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JMintzer 03-31-2022 08:09 AM
I swear, some people just can't help themselves...

DaleDivine 03-31-2022 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by La lamy (Post 2078366)
Nice to see a thread looking for positive responses! As I've said before, this is active retirement heaven, and I'm SO GRATEFUL to have been introduced to it. Build on I say!
:clap2: :clap2: :clap2:
I agree. No other place like this in the world. I'm definitely glad I'm part of it.
:coolsmiley::clap2::bigbow:

fdpaq0580 03-31-2022 08:14 AM
Love my home here. Love the surrounding area. Love the lifestyle. Is everything perfect? That is a debate that can be had about anyplace. But The Villages is my home and I am lucky and happy to be here.
Thank you!
Freddy the Frog (here 'till I croak.)

🐸

Bogie Shooter 03-31-2022 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sgneary (Post 2078446)
The only place in the United States where you purchase a new home and it is already a fixer upper. So sad to say that too.
Flip it……………

dewilson58 03-31-2022 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ureout (Post 2078408)
I do respect the concept but I also respect the truth and do not wish to partake of the KOOL AID that many have obviously drank..
Dude, nothing to do with KA, someone just started a positive thread with a simple request and the negative nellies just can help themselves from spreading their comments in all threads. NN's should just go start a different thread. It's simple.

:ho:

dewilson58 03-31-2022 08:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgneary (Post 2078446)
The only place in the United States where you purchase a new home and it is already a fixer upper. So sad to say that too.
Trying to figure out your other name. :blahblahblah:

Thanks for posting. :1rotfl:

Stu from NYC 03-31-2022 09:05 AM
Someone should write out a pledge of allegiance to the developer for which it stands.:bigbow:

fdpaq0580 03-31-2022 09:48 AM
Gotta love TOTV. It's like the old Monty Python routine, " (receptionist) Good day sir. How can I help you? (customer) I'd like to have an argument, please."
Some folks just would rather find fault and tell you what they don't like than say one word about what they do like. OP wanted to have a thread that let folks express their appreciation for what we have here, rather than the usual liturgy of what is wrong. Like the old Thanksgiving tradition of telling what you are thankful for rather than bitching and moaning about all you find fault with.
Sorry, OP, just one thread without complaints and sarcasm was too much to hope for. Better luck next time.

🙈🙉🙊

dewilson58 03-31-2022 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2078479)
Someone should write out a pledge of allegiance to the developer for which it stands.:bigbow:
And we all pledge just prior to the start of entertainment at each square.

:a040:

Boomer 03-31-2022 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2078318)
We first visited TV in 2007 but were not ready to buy until later.

On that first visit, the sales department assigned us an agent. We spent a little time hearing her spiel, but then I asked for a different agent.

Why did I do that?

Well. . .because as she was touring us around, she said that she needed to tell me something about The Villages that every buyer needed to know. (She said this in a dramatic, confidential tone.)

Me: And what is it that is so important to know?

The Agent: If you live here, you must never say anything bad about The Villages or people will not like you.

(I thought it was a weird thing for her to say, like this was the world’s biggest high school.)

Boomer


Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick B (Post 2078379)
So she told the truth and you punished her?

This is not the takeaway I implied in my little story about the experience, but I guess the response above helps to make my point.

I had no intention of bad-mouthing anything and had given no such impression, but to be told immediately by a sales rep that a lockstep mentality was necessary made it sound like a cult.

It was a darned weird first impression and my “takeaway” was that rep had been so effectively programmed that she was not somebody I wanted to do business with. Why was she trying to control a narrative that I knew nothing about? Made me wonder if something was going on that nobody was supposed to talk about. Whatever she was trying to do, it was strange, and definitely not my style. (shudder) But I guess it worked on some people.

Boomer

PS: Bought a few years later from a rep with an actual personality and who did not seem to be battery-operated.

Djean1981 03-31-2022 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ureout (Post 2078218)
I've been here 20 yrs and think the concept is great.. but the developer does not take care of and maintain the older areas, it's the district you live in that maintains them.. In fact many years ago 2008 there was a huge law suit that TV's lost paying 40 miilion $$$ for the upkeep that should have been being done

Villages settles lawsuit, will fund $40M in upgrades – Orlando Sentinel

I'm not trying to be negative because I do believe TV is a great place to live, but there is a huge difference in how the developer does business now compared to before they crossed over 44.. In the past you would never see a development being built without "ALL" the amenities being put in 1st... now it's sell the homes and then put in Rec. centers, pools, and golf courses the residents can wait
The buyers should know, by looking, what they are buying

ureout 03-31-2022 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2078466)
Dude, nothing to do with KA, someone just started a positive thread with a simple request and the negative nellies just can help themselves from spreading their comments in all threads. NN's should just go start a different thread. It's simple.

:ho:
Dude..lol it's been years since I've been called that

yes I understand the OP's wishes but this is an OPEN forum,
I didn't LIE about what happened. I just told the truth for those of you that were not here pre 2008 and do not know the HISTORY of how TV's really did become an amazing place to live.

Again it's not because the developer watched over us ready to fixed all of our problems that arose. It was because they were sued and made to change there SOP's on what and how our amenity fees were used .

Papa_lecki 03-31-2022 10:39 AM
I don’t understand. Apparently this place sucks so much, you need to have a new house under contract within a hour of it being released by the developer, and new houses are under contract within 2 to 3 weeks. And people hate it so much, they move 3 or 4 times, within the villages. They are not selling and moving someplace else, they are selling and moving 0.5 miles away.

Houses appreciated like 20 or 30% in the last 12 months

(DISCLOSURE: My numbers may not be 100% accurate, but they are close)

Stu from NYC 03-31-2022 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2078514)
I don’t understand. Apparently this place sucks so much, you need to have a new house under contract within a hour of it being released by the developer, and new houses are under contract within 2 to 3 weeks. And people hate it so much, they move 3 or 4 times, within the villages. They are not selling and moving someplace else, they are selling and moving 0.5 miles away.

Houses appreciated like 20 or 30% in the last 12 months

(DISCLOSURE: My numbers may not be 100% accurate, but they are close)
As I read this thread people are not saying this place is bad just not perfect.

Did find it very interesting that the developer was sued to make them put the money we pay for amenities into the amenities.

dewilson58 03-31-2022 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ureout (Post 2078508)
I didn't LIE about what happened. .
Very paranoid aren't we.

Paranoia #1: I never said you lied.

Paranoia #2: My original response was directed at VAPeople, strike a nerve with you??

chilout

manaboutown 03-31-2022 11:29 AM
IMHO the developer's financial rewards are the accolades that matter the most. The proof is in the pudding. Success is its own reward. That the success has run at least three generations is remarkable. The family's ongoing work ethic and creative genius is amazing and rare.

As I see it Harold had a history of being a great promoter but the trailer park in the watermelon patch was just not cutting it. He convinced his son Gary to come down. Gary was the genius who built on Del Webb's Sun City concept, adding some Disneyesque features, and Voila! The Villages was born.

Sabella 03-31-2022 11:59 AM
Yeah and the residents in the villages are paying for the beautiful job of maintaining it not the developer.

Stu from NYC 03-31-2022 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sabella (Post 2078525)
Yeah and the residents in the villages are paying for the beautiful job of maintaining it not the developer.
Funny how people do not really understand how this place works and where our amenity dollars go. Landscaping is generally done very well.

Bogie Shooter 03-31-2022 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sabella (Post 2078525)
Yeah and the residents in the villages are paying for the beautiful job of maintaining it not the developer.
So………and your point is?

Stu from NYC 03-31-2022 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2078541)
So………and your point is?
I think her point was that residents thank the developer for this and it is the individual districts paying for it out of our amenity fees.

Stu from NYC 03-31-2022 12:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Affordable Furniture Guys (Post 2078532)
An analogy:
The United States Founding Fathers laid a framework what is an amazing country to live in.
They purposely built in "healthy tension" as the guiding dynamic that kept it great.
They encouraged debate, encouraged differing opinions, encouraged disagreements.
I view The Villages the same way:

1) There is no place I'd rather be: US and The Villages
2) I don't agree with everything - and occasionally complain: US and The Villages
3) I don't think number 1 and number 2 above are not compatible.
4) When the option for disagreement - challenge - disappears - it usually ends up in bad results.
5) For example - imagine a country that is only one party: only Republicans or only Democrats - would we be better off - or worse off - putting aside your personal beliefs? I think we'd be worse off - much worse of - there are many examples that demonstrate this: China? Russia? North Korea?

That's my take.
Complain away.
And defend away.
And - most of all - be glad you were born in the US - and found The Villages for this stage in life.
Very well said

rustyp 03-31-2022 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2078489)
Gotta love TOTV. It's like the old Monty Python routine, " (receptionist) Good day sir. How can I help you? (customer) I'd like to have an argument, please."
Some folks just would rather find fault and tell you what they don't like than say one word about what they do like. OP wanted to have a thread that let folks express their appreciation for what we have here, rather than the usual liturgy of what is wrong. Like the old Thanksgiving tradition of telling what you are thankful for rather than bitching and moaning about all you find fault with.
Sorry, OP, just one thread without complaints and sarcasm was too much to hope for. Better luck next time.

🙈🙉🙊
Home owner - This parrot is dead, deceased, no more, ceased to be, met its maker, pushin up daisies.

Developer - this parrot is simply resting.

Home owner - This is an x parrot.

Developer - You should call the home warranty dept.

Home owner - Hello home warranty. I insist you replace this parrot.

Developer - Sorry we no longer build the norwegian blue model. We can substitute for a slug.

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-31-2022 01:07 PM
The birds really love the statue of Harold Schwartz in Spanish Springs Town Square! Awesome job Developers for commissioning it.

Bogie Shooter 03-31-2022 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2078544)
I think her point was that residents thank the developer for this and it is the individual districts paying for it out of our amenity fees.
Let her speak for herself.

Topspinmo 03-31-2022 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2078491)
And we all pledge just prior to the start of entertainment at each square.

:a040:
Yes, in-line waiting for my liquor.

Keefelane66 03-31-2022 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2078489)
Gotta love TOTV. It's like the old Monty Python routine, " (receptionist) Good day sir. How can I help you? (customer) I'd like to have an argument, please."
Some folks just would rather find fault and tell you what they don't like than say one word about what they do like. OP wanted to have a thread that let folks express their appreciation for what we have here, rather than the usual liturgy of what is wrong. Like the old Thanksgiving tradition of telling what you are thankful for rather than bitching and moaning about all you find fault with.
Sorry, OP, just one thread without complaints and sarcasm was too much to hope for. Better luck next time.

🙈🙉🙊
Well it sort of is if one chooses they can get SPAM at a restaurant now

Stu from NYC 03-31-2022 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2078560)
Let her speak for herself.
You might have scared her off.

MartinSE 03-31-2022 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2078190)
They have done a great job of building this place and shocking that people complain that they keep building.

They must make a bloody fortune on what they do on the existing space and cannot imagine them wanting to sell out.

BTW nothing wrong with constructive criticism but some people do go way over the line.
I hope they are making a bloody fortune!

We looked at a lot of places and found many “Villages” before finding this, and most were run down or abandoned altogether.

This place is still amazing after 20 years. It is not just the developers, but the systems they put in place to keep it up.

Topspinmo 03-31-2022 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2078426)
And you are blaming The Developer, right?
Well, does own all the championship courses, who else at the top???

Stu from NYC 03-31-2022 06:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2078634)
Well, does own all the championship courses, who else at the top???
Apparently you are not allowed to criticize the developer on this thread on penalty of all kinds of bad stuff

npwalters 03-31-2022 06:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Affordable Furniture Guys (Post 2078532)
An analogy:
The United States Founding Fathers laid a framework what is an amazing country to live in.
They purposely built in "healthy tension" as the guiding dynamic that kept it great.
They encouraged debate, encouraged differing opinions, encouraged disagreements.
I view The Villages the same way:

1) There is no place I'd rather be: US and The Villages
2) I don't agree with everything - and occasionally complain: US and The Villages
3) I don't think number 1 and number 2 above are not compatible.
4) When the option for disagreement - challenge - disappears - it usually ends up in bad results.
5) For example - imagine a country that is only one party: only Republicans or only Democrats - would we be better off - or worse off - putting aside your personal beliefs? I think we'd be worse off - much worse of - there are many examples that demonstrate this: China? Russia? North Korea?

That's my take.
Complain away.
And defend away.
And - most of all - be glad you were born in the US - and found The Villages for this stage in life.
Yep, what this poster said

Stu from NYC 03-31-2022 07:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 2078642)
Yep, what this poster said
But it should be done in a civilized manner.

dewilson58 03-31-2022 08:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2078649)
But it should be done in a civilized manner.
Exactly.

And a key word is respect.
Respect, some don't understand the concept.

It's a social media board, come on.

If someone asks a specific thread to be positive, respect the request.
Don't be a D and be negative.
Respect, if one can not................it's best not to say anything.
If you don't respect and you can't "it's best not to say anything", than everyone sees it.
Rather than not respect, jus go start your own thread and be negative.....it's free.

:ho:

dewilson58 03-31-2022 08:04 PM
I praise the Developer for the lovely rain tonight, the full ponds and the greenness.

:coolsmiley:

joelfmi 03-31-2022 08:19 PM
Residence of the villiages never waste very true agony
 
We commend you for transparency about what is happening at the villages. There are three thing the villagers cannot hide, smoke and mirrors, negative transparency, enforcements of rules

fdpaq0580 03-31-2022 08:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2078548)
Home owner - This parrot is dead, deceased, no more, ceased to be, met its maker, pushin up daisies.

Developer - this parrot is simply resting.

Home owner - This is an x parrot.

Developer - You should call the home warranty dept.

Home owner - Hello home warranty. I insist you replace this parrot.

Developer - Sorry we no longer build the norwegian blue model. We can substitute for a slug.
Ha! Well remembered.

fdpaq0580 03-31-2022 09:33 PM
Sorry, Bruce, but it seems that there are a lot of folks who cannot find one positive thing to say about their "hometown".
As for me, I am fully aware of the past threads that were mostly, "here is what is wrong with TV and/or the developer", rants. I've participated in many and have my own list of things I think could be better. But, for this one thread, I thought it would be nice to see that we, the residents, actually like and appreciate where we live, even if things aren't perfect according to our own personal preferences.
I love living here. I appreciate the beauty of the whole development. The amenities, activities, services, etc. The Villages is a pretty nice place to live. Perfect in every way? No! But still, really nice.

GizmoWhiskers 04-01-2022 06:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce3055 (Post 2078147)
This post is strictly for praise to the developers or thoughts on what life might be like if the developer got tired of negative comments and sold out to a hedge fund.

Please no negative posts about the developer on this thread.
Family dynasty has indeed created the most amazing "bubble" in the country. Leave the bubble and you know you have left.

People are fleeing crap hole states and cities to retire in this amazing family created bubble. Two years ago you had your pick of homes. Not now. Just hope the bubble doesn't burst.

Stu from NYC 04-01-2022 07:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers (Post 2078716)
Family dynasty has indeed created the most amazing "bubble" in the country. Leave the bubble and you know you have left.

People are fleeing crap hole states and cities to retire in this amazing family created bubble. Two years ago you had your pick of homes. Not now. Just hope the bubble doesn't burst.
Nothing goes up forever, in two years our house has gone up a huge amount and do expect a correction in the near future.

Great place to live though.

Laker14 04-01-2022 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2078658)
We commend you for transparency about what is happening at the villages. There are three thing the villagers cannot hide, smoke and mirrors, negative transparency, enforcements of rules
That post makes no sense at all, but neither does the tag to it: "Residence of the villiages never waste very true agony"

Congratulations on making a totally nonsensical contribution to the conversation, Mr. Transparency.


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