No, it is the CDDs that bills you. NSCUDD is the provider. Let's not play a game of semantics.

I’m afraid the only difference, even though I applaud the attempt, is the ocean will be filled with glass shards and glass debris. Too many lazy people out there. The only way to manage glass is a healthy deposit on it.

What was old is new again
 

I recall about 1959 all bottles were glass. The small ones had a deposit of .02 and the big ones (like the one liter sodas we often buy) were a nickle. Inflation etc that was serious money.

Here in the Villages, I think we have more than one trash collecting company. Ours is waste management. I recall, when we first moved in calling their company the lady I spoke to was very pleasant. I truly wonder and asked her why we BUY paper bags to throw out garden waste and plastic bags to throw out mostly paper and food waste. We both had a good laugh. Imagine if we as I always did in the past, got cardboard boxes that the grocery etc pay to get rid of and filled them with your garden waste-both can be composted. Heck some people are real fans of MELORGANITE. It is minnesota SEWAGE. SELLING their processed POOP all over the United States.

Any info on the meeting this AM?

Re: China not taking our cardboard
 

Like most international issues it is usually governments and SPUN facts. I recall a documentary on this issue about a year ago.
It seems so many Americans buy Pizza to go and those cardboard boxes due to cooking oil contaminate piles of what is no longer easy to recycle. Burning fuel to ship relatively low value waste cardboard to China so they can recycle it and ship stuff back to us like many things strikes me as insanity.

In the real world the US is taking in nuclear waste from other countries and paying the cost to store it.
As to plastic-several companies are creating wood substitutes from plastic trash. If, you have carpeting and read the information, both the pile and the padding below is largely recycled stuff. Plastic and glass are mixed with road material and we not only get rid of the waste but the road lasts longer.
Aldis, a German owned firm offers no bags. You bring your own an or use boxes that they do not have to pay to dispose of. Savealot does the same thing.

I so agree with this. We need to produce less waste packaging, not focus on trying to chase dwindling recycle markets. I recently saw oranges in a grocery store that were wrapped in clear plastic film. WHY?

But perhaps the developer could contract with a company that supplies trash cans and has the robot arm to pick them up.


When we rented one winter in the Low Country--Beaufort, SC--they had this type of trash pickup. What we learned from a neighbor was if it couldn't fit in the trash can and the lid be closed, they wouldn't take it. It's much more strict. On the plus side... in TV they will take just about anything, inside the bag or out. You could put your mother-in-law out there in a chair and they would take her.

What does the container or new trucks have to do with the possible elimination of recycling because there is no place that will accept the contents?

I think the issue was having to put recycles in plastic bags as opposed to in cans, and it got sidetracked further into trash pickup.


The way things go on these threads...

Do they take ex wives as well? :icon_wink:

Sorry, but when done properly, compost NEVER smells!
Heat, mostly from the sun, is exactly what is necessary to compost.
In all the many years I have composted, I have never had rats.

Most food scraps are a no-no as is manure. And where would you get manure anyway???
Plus, it would be pretty difficult for a critter to get into most compost bins designed for home use.

I think you have to call first.:duck:

Yep...:agree:

Bingo!!!

City of Wildwood uses a company with the arms as other have talked about. 1 blue can for garbage and 1 green can for recycles. Picked up once a week. If you have yard waste it can either go in the green can and or the big brown bags. My Daughters pickup is once a week for both cans and any brown bags. Bigger items you must call ahead for pickup. Those cans are provided by the Trash company I do believe because when she moved in the cans were already at the hose with the instructions printed on top. Perhaps IF we had a different trash hauler in TV we'd have the cans with the pickup arms. I do agree the US has gotten lazy as far as their recycle efforts.

It -can- smell. Depends on how you do your composting. Out in the edges of the burbs near farmland, it's pretty common to grab a bucket of chicken poop from a neighbor's yard and add it to the heap to help break down the organic material. If the wind shifts and you're downwind of the shift, it can get pretty nauseating.

It's the manure that stinks, not the compost.
Manure, compost, chalk and cheese.

If you put chicken poop into your compost heap and mix it around, then it is your compost that is stinking. And you shouldn't ever put cheese in a compost heap.

Don't understand what cans get you. We had them in PA and it was a pain....to the degree that neighbors would let them out all day until they got home from work or the weather improved. This system is so much easier. Also, two stage trash trucks are noisier since the need to run them them at every stop and still need to compact. Here they run the compactor when the rear bin is full and that can take an entire block to fill. The cost of a two stage truck is more expensive and of course we would pay for that. Don't understand the infatuation with cans.

There are simply too many folks who have the time and energy to complain and critisize, but do not have the time and energy to learn about the community in which they chose to live.

Our trash rates increased because of recycling. Will our trash rates increase to end recycling?

Today's technology isn't making life any easier

That will depend on the charges from the landfills to take all our stuff.

We are sending a second fleet of trucks around The Villsges every week. How environmentally friendly and cost effective is that? If it’s going to the landfill as I have heard, it is absurd.

Quite frankly I don't like the can idea either. Just put it out there because an earlier poster asked about the cans. Don't have the room to store them in the garage and would look crappy sitting in the yard as they are quite large.

You don't have room to store one big garbage can in the garage. So where do you store all the different trash bags filled with trash? Kitchen, bathroom, other bathroom, the bag you use to clean the litterbox, lint from the dryer, etc. etc. etc.

Before The Villages I lived in a large 55+ community in Leesburg for 10 years. That comm had (and still uses) a waste company that ONLY took TRASH & RECYCLING using HUGE plastic bins with hinged tops - they were about 30" square and 4' high - green for trash, blue for recycl. Needed to wheel them out the night before. The trucks were manned by ONLY the driver and the truck had a pneumatic pivoting arm on the side of the truck that would grasp the bin and noisily lift/rotate it into the truck. Each cycle would take about 30 seconds - much longer than our guys flipping bags in the truck... another truck came for recycl bins. AND of course, after the trash is taken the empty bins are left on the curb, sometimes tipping, and smelling -sometimes all day if the people were out. AND many folks kept them outside, not in the garage during the week.

Although OUR system here in TV is not perfect, it's better than that...

All those individual trash cans you mentioned get emptied twice a week into a large trash bag which is contained in a kitchen size garbage can in the garage. No need for storing this trash in the house unless you consider each individual trash receptacle as being storage. Those trash receptacles are being used on a daily basis. They do not need emptying until trash day when they go out to the end of the driveway.

Most garages here in TV are a standard size and are not large enough to fit large trash bins in these garages (unless you only have one vehicle in the garage). I do not want to look at these garbage cans on the sides of homes nor in back yards. Many back yards face main streets here in TV. Our community would look "trashy" and I imagine that is not the look most home owners in our lovely neighborhoods would want.

The never ending garbage topic. Back on topic if there's no demand for recycled item they get thrown in the regular trash.


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In our designer, with two cars in the garage and a workshop in the golf cart garage, we would not have had space for a trash can. Somebody wouldn't have been able to get into his car.


With two trash pickups per week, we've never had to store trash in the garage.


To people advocating garbage going into disposals, I say what about meat bones, lettuce leaves, peelings and other things that aren't supposed to go down the disposal? Even coffee grounds and egg shells are not recommended to be put into disposals. You can't just throw those items into a bagless bin. And you can't compost bones.

I understand that. But when one bag is full, and it's not trash day the next day, you need a place to put that full bag so you can put a fresh bag in the bin.

I thought my question was pretty clear but perhaps not. Especially considering the litterbox issue, where I clean the solid and clumps every single day. They get cleaned into a plastic bag, and that bag gets put in the garbage can, which we keep outside in our back yard up north until trash day.

Kitchen waste goes in the kitchen trash bin - until that bag is full. Then we empty it out and put THAT in the garbage can out back, until trash day. Bathroom trash goes in the bathroom trash bin, until THAT bag is full. And then it goes in the garbage can out back, until trash day.

Where do people who claim they don't have room for a single trash can, put those bags of trash when their multiple trash bins in the rooms of their house are full, on days when it isn't trash day that or the following day?

I have never, in 8 years, had to store trash in the garage to wait for trash day. We just don't generate that much trash. As I said in an earlier post, we truly had NO room for a garbage can in our puny designer garage. Now that we're in a CYV with only one car in the garage, we could have one, as long as we don't have a golf cart. But... we don't need a garbage can. The dog's déjections are bagged and go into a "poop jar" outside (which is where I would put cat litter if we had a cat) to be added to the garbage bag on trash days.

If they drop down to one trash pickup per week, we would have one bag, tall kitchen can size, in the garage till trash day. But I hope they don't, because garages are hot and I would hate to have garbage festering in there. As for recyclables, we put ours in the laundry room sink until pickup day. If they stop accepting recycling, either at the curb or at the designated facility, that bag will be added to the trash.

Up north we had cans blowing all over the road. It was unsightly. I like the way TV does it.

I do my part and put the trash out on trash day, how ever they pick it up and what they do with it is their business. I pay for service and they do good job. The problem with trash cans is they blow over, people throw anything in them, and some Lazy _____ won’t bring the back off the street. If some Think they can do it better create company and put in bid

I was looking for a sane post on this thread, finally found it. Thanks.

That was my point in a previous post.......we don't fill our individual trash cans that are in daily use in the house. On a VERY rare occasion, the kitchen garbage can needs to be emptied before trash pick up, I take the bag, close it up and place it in the garage or place it on the lanai until it goes to the curb on garbage pick up day. We are only two people in the house and we can't even try to fill our trash cans in the house. I could even go one week before needing to replace the bags in the house trash cans.

All the things you mention CAN be put down the disposer with the exception of meat bones.
Yes -- coffee grounds and eggshells, too.

Probably the toughest things are carrot and potato peelings, but if you are careful -- i.e. put them in the disposal slowly and not stuff all of them in at one time -- you shouldn't have an issue.

I also put chicken bones down and have no problem with them.

One of the key issues is to buy a really good disposal. I have a 3/4 h.p. Waste King and have never had any trouble.

Have to say the days of dodging trash cans scattered up and down the streets or alley was a pain and looked so appealing. Most never moved from the curb until the truck came along the next week. Most drew more critters than bags since they had not been cleaned since the founding of this country. Not in favor of any type of container. We can not understand how people have so much trash in first place. We put out a 4 gallon trash bag every other week. Recycling goes out weekly depending on wine and beer consumption. Have a composter and it hidden. Issue for sanitation companies is no where to put it. Another one of those ostrich moments for America, just ignore it and it does not exist. There are many things that could be done but no backbone to do it. We are all of an age where we can remember no plastic straws, Styrofoam containers etc. How did we live without them, o my!!!

True, the builders line disposals are pure junk, I installed a multi stage insinkerator, but there a still some things that will clog up the trap, no fun clearing a clogged sink trap--done it several times, here and in NC

I may not be an expert, but I have a degree in Metallurgical Engineering, I have bought primary and secondary aluminum for 20 years, over 1 Billion pounds at last calculation, and I have been inside just about every aluminum smelter and recycler in the country. This is what I know - recycled aluminum scrap is WAY cheaper than primary, and aluminum is 100% recyclable, and most stays in the country. Products like Lawn Mower engines, which have 10-12 million a year produced in this country are 100% recycled aluminum for instance. Aluminum cans are made from as much recycled aluminum as they can get, in places like Alcoa, TN, Warrick, IN, and Oswego, NY - not China.

Aluminum scrap pays for most recycling programs. China has ZERO to do with that.
Most of the issue is with PLASTICs not metals.

Just my opinion - or you can believe what you read on the internet - it is always true :blahblahblah: