Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 758669)

These are not just a bunch of kids dancing in a conga line. In fact, I've just been told they were caught trying to break into the sales office.

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 758669)

I've been to the square when these kids were there. The kids I saw weren't there early in the evening, when the music and dancing was going on. The kids that I believe are being referenced, I don't believe live in The Villages, I would hardly think they work in The Villages, and I highly doubt they are spending any money in The Villages.

Most of them were milling around the parking lot. In fact, I drove down there in my own cart with my 40 year old daughter, to see a movie and someone walked us out, to pick up my cart to go home.

These are not just a bunch of kids dancing in a conga line. In fact, I've just been told they were caught trying to break into the sales office.

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 758669)

I've been to the square when these kids were there. The kids I saw weren't there early in the evening, when the music and dancing was going on. The kids that I believe are being referenced, I don't believe live in The Villages, I would hardly think they work in The Villages, and I highly doubt they are spending any money in The Villages.

Most of them were milling around the parking lot. In fact, I drove down there in my own cart with my 40 year old daughter, to see a movie and someone walked us out, to pick up my cart to go home.

These are not just a bunch of kids dancing in a conga line. In fact, I've just been told they were caught trying to break into the sales office.

Originally Posted by Bexter (Post 758289)

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The Wild Wild West

October 4, 2013 By Ryan Erisman

I was down in Brownwood the other day and I was kind of surprised how empty it is still. Don’t get me wrong, its going to be AWESOME when its done, and I know everything takes time, but I thought it would be a little further along than it actually is.

Until it does fill up, there are going to be some issues.

Interestingly on the very same day I went down to Brownwood a reader sent me this…

Can you give me your perspective on why The Villages allow a mob of teenagers to run wild through the square after dark?

Last Saturday my family came to visit us and we chose City Fire in Brownwood for dinner. From 8:30 to 10 pm we watched about a dozen kids run from across the street from the Sales office and the park bench next to City Fire. There were three police officers and a few Villages trucks patrolling but did nothing to move the kids out of the square. I viewed two of them trying to open the door of the Sales Office and one boy punch a girl in the head with his fist. The whole scene sickened me as this was my biggest concern moving to Brownwood last week.

I tracked down one officer and asked why he allowed these kids to roam freely in The Villages, supposedly an area for adults 55 and over. He said he couldn’t do anything about them yelling and running through the streets because it wasn’t a crime. When told about them trying the doors and the assault on the girl, he said he didn’t see it so he couldn’t do anything about it.

I feel like I made a big mistake buying near Brownwood and do not feel as safe as I was told by many people. If anyone can come into The Village’s Squares, what’s from stopping them from entering our homes?

Also this week, ************** reported that golf clubs valued at more than $2,000 were stolen from two golf carts Monday evening while the golf carts were parked at Evans Prairie Country Club, the newest and southernmost country club in The Villages.

It sounds very much like the Wild West in the south end of The Villages at this point.

Now of course it will get better as time goes on and Brownwood becomes more populated and established, but how long will that take and at what inconvenience to early residents?

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 758692)

Kids trying to break into the sales office, I didn't see. I believe it came from the write up that has been posted. My husband turned around and told me about it as I was typing this.

The kids I saw when I was at the theater, I personally saw. I didn't feel like they were there to enjoy the dancing at the square and in fact, it was after 9:00 PM when I saw them. I didn't see any police, but it was a couple of months ago.... maybe they are there now.

To be honest, I don't care if you believe me. I just wanted to report what I saw when I was there. *shrug*

I didn't feel safe that late at night parked off the square.

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 758669)

I've been to the square when these kids were there. The kids I saw weren't there early in the evening, when the music and dancing was going on. The kids that I believe are being referenced, I don't believe live in The Villages, I would hardly think they work in The Villages, and I highly doubt they are spending any money in The Villages.

Most of them were milling around the parking lot. In fact, I drove down there in my own cart with my 40 year old daughter, to see a movie and someone walked us out, to pick up my cart to go home.

These are not just a bunch of kids dancing in a conga line. In fact, I've just been told they were caught trying to break into the sales office.

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 758692)

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To be honest, I don't care if you believe me. I just wanted to report what I saw when I was there. *shrug*

I didn't feel safe that late at night parked off the square.

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 758692)

Kids trying to break into the sales office, I didn't see. I believe it came from the write up that has been posted. My husband turned around and told me about it as I was typing this.

The kids I saw when I was at the theater, I personally saw. I didn't feel like they were there to enjoy the dancing at the square and in fact, it was after 9:00 PM when I saw them. I didn't see any police, but it was a couple of months ago.... maybe they are there now.

To be honest, I don't care if you believe me. I just wanted to report what I saw when I was there. *shrug*

I didn't feel safe that late at night parked off the square.

Originally Posted by ajbrown (Post 758716)

I have no facts of any of the things in this thread personally. I just wanted to comment that I have seen enough of your posts to put some weight behind what you felt. Whatever the details, I am sorry that happened to you.....

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 758718)

Would you feel the same way at LSL and Spanish Springs? Or, for that matter leaving a store at the mall on 441/27?

Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 758753)

I am reluctant to post on this but I will just say::::
If a person or persons is acting suspicious rather 8 or 80, investigate, but DO NOT LET IT CONTINUE. If it looks like a duck, well you know.

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 758757)

Yea: Stand Your Ground!

Originally Posted by Stdole (Post 758764)

I find the original complaint on the mark... I have seen trouble just waiting to materialize .... Stop this behavior now! Or we will not be going to the square!
I have seen minor bad behavior myself and even cross the street to avoid them.. This is quite sad seeing this in The Villages our last place (we thought)

Do not make excuses ... "This occurs everywhere". Or. "Kids will be Kids". Or
"I don't see the problem from where I am standing or live".

Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 758753)

I am reluctant to post on this but I will just say::::
If a person or persons is acting suspicious rather 8 or 80, investigate, but DO NOT LET IT CONTINUE. If it looks like a duck, well you know.

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 758757)

Yea: Stand Your Ground!

Originally Posted by angiefox10 (Post 758726)

I don't know and I don't care why people want to ignore that there could be a problem. There may not be.... I don't know.

Regardless.... when you go to the square, until they figure out what is going on... just be watchful. If you are a female, park your car/cart in the square if you are planning on returning to it late at night.

Originally Posted by Bexter (Post 758767)

Thank you, angiefox, for sharing what happened to you.

Why would you people infer that angiefox was lying? She lives in TV and she loves TV.

I think it's good to be REALISTIC. The Villages is a wonderful community and a great place to live. It's pretty close to perfect - for a community with over 100,000 people. However, it does border on a city that maybe isn't quite as perfect as TV. I don't know of any city that doesn't have problems and Wildwood (for as nice as it is), has their problems.

Since I was the one who posted the article about "The Wild Wild West" yesterday (was it just yesterday?), I want you to know that I am not one to spread unnecessary rumors. I didn't take writing that post lightly.

I received that "Wild Wild West" article from one of TV Security Guards who is a friend of mine. Within the past hour, I asked him about the validity of that article and he said it was truthful. He said a lot more........and it wouldn't be prudent to post it. I think you've heard enough. However, perhaps if Janet Tutt wouldn't be so lax, things might improve. We, the residents of TV, should demand better.

My personal experience. I had the side of my car scratched by a key while I was at Brownwood.

I also went inside the Sales Center and asked why they no longer have that one "saddle seat" in the fake bar area that's so cute. The sales people said some kids came in and ruined it. It's gone.

I know you don't want to hear that there is a problem. But isn't it better to know now and do something about it? You people did something about that Wall.

Originally Posted by Bexter (Post 758767)

Thank you, angiefox, for sharing what happened to you.


. However, perhaps if Janet Tutt wouldn't be so lax, things might improve.


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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 758728)

If there is one thing I have learned in life it is to listen to my gut (intuition)!

Check out what this guy had to say. Apparently Oprah liked the book. The Gift of Fear - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 758797)

Personally, I think curfews are in order in communities that want them.

I could see having a curfew of 9:30pm at the squares (or the last movie time). Once the bands are done playing, there's no reason for teens to be there (except exiting the movies).

Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 758790)

I am sure that anti-Janet Tutt comment was made by some POA groupie that is never satisfied with anything ( especially anything pro-Developer).

Sounds as they would rather move away but yet they stay. What is the word for that?

Originally Posted by Pepperhead (Post 758819)

Who would impose the curfew?

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 758564)

One solution if the above are your goals is to either not move to TV or don't leave your house. And a real gated environment is not practical/or affordable and does nothing for controlling who is in the squares.

When one completely loses tolerance and patience for youth they have reached an age much older than the number on their birth certificate.........plus losing out on so much the world of youth has to offer.

The isolated incidences of "packs" of teens in TV is just that.....an isolated incident

btk

Originally Posted by Peachie (Post 758758)

Probably scarier than any teenagers in the Squares are all the old men living in The Villages at the Squares packing heat and drinking . :shocked:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 758665)

we do have an element of snobbery (for lack of anything better to lable it) here in TV that seems to have certain measurements of certain areas to look down on, like Wildwood and Fruitland Park.

The knowledge of these areas is second through 25th hand....no real experience.

Some of us as kids lived in areas that would aspire to that of the good people of Wildwood and Fruitland......probably more than most would admit.

Just remember for the imagined "bad" you all have of these areas just try to remember that most....95% or more are good wholesome folks with kids, grand kids and retirees that look and act no differently than where most of us came from.

How do you measure these folks when you are in church? Is it OK there too to have an uppety attitude of folks who either may not have what some of us are fortunate enough to have or may have chosen to not be where such attitudes of one's fellow man reside????????

Lighten up....they are your neighbors and would help you in a heart beat....set rumors, old maids stories, BS and prejudice aside....when you are in the shower you look just like they do.....;)

btk

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 758797)

Personally, I think curfews are in order in communities that want them.

I could see having a curfew of 9:30pm at the squares (or the last movie time). Once the bands are done playing, there's no reason for teens to be there (except exiting the movies).

Originally Posted by PaPaLarry (Post 758899)

:popcorn: Excuse me!! Would someone pass the popcorn please!!!!:popcorn::popcorn:

Originally Posted by Hopeful2 (Post 758251)

I just read today a disturbing report about Brownwood ...kids/teenagers running around in Brownwood in the evening ... acting less than appropriate and Villagers feeling less than safe in that area at night. Please say it isn't so.