done with the mess.

PoolBrews 04-22-2025 06:52 AM

While using T&D at the time of build is the easiest choice, it's not necessarily the best. I've installed pools at all 3 of my homes over the past 40 years and maintain them myself. As an engineer, I always did a lot of research before selecting a pool builder. T&D was on my list to of builders to get quotes from when I installed here. (I bought a new home that did not come with a pool).

These were the reasons why T&D was NOT selected:

1) All of the equipment (pump, filter, heater, salt water generator (SWG)) was quoted with the minimum size. My experience has been that you want the SWG, pump, and filter designed to handle at least 2x the size of your pool (in gallons of water), and you want the biggest heater you can get for either a heat pump or gas heater. Larger heaters will heat far faster, last longer, and are more efficient.

2) They automation they quoted was out of date and had been replaced by the manufacturer with a new model 2 years prior to them trying to sell it to me. Not only was it older... they were charging more than the new automation.

3) Out of 6 builders, they were the last to get a quote in (took them 6 WEEKS just to quote), and had the longest time until they could actually start. The builder I went with gave me quote the same day they stopped by. Once permits came in, they finished my pool in 13 weeks.

4) They were the most expensive option ar nearly 50% over the builder I ended up selecting (who did quote properly sized equipment).

5) When I asked about getting properly sized equipment they couldn't believe I would question them on their selections. To upgrade to the same level as what I ended up with from my builder they tacked on another $10K.

I ended up going with Premier Pools of Central Florida out of Winter Garden. 6 years later and couldn't be happier. From the intitial sales process, through the build, and then service and support after they were fantastic. If you are interested in seeing my pool, let me know.

peacefuldb 04-22-2025 06:54 AM

pool before or after you move in
 
If you can build it while the construction is happening that is OK. Once house is built and landscaping is in...the new plants will be trashed with the pool equipment. That being said, cheaper to build it afterwards. Plus you will get into your house and get settled...do you really want one? or will you use the community pools? We used Blue Moon out of Leesburg. Couple months wait as compared to T&D. Plus it was finished in 6 months, cage and all. Good people all local with their own crews except for the concrete and screen. Remember to use 20/20 screen to keep noseeums out. We paid extra for that. Big decision I wish you luck!

LoisR 04-22-2025 07:06 AM

Use the Villages pools. Why spend over $100k and then several thousands more for heating and cleaning it plus elect.
Doesn't make sense for something you'll probably use less than half the year.

Sledneck 04-22-2025 07:33 AM

when you add a pool during new construction is it through t&d or just added to the building cost? does the added cost effect your initial taxes by raising the overall cost when they assess you? if you add a pool down the road are your taxes reassessed at after the build is complete?

Lottoguy 04-22-2025 07:38 AM

I’ve known homes that wanted a pool but their neighbors refused to allow the access on their land so the equipment could get to the backyard. Neighbors don’t want any damage done to their drainage, irrigation and landscape. Not to mention a porta potty outside their home for three or four months.

Lottoguy 04-22-2025 07:42 AM

The Villages pools are great for socializing. Your own pool can turn you into a hermit.

Justputt 04-22-2025 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by fruitcup (Post 2426148)
Hi All,

We're going to start looking for a house lot and want to be prepared for some of our decisions ahead of time. Do you recommend doing the pool with the build of the house? The Villages uses T&D, and I've heard good things about them, but I've read some posts that recommend waiting till after moving in due to the Villages pricing of pools and customizations. Any thoughts???

Thanks!

I see more unused pools than used! Also, the community pool is a great place to meet those in your neighborhood, and if you spend your time in your own pool, you'll miss that. Lastly, pools in TV regardless of who does them are expensive. IMO don't short yourself of the opportunity to meet a bunch of people at the local pool, as we have met more people there than anywhere else.

Nana2Teddy 04-22-2025 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2426225)
We bought a preowned home and had a pool built by T&D. They did a fantastic job, but it’s a very disruptive process for both the homeowners and adjacent neighbors, and the whole job takes a couple months. If you can get a pool that works for you with a new build it’s probably a good idea.

Two months??? Wouldn’t that be nice. We’ve been dealing with new pool builds on our street for the past two years, with none of them taking less than four months, though most considerably longer. Two were directly across the street with two different companies (not T&D). Now another one has just started next door to the two directly across the street (so three houses in a row) just when we thought we were finally going to have a peaceful summer, haha. We will consider it a miracle if this third build is done in 2 months, though since it’s the same company as one of the other pools we expect this neighbor to possibly be using their pool by September if they’re lucky.

Ptmcbriz 04-22-2025 08:06 AM

Our pool was built by T&D 3 years ago after our house was built. It had a small built in gas grill with fridge summer kitchen, and a 30x12 salt water heated pool. It was $175,000. Several people that have seen it recently have said it would run $200K now. It was done top notch by T&D. Took 4 months start to finish and they were there just about every day working on it. Sometimes even weekends. The good thing about building it with the house is being able to roll the costs into the mortgage if you plan on a mortgage. Otherwise, you’ll pay cash for after market build. T&D are the only ones I would use to build a pool. Too many nightmares heard around about other company’s. Our next door neighbor took a year to finish their pool due to other contractor problems. It took us a year on a list to get an appointment, then another 6 months before they could start the pool. However it was worth it.

asianthree 04-22-2025 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2426307)
The Villages pools are great for socializing. Your own pool can turn you into a hermit.

Some do need the social aspect of group pool interaction, but those with pools can invite who they choose, or have peace and quiet while reading a book.

Personally loud needless useless conversations is very annoying for some.


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