Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1160663)

As well as blind. Those born before 1950 have seen the American dream come to full fruition in their lifetime and have ridden the wave all the way to retirement concluding with a well funded defined benefit plan, enormous home equity, corporate & public funded medical benefits AND these very same people were able to sock away a tidy savings WITHOUT needing to have their spouse work outside the home so they could raise their children the proper way instead of having to pay strangers to do it for them. Save me the I grew up poor in the depression speech, heard it a thousand times. Try raising a young family with your spouse HAVING to work because you're spending more then half of your monthly income on a high interest mortgage and high taxes because real estate prices more then quadrupled within a 15 year span driven by the baby boomer housing rush. I feel very fortunate to have bought my first house when I was 25 years old. Today young families are lucky just to be able to afford a house and if they do its not until they are in their thirties or forties. Today young people can expect to change jobs more then 7 times, yesteryear's generation stayed on with just one. Today's employers offer no pension, low wages and marginal medical with the employee having to pay half the cost AND not covering the spouse. May I add these ARE college graduates burdened with enormous student loan debt. Those needing day care for their children are consuming 20% of their take home income doing so. This new generation has a very bleak retirement future indeed because they know they won't be able to.
If people WANT to tip, let them and don't put them down for wanting to. If they want to think of themselves as silent hero's, let them, it's their prerogative to do so.

Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1160676)

My last word on "tipping"---just let your conscience be your guide and be thankful to be an American!

Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1160663)

As well as blind. Those born before 1950 have seen the American dream come to full fruition in their lifetime and have ridden the wave all the way to retirement concluding with a well funded defined benefit plan, enormous home equity, corporate & public funded medical benefits AND these very same people were able to sock away a tidy savings WITHOUT needing to have their spouse work outside the home so they could raise their children the proper way instead of having to pay strangers to do it for them. Save me the I grew up poor in the depression speech, heard it a thousand times. Try raising a young family with your spouse HAVING to work because you're spending more then half of your monthly income on a high interest mortgage and high taxes because real estate prices more then quadrupled within a 15 year span driven by the baby boomer housing rush. I feel very fortunate to have bought my first house when I was 25 years old. Today young families are lucky just to be able to afford a house and if they do its not until they are in their thirties or forties. Today young people can expect to change jobs more then 7 times, yesteryear's generation stayed on with just one. Today's employers offer no pension, low wages and marginal medical with the employee having to pay half the cost AND not covering the spouse. May I add these ARE college graduates burdened with enormous student loan debt. Those needing day care for their children are consuming 20% of their take home income doing so. This new generation has a very bleak retirement future indeed because they know they won't be able to.
If people WANT to tip, let them and don't put them down for wanting to. If they want to think of themselves as silent hero's, let them, it's their prerogative to do so.

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1160799)

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1160805)

I think it is an ideological debate. I think it goes further than the surface. I think that many of us really DON'T know others on this forum well enough to judge whether they are right or wrong in their values, and who can judge another's values anyway.


I don't want to outlive my money. I could do with very little and still be happy. Most of us are like that. I know one thing. No one I know has stolen or connived or cheated to get the money they have. We have not harmed others to get where we are. Many of us have children and grandchildren who are heading in the right direction and that we can take a little credit for. If we take care of our own, that is the first responsibility we have. Teach them and turn them loose unless they are disabled.


Our lives teach us many lessons, and bragging about the good we do is usually not something that others admire.


Some of us are very good at reading between the lines in life and on this forum. We know who are decent folks and who are bull ****ters.

Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1160505)

Really? You don't think the drugs that are at the drug store come by truck on I75?

Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 1160675)

Good points!

And, I might add, how is a minimum wage worker receiving a tip for "doing their job" any different from the hefty company bonuses that many of you used to receive for "doing your job?"

Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 1160834)

Well the bonus was paid by the employer - not the customer - and only in the good years. The difficult years yielded no bonus. Apples and oranges.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1160805)

I think it is an ideological debate. I think it goes further than the surface. I think that many of us really DON'T know others on this forum well enough to judge whether they are right or wrong in their values, and who can judge another's values anyway.


I don't want to outlive my money. I could do with very little and still be happy. Most of us are like that. I know one thing. No one I know has stolen or connived or cheated to get the money they have. We have not harmed others to get where we are. Many of us have children and grandchildren who are heading in the right direction and that we can take a little credit for. If we take care of our own, that is the first responsibility we have. Teach them and turn them loose unless they are disabled.


Our lives teach us many lessons, and bragging about the good we do is usually not something that others admire.


Some of us are very good at reading between the lines in life and on this forum. We know who are decent folks and who are bull ****ters.

Originally Posted by Diver (Post 1160821)

Most of the people who are service workers in the Villages are paid only $9 to $10 per hour. I am working two jobs,one of which is cleaning a rec center. I don't expeict to be tipped, but I would not say no to anyone who did. We are Villages homeowners and are just paying our bills.