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graciegirl 08-26-2018 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mama C (Post 1575235)
Mission Hills is unique because of its location between Sumter and Spanish Springs and it looks like everyone maintains the exterior of the homes/lots very well with some continuity. Nice area!.....in my opinion

It is a great area. AND is only seven years old. Close to groceries, restaurants, medical stuff....Right on 466 which is the center of the population here.

For now.

What time is it?

hoopsterdad 08-26-2018 08:51 AM

sold our patio villa rental in lynnhaven, FSBO, two weeks. got top dollar also, right buyer, right location.

New Englander 08-26-2018 09:11 AM

I'm in a Patio Villa in TV of Pinellas. My next door neighbor is buying in TV of DeSoto. She put her Patio for sale using a Villages sales agent and it sold in one week for full ask...

Fredman 08-26-2018 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1575233)
Friend. (I just got bopped my the moderator for calling someone by name)
I couldn't find a courtyard villa. I found this one but I think it is a patio villa for 209k on Zillow.
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...1_rect/11_zm/?

Can you link us to the one you are discussing? I love looking at homes.

I think you can find it on era.com. Page 8 1140 Santa Cruz drive

CWGUY 08-26-2018 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 1575167)
Just wondering why some pre-owned homes stay on the market for many months? For example, a turnkey courtyard villa in the Village of Santiago listed on the MLS has been on the market for 9 months. Looks really nice in the photos, fairly neutral decor, doesn't look really outdated to me, and doesn't seem to be really high priced ($205K). Or maybe this is too highly priced? I'm going strictly by the on line photos; I have not seen this CYV in person.

For those of you who are familiar with the real estate market in TV, what do you think?

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1575233)
Friend. (I just got bopped my the moderator for calling someone by name)
I couldn't find a courtyard villa. I found this one but I think it is a patio villa for 209k on Zillow.
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...1_rect/11_zm/?

Can you link us to the one you are discussing? I love looking at homes.

:ho: Here's the only CYV in Santiago for $205,000 I could find.

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sal...47_rect/14_zm/

andercat 08-26-2018 09:40 AM

The house backs to Buena Vista Blvd. That is a busy road. Maybe that is what is holding up the sale. Just a theory.

Challenger 08-26-2018 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cobh521 (Post 1575195)
I looked at the MLS and think I found it. The home is nice, however I don't think it has much curb appeal. The exterior patio area could be power washed. It may not be selling because the inside has not really been updated. What is the age of the roof. How old is the HVAC system? There are a lot of people looking for this type of home, however their price pint is $200k. I would suggest this home needs to be slightly under the $200k mark so that people will find it when doing a search for homes

I would agree. No curb appeal. Shows very bland. Need several things done before ever taking and publishing pics.

graciegirl 08-26-2018 09:53 AM

This home, also a court yard villa of the same size is in the new area up north and this one is brand new and only 4k more than the one Schaumburger is watching. New roof, air conditioner, light fixures, cabinet, etc. etc. Including new people in the neighborhood. This too is north of 466 and close to Publix.

This would be my choice of the two...bond and all.

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John_W 08-26-2018 09:55 AM

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EdFNJ 08-26-2018 11:53 AM

Pre-Owned Homes Staying On The Market for Months
 
My late father’s $78000 resale value (at that time - worth about $60K now) 40yr old 3rd floor 1br 1 1/8 bath 800 sq ft condo in S Fl was appraised for $180000 (not a typo) about 10 years ago when he took out his RM. When it comes to rev mortgages anything goes for appraisal since in the end the Feds who foot the bill. Now that was the “last person to leave” that appraisal is killing us. Letting it go into foreclosure. It was great for him (and the bank). Point is rev mortgage appraisals aren’t necessarily a 100% true indicator of resale value.

wendyquat 08-26-2018 02:51 PM

New roof, new water heater 2018, and BOND PAID. My guess is it’s not much overpriced but 2/2 is a drawback to some! I would think would make a great rental!

John_W 08-26-2018 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1575308)
My late father’s $78000 resale value (at that time - worth about $60K now) 40yr old 3rd floor 1br 1 1/8 bath 800 sq ft condo in S Fl was appraised for $180000 (not a typo) about 10 years ago when he took out his RM. When it comes to rev mortgages anything goes for appraisal since in the end the Feds who foot the bill. Now that was the “last person to leave” that appraisal is killing us. Letting it go into foreclosure. It was great for him (and the bank). Point is rev mortgage appraisals aren’t necessarily a 100% true indicator of resale value.

Apples and oranges, ten years ago was a housing boom, a lot of homes sold way above what they are worth now. Then there was a lot of foreclosures and Countrywide went out of business. The appraisal was simply reflecting the price at the time. Our home in 2011 was worth $157K, that's what we paid, today it's appraised at $237K and ten years from now who knows.

Actually I agree with you as far as our current appraisal, it's too low. Our next door neighbor's 2 BR CYV, who made no improvements except for the landscaping, listed it by owner in April for $229K and sold in 2 weeks for $223K, it originally sold in 2011 for $162K.

BK001 08-26-2018 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1575408)
Apples and oranges, ten years ago was a housing boom, a lot of homes sold way above what they are worth now. Then there was a lot of foreclosures and Countrywide went out of business. The appraisal was simply reflecting the price at the time. Our home in 2011 was worth $157K, that's what we paid, today it's appraised at $237K and ten years from now who knows.

Actually I agree with you as far as our current appraisal, it's too low. Our next door neighbor's 2 BR CYV, who made no improvements except for the landscaping, listed it by owner in April for $229K and sold in 2 weeks for $223K, it originally sold in 2011 for $162K.


Our house was pre-owned, and, in my opinion, had curb appeal and many extras including skylights, remote-controlled gas fireplace, jetted roman tub and walk-in shower, koi pond, outdoor therapy spa, solar heated pool, pergola and screened birdcage.

This pre-owned Lantana was purchased new for $307,300 in 2004.

In August 2015, eleven years later the owner listed it for sale for $429,900 (with an $11k bond balance).

The price was reduced 4 months later in December, to $419,900. In May 2016, we had been looking for exactly 5 days when we saw this house. (I fell for the beauty of the Lanai.) After 2 rounds of negotiations, the owner accepted $390,000.

So for us it was a head-turning “lightning round” yet for the owners, it was an agonizingly long 9 months to sell.

I think we got a terrific deal, and, the seller, with a 26 -27% appreciation (if my math is correct) in my opinion didn't do too badly either.

retiredguy123 08-26-2018 06:19 PM

A house will almost always sell if it is priced correctly. This house must be overpriced, like many other preowned houses on the market. I viewed a house this week that has been on the market for a few months. The owner paid $413K about 18 months ago, and priced it at $630K. Houses have just not appreciated that much in the past 2 years. The average Villages house has appreciated about 35 percent total over the past 5 years. You can add money for upgrades, but not as much as you paid for the upgrades. And, the seller should not add money to cover the real estate commission. That is totally a seller expense.

BK001 08-26-2018 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1575427)
A house will almost always sell if it is priced correctly. This house must be overpriced, like many other preowned houses on the market. I viewed a house this week that has been on the market for a few months. The owner paid $413K about 18 months ago, and priced it at $630K. Houses have just not appreciated that much in the past 2 years. The average Villages house has appreciated about 35 percent total over the past 5 years. You can add money for upgrades, but not as much as you paid for the upgrades. And, the seller should not add money to cover the real estate commission. That is totally a seller expense.


I agree with you. Yet it seems to me that those who sell after 2 or 3 years are doing better than those who have held for 10-15 years. And while none of us want a depreciating asset, I don't think appreciation is high on the list of many who buy here. I don't expect to benefit from appreciation since whatever we have will go to our heirs when we pass. And while there are some "speculators" here in TV, my guess is there are other markets that would show much stronger appreciation. However, I think 35% over 5 years is pretty darn good.


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