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Professor 03-07-2022 07:15 AM

Many of us can't hear all that well anymore so perhaps the noise is not a bother to some. Best bet is to purchase what you like in an area you like, what ever, and where ever that may be.

Ptmckiou 03-07-2022 07:33 AM

We live in Hawkins and rarely notice any turnpike noise. However, we do hear Morse BLvd and Warm Springs Rd noise. You get use to noise and then no longer hear it anymore. I doubt you’ll get away from any noise, unless you want to pay a $150K to $350K extra on a house that sits on a premium lot back somewhere on a preserve.

jmpate 03-07-2022 07:37 AM

Turnpike noise
 
Turnpike noise can be heard in most villages south of 44, but not to the degree it's heard along Meggison. I'd be more concerned about the quarry drilling noise & building shakings & a maximum security prison location than freeway noise. My husband always conducts an environmental assessment before we buy anywhere. Then we make a decision IF we can live with the findings! I for one, never trust anyone who wants my money & take the due diligence step before signing a contract.


QUOTE=Normal;2069065]Besides the crazy prices of new and used home is anyone concerned about these homes down the road?[/QUOTE]

Prices are crazy, I see Villas with 1600 feet selling for 500 K. We bought just North of Meggison in Citrus Grove and can sometimes hear the turnpike. That’s with a golf course and a couple ponds between us. The noise isn’t bad but is noticeable depending on the evening.

That said, why would anyone sink a half million into a house on the Turnpike? I wouldn’t bank (literally) on the noise being suppressed much. Don’t forget, there are plans to widen it. The Villages is building the Bexley bridge and has to accommodate for 2 extra lanes. If I were you, just enjoy the winters here and rent for a year or two or find another area away from the Turnpike.[/QUOTE]

sallyg 03-07-2022 07:49 AM

Check out the other "older" neighborhoods. Very quiet in Marsh Bend. Homes are only about two years old and previous owners will have improved or added the various things you might like. Also, all the appliances are in. No extra expense of purchasing washer and dryer. Good luck. Have fun looking.

merrymini 03-07-2022 07:53 AM

Lived a quarter mile from a highway once and glad not to hear the noise here. Lived a mile away from a quarry and really glad not to hear that noise here! I can get to a walking path or a hospital when I need to and do not feel the need to live near those areas. I care about stuff like that but some people do not. Caveat emptor.

Luggage 03-07-2022 08:03 AM

What really matters is if you are an outside person or an inside person. In Florida most people don't go outside to see any breakfast because it's hot, so that's really my answer to you, don't forget any houses near route 44 are also quite noisy and if you live right next to a commercial area that can be very busy and noisy. Down the road in plantation community their newer section is miles away from the turnpike and yet because it's so flat you hear the constant drone. If it's a big deal to you consider staying in the older sections north of 44 or find a beautiful community like Pennbrooke Fairways and a mile off of route 44 and much quieter and half a million dollars less per home

Luggage 03-07-2022 08:04 AM

PS there are a dozen Senior communities that are not the villages in the same area and not quite the hustle bustle of The villages

rrtjp 03-07-2022 08:04 AM

Prison??
Where is the prison located?

davebeau60 03-07-2022 08:05 AM

We purchased a Villa for an investment rental in Marsh Bend, close to the end where the Turnpike is. At first we noticed alot of turnpike noise as well and we were worried about how that would impact our short and long term rentals. Long story short 2 years later, once the area was fully developed and the planted bushes/foliage/grass had grown, it was quite amazing how much the turnpike noise was reduced. Almost 3 years later, even more so. It's like it was not even the same place. You may have to wait, but eventually the noise will be reduced significantly. At least that was our experience.

Dsmdlm 03-07-2022 08:10 AM

Turnpike noise
 
We bought a home in Monarch Grove and yes can hear the turnpike noise. But it varies and becomes background noise you don’t notice much. We love our area and are excited for the expansion down this way!
We felt there is pros and cons to each house and location. It comes down to what is important to you!

b0bd0herty 03-07-2022 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by flower7330@gmail.com (Post 2069033)
My wife and I are here for the winter and have been actively looking for a home in TV. We have primarily been looking at new spec homes in the villages of St. John's and Hawkins.
We were told by our Villages realtor that there are sections in these villages where you won't here the turnpike noise. For the most part that is true because when you look at them during the day all you hear is construction noise. We made a visit to these areas on a Sunday night and were shocked at how loud it is. We are really surprised that these houses are still selling like crazy even with the loud highway noise.
Besides the crazy prices of new and used home is anyone concerned about these homes down the road?

Nope. Not concerned because I live in Pine Ridge and hear absolutely nothing from the turnpike.
Am glad you're looking into this now and won't become one of those, "This is so loud here I can't sleep or enjoy my lanai and they need to do something about it."
Good luck on finding a great place!

JoannMH 03-07-2022 08:42 AM

I also live in Monarch Grove and hear some turnpike noise. I anticipated this when building my home and added a water feature in my pool and speakers in my lanai that allows me to have music when enjoying the outdoor area. So when traffic is a bit loud (definitely not always) I do not even notice it with music and the sound of my fountain. Certainly my location for the new amenities that are being built far outweigh any traffic noise.

beckylou152 03-07-2022 08:45 AM

Turnpike noise
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flower7330@gmail.com (Post 2069033)
My wife and I are here for the winter and have been actively looking for a home in TV. We have primarily been looking at new spec homes in the villages of St. John's and Hawkins.
We were told by our Villages realtor that there are sections in these villages where you won't here the turnpike noise. For the most part that is true because when you look at them during the day all you hear is construction noise. We made a visit to these areas on a Sunday night and were shocked at how loud it is. We are really surprised that these houses are still selling like crazy even with the loud highway noise.
Besides the crazy prices of new and used home is anyone concerned about these homes down the road?

Well, I personally wouldn't build right next to the turnpike, because it is loud. I was in a new neighborhood on the Southern Oaks golf course yesterday, and it was LOUD. All of these folks are building lovely homes with pools, and I know that I couldn't sit outside and enjoy my lovely lanai and pool right on the turnpike.

But, you can hear NOTHING inside of your home (at least I can't). So, if you plan on being inside your home, versus outside on a lanai, you will likely be fine. Like the other posters, I do think you should go to prospective lots at various times to see how the noise affects you, and then think about what is important to you. Other things to consider are what direction is your house facing, etc. If you are not happy with the noise, wait a bit. There are TONS of new neighborhoods coming up if you are committed to buying new.

I live south of 44 and also LOVE the walking trails - I am on them every day. I rented for a solid month before choosing my home. I weighed the pros and cons of each area, and chose this area a good bit away from the turnpike, near the preserve, just a lovely area. That being said, I do think (still think, always have) that the area north of 44 is more beautiful because of the established landscape, mature trees, lovely golf courses. I know I'd be happy there too, but I am a walker and there are no walking trails up there, so that did it for me.

Good luck, and welcome to a great place to live!

NoMo50 03-07-2022 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rrtjp (Post 2069450)
Prison??
Where is the prison located?

USP Coleman is a federal prison complex located north of highway 470, just West of Marsh Bend Trail (highway 501).

Judy Vons 03-07-2022 09:47 AM

Good Point
 
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Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 2069366)
A lot of the area south of 44 is reclaimed swamp , even north the “new” homes built in the last 4-5 years are having water problems , roads sidewalks buckling drainage issues, check very carefully the lots you are considering ,several unhappy buyers bought online unseen and regret it.

You make a good point. Our son is a water engineer and advised against our buying a home in the southern areas. He works for the Florida Southwest Water Management District and asked another engineer who is assigned this area. We were concerned about sinkholes, flooding, and water issues.

Birdrm 03-07-2022 10:27 AM

I Agree
 
Originally I was considering buying in the St. John's or Richmond area because of the closeness to Brownwood Square. I ended up purchasing my home in Hammock at Fenney because of how quiet it is over here.

gail swanson 03-07-2022 10:39 AM

They are licensed in the State of Fl but don’t belong to MLS or realtor Assn,

tedquick 03-07-2022 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flower7330@gmail.com (Post 2069033)
My wife and I are here for the winter and have been actively looking for a home in TV. We have primarily been looking at new spec homes in the villages of St. John's and Hawkins.
We were told by our Villages realtor that there are sections in these villages where you won't here the turnpike noise. For the most part that is true because when you look at them during the day all you hear is construction noise. We made a visit to these areas on a Sunday night and were shocked at how loud it is. We are really surprised that these houses are still selling like crazy even with the loud highway noise.
Besides the crazy prices of new and used home is anyone concerned about these homes down the road?

I was a Realtor (in the mid-west) for 41 years and here are a couple thoughts: if you are thinking that the noise might bother you then it probably will. Do what my wife and I did. We visited half a dozen times to see how we would live and then bought in that general part of TV. We frequent Savannah, The Sharon and the Black Box (Tierra del Sol) and we wanted to be close to shopping so we purchased just north of 466 and completely redid a 14 year-old home. We love the quiet, the location (location, location, location) and the convenience of where we live. Best of luck to you.

JMintzer 03-07-2022 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 2069365)
They haven’t been properly trained in the art of lying to you

So the "real" realtors have been trained?

Interesting plot twist!

mlmarr 03-07-2022 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flower7330@gmail.com (Post 2069033)
My wife and I are here for the winter and have been actively looking for a home in TV. We have primarily been looking at new spec homes in the villages of St. John's and Hawkins.
We were told by our Villages realtor that there are sections in these villages where you won't here the turnpike noise. For the most part that is true because when you look at them during the day all you hear is construction noise. We made a visit to these areas on a Sunday night and were shocked at how loud it is. We are really surprised that these houses are still selling like crazy even with the loud highway noise.
Besides the crazy prices of new and used home is anyone concerned about these homes down the road?

So many think they must have new.. but why is the question .. look at resales, with a MILS relator or villages realtor, look at the after charges for CDD charges not part of the purchase price but a add on, etc ..

Be wise and welcome.

BigSteph 03-07-2022 12:13 PM

I live in Hawkins. The road noise is mild on some days/nights and loud on others. It depends on the weather that given day.

During the day, you don't really pay any attention to it.

During the evening, if you sit out, it can be loud at times.

Sometimes, inside the house, you can hear the din of road noise.

It doesn't make me want to move, but if I knew last year what I know now, I might have looked at other Villages and pre-owned.


I live 1/2 mile from Turnpike.

I live 1.25 miles from Saw Grass.

I'm really interested to see if Saw Grass will be a nightly music venue. There are so many homes adjacent, that the road noise might be a mild concern once the venue opens.

Madee 03-07-2022 12:34 PM

Here's one thing I learned about the new construction homes near the turnpike. I've been searching for months for an existing or new spec home and just finally gave up searching for now.
Starting last year with St. Catherine, then Citrus Grove, Cason Hammock, Hawkins and now St.John's, TV would release several homes a day for sale. If you are actively working with a sales rep you get the list sent to you. If you're interested in buying one on the list, the rep has to place a 3-hour hold on it for you. If your rep is the first one to "hold" the listing you pay a deposit and close in 30 days. Most sell the same day they are released. Then, just DAYS after these listings go "pending" I would see a new post in TV rental FB group with "Be the first to rent this brand new home! Available in April."
Looks like a good majority are being bought up by investors for rentals. :(

joelfmi 03-07-2022 03:02 PM

There are three things some realest agent, and some salespeople that cannot hide.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flower7330@gmail.com (Post 2069033)
My wife and I are here for the winter and have been actively looking for a home in TV. We have primarily been looking at new spec homes in the villages of St. John's and Hawkins.
We were told by our Villages realtor that there are sections in these villages where you won't here the turnpike noise. For the most part that is true because when you look at them during the day all you hear is construction noise. We made a visit to these areas on a Sunday night and were shocked at how loud it is. We are really surprised that these houses are still selling like crazy even with the loud highway noise.
Besides the crazy prices of new and used home is anyone concerned about these homes down the road?

One is a lot of smoke and mirror comments, 2.agrussive sales tacts.3. tell you what you what to here. That is why you should do your due diligence before you any home any where.

haysus7 03-07-2022 03:25 PM

Few and far between days are spent sitting on lanai Too hot. Too cold. Too buggy.

Bilyclub 03-07-2022 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by haysus7 (Post 2069704)
Few and far between days are spent sitting on lanai Too hot. Too cold. Too buggy.

I thought lanais in TV are screened.
Screened-in patios, or lanais, are fully enclosed with aluminum framing and screens. The screens prevent pests such as mosquitoes, wasps, no-see-ums, and other insects from entering the patio and bothering you while you are sitting outside.

Stu from NYC 03-07-2022 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2069747)
I thought lanais in TV are screened.
Screened-in patios, or lanais, are fully enclosed with aluminum framing and screens. The screens prevent pests such as mosquitoes, wasps, no-see-ums, and other insects from entering the patio and bothering you while you are sitting outside.

Yes they are enclosed by screens but our western exposed lanai gets too hot in summre and too cold in winter.

As a result we converted to a Florida room with double E glass to make it livable all year round.

Grew up near JFK airport and lots of times we had to listen to planes taking off and landing. No way do I buy a house near a major highway.

Would go to the area at various times of the day and listen and listen and listen.

flower7330@gmail.com 03-09-2022 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boston-Sean (Post 2069136)
I would imaging that wind speed/direction would be a major factor on whether the turnpike is "noisy" or not.

Is there a prevailing wind direction in that location?


There's a constant hum. Plus the tractor trailers with it's joyful noises.

flower7330@gmail.com 03-09-2022 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flanman (Post 2069393)
It does become background noise. We moved south of 44 because it’s a younger population (we retired here two years ago at 60). Depends what you are looking for.

That is definitely a factor as well. My wife and I are newly retired as well and age is a factor. (62 & 58).

CoachKandSportsguy 03-09-2022 08:24 AM

We can see the highway from the house, and the noise is not a problem most times, just low background noise if out front watching a softball game. BUT I can hear the trains at night through closed windows in Marsh Bend, and I could hear that noise every morning as a kid from the railroad 3-4 miles away. just the click and clack . . and I have no problem with it. . .

its a personal preference, so please do your personal research at your location, which gets hard as you might need to camp out to get the various times of day and commute versus weekend, summer versus winter

flower7330@gmail.com 03-09-2022 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by b0bd0herty (Post 2069471)
Nope. Not concerned because I live in Pine Ridge and hear absolutely nothing from the turnpike.
Am glad you're looking into this now and won't become one of those, "This is so loud here I can't sleep or enjoy my lanai and they need to do something about it."
Good luck on finding a great place!

We actually looked at a house in Pine Ridge and it was very quiet with hardly any noise. All looked good until we saw what the taxes were. Once we pay the higher price the taxes be actually be higher than we are paying currently in upstate NY on a 37 acre property. I'm not sure if Lake County taxes are so much higher but we were shocked.

Papa_lecki 03-09-2022 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by flower7330@gmail.com (Post 2070314)
We actually looked at a house in Pine Ridge and it was very quiet with hardly any noise. All looked good until we saw what the taxes were. Once we pay the higher price the taxes be actually be higher than we are paying currently in upstate NY on a 37 acre property. I'm not sure if Lake County taxes are so much higher but we were shocked.

Did the previous owners take homestead exemption - will you? Will you establish FLA residency and pay FLA state income tax rate vs NY rate?

flower7330@gmail.com 03-09-2022 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2070341)
Did the previous owners take homestead exemption - will you? Will you establish FLA residency and pay FLA state income tax rate vs NY rate?

Yes. We would live in Fl and use the homestead exception. But after you add in the bond and amenity fees it's more than we can afford. We had always assumed that
the FL taxes would be much less and then when you add in the additional Villages fees it would pretty much be a push to what we are paying now.
We assumed about $1200 a month without a mortgage and that is doable.
The home we were looking at was on Pope Pl and the current taxes are $7200 without the increase after the sale. That is what we are paying now in NY. We understand that FL expenses are bit a less.
What is the Homestead discount a year?

laboutj 03-09-2022 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flower7330@gmail.com (Post 2070314)
We actually looked at a house in Pine Ridge and it was very quiet with hardly any noise. All looked good until we saw what the taxes were. Once we pay the higher price the taxes be actually be higher than we are paying currently in upstate NY on a 37 acre property. I'm not sure if Lake County taxes are so much higher but we were shocked.

Also check the cost of the bond for those houses south of 44 compared to homes north of 44. It's another sneaky 'tax' that people are willing to ignore.


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