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Warren Kiefer 05-01-2013 09:15 PM

Priority Golf
 
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Originally Posted by ugotme (Post 669629)
Priority membership for 1 person - all courses is $740/year.

Do you feel it is worth becoming a priority member?

If so - WHY?

If not - WHY NOT?

For ten years I and my wife were priority golfers. About six years ago I became disillusioned with the priority program.We found that even with priority membership it was getting more and more difficult to get tee times.The final straw was when I conducted a personal survey of the geen fees in the area. I did my survey in March, (high season). I collected the green fee cost for 23 local golf courses. I was astonished when I concluded that for a resident, the six most expensive courses within 25 miles were those in the Villages. I just feel that we as Residents, that we who support the Villages in so many ways, primarily golf, should be given something in return for this support. I know some will comment that in Chicago Illinois the green fees are double what they are in the Villages. First the golfing season in Chicago only lasts 7 months at best. Basically the courses up north must develop income in seven months what the Villages develop in 12 months. And lastly, what the courses in California, Maine or wherever charge has no revelancy to what the Villages area courses charge. Like apples and oranges. I play in the Villages during the summer low cost season and outside the Villages the remainder of the year.

Fourpar 05-01-2013 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ajbrown (Post 669693)
Being a priority member was a no brainer for us. I knew my wife and I both wanted to play golf on champisonship courses and we would also play on executives. This is not a discussion about whether being a priority is better than playing off campus. This about playing in TV and is priority worth it?

To clear one item up, this membership does include access to country club pools. One of our favorites is Mallory. Here is MY math, maybe flawed, if so I am sure I will hear it....

My wife and I both play championship courses.

Cost for priority, all clubs: $925, this costs includes trail fee which we would buy for $141.25. We would buy the trail fee regardless....

So actual cost for priority is: $784 (rounded).

It is a savings of $15 per round during high season from 1/1 - 4/30.
There are about 17 weeks during this high season.

How many rounds do I need to break even during this time?
$784 / 15 = 52 rounds.

How many rounds per week is that during high season?
52 / 17 = 3.

My wife and each play twice a week. I have already more than justified my priority membership and am only looking at high season. We play all fall also....

And I get pools with happy hour and I get preferred tee times and I get mens day and I get tournaments......

I think that is right, hope it helps...

Agree....and it's even better if you are here year round. :clap2:

PaPaLarry 05-02-2013 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ncr2482 (Post 669713)
A couple of other benefits for priority membership. It allows you to play mens/ladies day on championship courses and you can sign up for tournaments before non-priority members. Not a big deal, but also provides a discount for your GHIN membership.

And also can play on Mens day and Ladies Day tournaments each week.

Warren Kiefer 05-02-2013 08:02 AM

Men and ladies day
 
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Originally Posted by PaPaLarry (Post 669930)
And also can play on Mens day and Ladies Day tournaments each week.

Why are the Mens and ladies day limited to ONLY priority members when both are nearly defunct at Orange blossom, Hacenda and Tierra Del Sol. It
is a normal mens day at TDS when only 4 or 5 men sign up for the mens day tourney. For obvious reasons the golf division is perfectly happy to see mens and ladys day go into extinction along with the dodo bird.

rhredd1654 05-02-2013 02:39 PM

My golf group had to split up, priority and non-priority, because we could not get tee times. Stated elsewhere, for the economics to make sense you need to play a minimum of twice a week. When assigning tee times, a priority member is assigned a "1" and a regular member "6". The lower number gets preference. My only objection to the priority membership is inclusion of the executive course trail fee. When I play executives, I walk, so I'm being charged an additional $142 for which I receive no benefit.

justjim 05-02-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rhredd1654 (Post 670261)
My golf group had to split up, priority and non-priority, because we could not get tee times. Stated elsewhere, for the economics to make sense you need to play a minimum of twice a week. When assigning tee times, a priority member is assigned a "1" and a regular member "6". The lower number gets preference. My only objection to the priority membership is inclusion of the executive course trail fee. When I play executives, I walk, so I'm being charged an additional $142 for which I receive no benefit.

:gc: The trail fee also allows you to use your cart on the Championship Courses. Otherwise, you would have to rent a cart at a substantial cost. Of course, obtaining a priority membership (from an economic point) depends on how many rounds you play...... It is fairly easy to figure based on your individual situation. If money is no object then you just pay and enjoy the convenience and benefits of your priority membership regardless of the cost/benefit analysis based on just economics. FORE!

John_W 05-02-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 670279)
:gc: The trail fee also allows you to use your cart on the Championship Courses. Otherwise, you would have to rent a cart at a substantial cost...

I don't believe that is correct, I'm not a priority member and I use my Yamaha gas cart twice every week on championship courses. I played just yesterday at Glenview teetime 12:36 Fox Run/Stirrup Cup and I only payed the $20 green fees. They do have those white rental carts, they are listed on the rate sheet at $10 per person for 18 holes.

Most of the time I play mostly championship courses and normally after 11am, so the Priority Membership from May 1st to Oct 15th would only save $3 off your round of golf. I really don't see any need for a 12 month memberhip, six months for Oct to April works out best.

Yes, the membership would save your trail fee on the executive courses, but I found when playing executives I usually walk, because riding in a cart for such a short amount of golf makes it feel like I didn't do anything. Plus, it is good exercise, I have a nice Clicgear push cart and the fellow I play golf with uses a small carry bag. For waking or using a push cart there is no trail fee, it's absolutely free golf.

Take out a six month Priority Membership late October, that's what I did last year. If you're a single, I found that if you play a championship twice a week during the peak season you will come out $100 ahead. If you play three times or more a week, that's when it really starts to pay for itself.

Bogie Shooter 05-02-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 670279)
:gc: The trail fee also allows you to use your cart on the Championship Courses. Otherwise, you would have to rent a cart at a substantial cost. . FORE!

I do not understand what this means. Do you have some documentation supporting this statement?

uujudy 05-02-2013 10:24 PM

Remember, with the priority membership you can also use the CC pools.
CC pools = Food & beverage at the pools! Just think about sittin' in the sun with a Mallory veggie pizza and an ice cold pitcher.
I vote for the Priority Membership. :thumbup:

PaPaLarry 05-03-2013 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 669655)
i can only speak for myself but I found after 6 years of priority I was wasting my money. Stop and think of how many rounds of golf you could play with an additional $4800.

Priority is good if you play at least 66 times a year. Priority is good if other members of your group are also priority members but it mean little if your the only one holding priority.

Priority operates as

priority-priority
priority-guests
priority-resident
resident-guests.

In retrospect it was a poor economic decision by me, for me.

Most of my friends golf off campus most of the time. Many rsidents I know do not play the championship courses in the winter because of competitive rates.

Sometimes its nice to play other courses outside The Villages, but I like the idea of leaving my garage in a golf cart, (with a cup of coffee and radio playing) riding to the the course, and meeting all my friends. That alone puts a smile on my face! I think the convenience, of having all these courses, just a golf cart drive is a big plus!!

PaPaLarry 05-03-2013 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 670030)
Why are the Mens and ladies day limited to ONLY priority members when both are nearly defunct at Orange blossom, Hacenda and Tierra Del Sol. It
is a normal mens day at TDS when only 4 or 5 men sign up for the mens day tourney. For obvious reasons the golf division is perfectly happy to see mens and ladys day go into extinction along with the dodo bird.

I know Mens Day @ Havana,Mallory, & Cane each week, draws over 100 to 150 players each week??? Each week its at a different course and format. Theres always one staff worker devoted to just posting scores etc as the cards come in. They do a fantastic job. They do all the posting of scores also to your handicap ghin card.

Ooper 05-03-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 670279)
:gc: The trail fee also allows you to use your cart on the Championship Courses. Otherwise, you would have to rent a cart at a substantial cost.

This is incorrect. Priority membership includes your trail fee for executive courses, not championship courses. You do not need a trail fee nor do you have to rent a cart for championship courses.

mulligan 05-03-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 670289)
I do not understand what this means. Do you have some documentation supporting this statement?

I have done this quite a few times...trail fee covers all courses.

rubicon 05-03-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 669866)
For ten years I and my wife were priority golfers. About six years ago I became disillusioned with the priority program.We found that even with priority membership it was getting more and more difficult to get tee times.The final straw was when I conducted a personal survey of the geen fees in the area. I did my survey in March, (high season). I collected the green fee cost for 23 local golf courses. I was astonished when I concluded that for a resident, the six most expensive courses within 25 miles were those in the Villages. I just feel that we as Residents, that we who support the Villages in so many ways, primarily golf, should be given something in return for this support. I know some will comment that in Chicago Illinois the green fees are double what they are in the Villages. First the golfing season in Chicago only lasts 7 months at best. Basically the courses up north must develop income in seven months what the Villages develop in 12 months. And lastly, what the courses in California, Maine or wherever charge has no revelancy to what the Villages area courses charge. Like apples and oranges. I play in the Villages during the summer low cost season and outside the Villages the remainder of the year.

Bingo you can usually find tee times on championship courses. The primary impetus is if more than one resident is a priority. If you alone are priority well then priority as to priority tee times diminishes.

I was also put out that priority guests received priority over residents, residents of whom have a heavy financial stake. the reasoning was clear but the practice in my view punitive.

I guess priority cost me $4800 in 6 years. At $40 per round which is high off campus for most courses I could have played 120 times...and many of those courses offer free beakfast/lunch or both

Pools are an additional cost under the priority program.

I like filet better than baloney too but it doesn't necessiate spending anymore for the filet than I need to. Who knows I mean actually live longer than predicted in my retirement plan and I want to be able to eat filet until the day I die and not forced to eat baloney..althought there is nothing wrong with baloney

spk7951 05-03-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Warren Kiefer (Post 669866)
For ten years I and my wife were priority golfers. About six years ago I became disillusioned with the priority program.We found that even with priority membership it was getting more and more difficult to get tee times.The final straw was when I conducted a personal survey of the geen fees in the area. I did my survey in March, (high season). I collected the green fee cost for 23 local golf courses. I was astonished when I concluded that for a resident, the six most expensive courses within 25 miles were those in the Villages. I just feel that we as Residents, that we who support the Villages in so many ways, primarily golf, should be given something in return for this support. I know some will comment that in Chicago Illinois the green fees are double what they are in the Villages. First the golfing season in Chicago only lasts 7 months at best. Basically the courses up north must develop income in seven months what the Villages develop in 12 months. And lastly, what the courses in California, Maine or wherever charge has no revelancy to what the Villages area courses charge. Like apples and oranges. I play in the Villages during the summer low cost season and outside the Villages the remainder of the year.


Couple of years ago I started playing off property, in the winter, twice a month and then twice a month on property. Most I have payed off property is $41 and I have found the courses in better condition than in TV. During the summer months, with the lower rates, I will play 18 once a week and then nine championship maybe three times a week. Doubt I will ever get a priority membership. Rates here in TV are higher than most in our general area and I suspect folks in charge believe they have a "captive audience". If folks want to pay the extra that is fine, I prefer to split my time.
In case you have not seen it yet the new rate sheet already shows a $1 increase on most of the championship courses for next winter.


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