[billlaur]

Most people are not satisfied with current tables..as more people come here the standards are raised higher.
the developer does not want to hear about things can be improved alreadry been that route.all they have to do is go to another manufacturer because these current tables ply like they are seconds..
we got what we got...………..not complaining jus sayin...…………..

[Mikeod]

Except for south of 44, wouldn’t the District Recreation be responsible for upgrading the tables when it’s time to do so? Not the Developer.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by billlaur

Most people are not satisfied with current tables..as more people come here the standards are raised higher.
the developer does not want to hear about things can be improved alreadry been that route.all they have to do is go to another manufacturer because these current tables ply like they are seconds..
we got what we got...………..not complaining jus sayin...…………..

I agree. The Villages owns and maintains literally hundreds of pool tables. But, apparently, the developer has no one on their staff who has any expertise in equipment selection or maintenance, or who is responsible for customer satisfaction. I think the situation is ridiculous. I could understand it if they only had a few tables, but they have a major investment in billiard equipment, rec center space, and hundreds of serious pool players. Most pool players are not satisfied with the billiard rooms. Surely, the developer could hire someone who knows billiard equipment and could be responsible for proper equipment selection, maintenance, and management of the billiard rooms.

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by billlaur

Most people are not satisfied with current tables...

You say that so casually. I'm not sure it's that certain.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

You say that so casually. I'm not sure it's that certain.

One thing that is certain is that The Villages has a multi-million dollar investment in billiard rooms, and they have no one on staff who is an expert on managing a billiard room. If this were a business where people paid by the hour to play pool, like most billiard rooms, they would go out of business. A good manager could improve the conditions and save money at the same time. Saving a few dollars on the equipment is insignificant compared to the cost of the room itself and the furniture, countertops, pool cues, etc. which are underutilized. You have to move furniture out of the way to actually play pool. And, note that the billiard room space is totally dedicated to playing pool. Unlike other spaces in the rec center, it cannot be used for any other purpose.

[yabbadu]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

You say that so casually. I'm not sure it's that certain.

What Stats do you have to make such a statement?

[Polar Bear]

Originally Posted by yabbadu

What Stats do you have to make such a statement?

What?? I’m not the one making specific claims without facts. I simply expressed personal doubt regarding such claims.

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

My guess would be because most people are already satisfied with the billiard rooms.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

I agree with everything you said except regarding the pool tables. There are hundreds of serious pool players in The Villages, many of which are learning the game for the first time. Why shouldn't there be a process for the residents to suggest improvements in the equipment and be taken seriously by the developer? And, why isn't the developer interested in providing quality billiard equipment? The needed improvements would not cost additional money, but would greatly improve the billiard rooms. My experience is that any suggestions for improvements in the billiard rooms are almost totally ignored by the developer.

Does this mean you have contacted Recreation and requested a meeting to share your feelings? Or did you just talk to the Rec Rep. at the Recreation center? If there is no process talk to them, posting on here doesn't accomplish anything.
Further what does The Developer have to do with it anyway?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by billlaur

Most people are not satisfied with current tables..as more people come here the standards are raised higher.
the developer does not want to hear about things can be improved alreadry been that route.all they have to do is go to another manufacturer because these current tables ply like they are seconds..
we got what we got...………..not complaining jus sayin...…………..

Explain what the Developer has to do with it?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Polar Bear

I think the pool tables in TV are more than adequate for our general use.

Then we only need 9 hole golf courses then, more than adequate for general golfers

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Does this mean you have contacted Recreation and requested a meeting to share your feelings? Or did you just talk to the Rec Rep. at the Recreation center? If there is no process talk to them, posting on here doesn't accomplish anything.
Further what does The Developer have to do with it anyway?

That was done when saddlebrook was redone, wasted breath.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Does this mean you have contacted Recreation and requested a meeting to share your feelings? Or did you just talk to the Rec Rep. at the Recreation center? If there is no process talk to them, posting on here doesn't accomplish anything.
Further what does The Developer have to do with it anyway?

Over the past few years, there have been many discussions between the Recreation Department and serious billiard players, including The Villages Billiards Club. The Recreation department is not interested in improving the billiard rooms. This is common knowledge among serious billiard players. But, I just find it to be irresponsible to spend millions and millions of dollars on pool tables and billiard rooms, and not hire someone who has some expertise to manage these facilities.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

?????

Maybe I mean the Recreation Department, not the developer, but whoever is responsible, they just don't care. This is common knowledge among pool players in The Villages.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Explain what the Developer has to do with it?

Not the developer, it’s his people they put in charge, just like the did with wind screens. How about chopping few tee boxes on each hole on the golf course save money on upkeep. That’s what the did to other sports. When I came here that was standard of excellence, now they cheapened the place. One day it will effect the golf course, just wait.

Good example on tennis court where I play on, groups complained about torn fencing and no gate on other side. They replaced fence that was like new in middle and put no gate in. That fence didn’t need to be replaced. But, they can say look what we done. Another example is when the 6 foot wind screen zip ties break and the wind screen flapping in the wind, they can’t even come out and tie it up. They could at least put some zip ties in the equipment room so some of use the give a ____ could tie it back up, bit no we have to buy zips ties to keep the wind screen from interference of play. You don’t see that on the golf course do you, cause kept up.