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graciegirl 04-02-2012 09:56 AM

In my VERY humble opinion.
 
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Originally Posted by looneycat (Post 474457)
if the topic was one that would help seniors with health care why was its' basic 'concept' how to bar certain people from receiving medical care? As a 'concept' to improve medical care it would suggest ways to bar people from a medical practice. mull that over a bit...oh and please excuse me for answering an off topic post!
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Looney. A forum is a place to talk about things. To type about things.

We can choose venting or presenting arguments. We may try to see where someone is coming from and what point they are trying to make and to think of a way to phrase the way we think so as to change minds.

We can state how we look at things. We can differ, we can agree and we can disagree. We may try to keep an open mind. We should try not to be impatient. May be a good idea to try to use words in such a way as to teach, not anger. Probably do better to say what we think without disrespecting another's views by name calling.

Some of us can do all that better than others.

PTurner and Bill of Bill-n-Brillo always manage to say it nice, say it smart, say it funny, say it respectfully. I yearn to be just like them.
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That is just what I think. I like and listen to plenty of folks who don't agree with that or anything I think.

Villages PL 04-02-2012 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudder (Post 473543)
villagerPL, just curious, do you do Yoga? You strike me as someone who would be a participant. I do Yoga several times a week and gain much from it.

I don't do Yoga. I never got interested in it but I suppose it can be a good thing. I like to walk and I do some weight lifting. I have a gym membership. What's the benifit from doing Yoga? Is it to be relaxed and more physically fit?

Villages PL 04-02-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 473674)
Where does the determination of Personal Responsibility begin? How do we deal with the following issues in rationing health care?

I'm not for rationing health care. My suggestion was for the Villages Health Centers only. Being that the USF/Villages health alliance is an experimental project, I thought it would be interesting and informative to add the concept of a certain level responsibility on the part of patients. The doctors will be putting in their best effort, hopefully. So, I wonder what extra effort we will be willing to bring to the table. Should we expect the doctors to do it all?

Will we be saying the following to these doctors? "Here I am doc, I'm overweight because I eat too much of the wrong foods. As a result, I have high blood pressure and high cholesterol etc.. Now fix me. Give me some medications to cover up my symptoms." Is that a good doctor/patient relationship where the doctor is expected to do it all?

I chose weight because it's something that can be easily tested. The doctors themselves could decide on something else.

looneycat 04-02-2012 01:47 PM

so now I'm really intrigued..
 
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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 474487)
I'm not for rationing health care. My suggestion was for the Villages Health Centers only. Being that the USF/Villages health alliance is an experimental project, I thought it would be interesting and informative to add the concept of a certain level responsibility on the part of patients. The doctors will be putting in their best effort, hopefully. So, I wonder what extra effort we will be willing to bring to the table. Should we expect the doctors to do it all?

Will we be saying the following to these doctors? "Here I am doc, I'm overweight because I eat too much of the wrong foods. As a result, I have high blood pressure and high cholesterol etc.. Now fix me. Give me some medication to cover up my symptoms." Is that a good doctor/patient relationship where the doctor is expected to do it all?

I chose weight because it's something that can be easily tested. The doctors themselves could decide on something else.

so after I am 'accepted' by marcus welby and co., do I have to step on the ole BMI scale before entering so that when I slip over the limit it goes 'BEEP' and locks me out because I have been irresponsible? it is so easy to test. oh and would it beep if I fell to 10% because now I'm possibly at risk of as many problems as if I were over?

looneycat 04-02-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 474463)
Looney. A forum is a place to talk about things. To type about things.

We can choose venting or presenting arguments. We may try to see where someone is coming from and what point they are trying to make and to think of a way to phrase the way we think so as to change minds.

We can state how we look at things. We can differ, we can agree and we can disagree. We may try to keep an open mind. We should try not to be impatient. May be a good idea to try to use words in such a way as to teach, not anger. Probably do better to say what we think without disrespecting another's views by name calling.

Some of us can do all that better than others.

PTurner and Bill of Bill-n-Brillo always manage to say it nice, say it smart, say it funny, say it respectfully. I yearn to be just like them.
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That is just what I think. I like and listen to plenty of folks who don't agree with that or anything I think.

again , an off topic post, but I mean that in the nicest way! :bowdown:

graciegirl 04-02-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by looneycat (Post 474549)
again , an off topic post, but I mean that in the nicest way! :bowdown:

Boy Howdy. ;)

Villages PL 04-02-2012 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RichieLion (Post 473609)
The self righteous elitist always make me a bit ill.

Be careful, RichieLion, this is an elitist town. Villagers are generally the best at everything. We are the friendliest, healthiest(?), best educated and wealthiest hometown. We even have a Mensa club and an elite political board.

looneycat 04-02-2012 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Villages PL (Post 474609)
Be careful RichieLion, this is an elitist town. Villagers are generally the best at everything. We are the friendliest, healthiest(?), best educated and wealthiest hometown. We even have a Mensa club and an elite political board.

that's kind of a unexpected hoot! I quit MENSA when I was 22 because I found them to be elitist snobs in the NY area!


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