Morris Blvd. in Spanish Springs
 

Morris Blvd. in Spanish Springs needs help with the popular expansion yet all needs are going to the new development area only. Traffic is outrageous and so dangerous for golf carts. Morris needs to have a separate golf cart path and a tunnel by the 466 gate. But no, they just build another golf cart bridge over Rt. 44. For what? To bring them into the Brownwood small center? Are TV residents funding this? Let's get the developer to fix what is broken first.

Yes, I corrected that in my second post.

That is how it was built. That is how it was when you bought there. As The Villages grew "they" became better at what they were doing.

I don't understand whose money would build those separate golf cart paths although it is a very good idea and you are right about it being safer.

I don't want to pay for it, do you? I doubt the developer wants to pay for it either. Things don't just don't happen and the developer is not our mother.

[QUOTE=graciegirl;1720252]The Villages News is not "The Sun". Many opinion pieces are just that.[

All opinion pieces are just that. That is why they are call opinion pieces.

We've lived here 10 yrs and use Morse on a regular basis...though we don't live north of 466. I agree that traffic is dense and if "the developer" had had a crystal ball to look into the future they'd have designed things along Morse differently. I just traveled the length of it from 466a to 441/27 yesterday and traffic ALL over was crazy dense. I notice folks not paying attention as well as being impatient. People both in their golf carts and vehicles do crazy, idiotic things. I don't "get" the going out around a golf cart (over the center line) to pass them when they're clearly in their own diamond path. That said, I also don't "get" golf cart drivers straddling their line while in the diamond path or weaving over it. There are many behaviors we all can observe but that said...just pay attention to what you, yourself is doing and you will be fine. As for putting "special attention" to the new part(s)...I only see some of that as improvements. Do you remember when North Morse was worked on about 8 or 9 yrs ago? THAT was a night-mare. IF there was an easement for making a safe golf-cart path I'm sure that we'd have single-lane traffic and NO golf-cart traffic going on there for months. I would suggest---maybe plan your trips accordingly, take your time as well as a deep breath and just relax in your retirement years.

Boom 💥! Head ‘em up, move ‘em out. I-75 can move them north and south.

Actually I am quite happy with my own opinions. I expected to be insulted because there is always some (insert your own expletive here) that feels required to insult and invite anyone that is not 100% happy with TV operations to leave. Seen this circus a few times.

Failure to follow instructions. You get an F

The developer is nobody's rich uncle who's promised to take care of your every need. It's not the developers responsibility or problem, that all now belongs to the County to address and maintain.

Once the county owns the road, regardless of who originally built it, it is their to maintain alone and expand as needed to carry any additional traffic that may result form additional development that they approve. These are the earmarks for the impact fees and county property taxes we all pay.

The developer has no responsibility or obligation to go back to any area that's completed and do more. There was no preternatural wet-nurse clause in your home sale contract. Many in the norther part of The Villages feel the developer has abandoned them. No, they've done their job, sold their properties, and have moved on; if you want anything else now you have to go to the local government. That would be your CDD or the County and be prepared to open you wallet and wake up to the real world.

Let me put it another way. Tomorrow, in the mail, you will receive a letter from the person who bought your previous home 5, 10, or 15 years ago, take your pick, when you moved to The Villages. In their letter they are demanding that you now fix the roof that is leaking, since you built the home you must therefore be forever responsible for it. They also demand that you now install a pool, because their family has grown and their children want one. How do you respond to this letter? I laugh at mine and feed it to the shredder. How do you think the developer reacts to the demands to build more amenities or widen-fix roads? Pretty much the same.

What's broken outside of what they own isn't their problem. Who's paying for the bridges? Easy, it's part of the bonded infrastructure going in in the new CDDs, nobody north of SR44 is paying anything for it, the residents of CDD13 will pay for the bridges as a component of their bond.

I love living in our little bubble, but that doesn't mean I have forgotten, like many, how the real world still works.

It is my understanding that the Developer owns the Championship golf courses and retail space (retail buildings in squares and retail space in Village owned retail centers) north of 44. That's it. Executive golf courses, common area maintenance, golf cart paths, etc. are maintained by the Districts. The Developer doesn't own it... So if you want any improvements the Districts will pay for it. So YOU will have to fix what is broken...

Up north our community grew like crazy and the streets got crowded. The "place" was indeed in demand. When we finally decided to move we made a ton of money on the sale of the house. We stopped complaining.

Here in the Villages our friends built in The Preserves for $680k and it would go on the market today for $1.1m. Two and a half years. Is that the trade-off that we are juggling?

Good news - we're in demand. Bad news - its going to be bigger down in the south? Could not find the editorial referenced.

We better learn to use less water and have greater patience
 

The water supply is not infinite so as the governors and water managers allow the uncheck development of homes and the extraction of millions of gallons of water a day to big corporations for export, we may find ourselves a bit on the dry side

You could, but according to the US Geological Survey, the Florida aqueduct is one of the largest in the world

Yep! :oops:

Yep...dead-on! :thumbup:

Close, but not precisely accurate. Exec's, common areas etc. are owned by One district. The VCCDD. The voting members of any district are the landowners within that district. The only landowner in the VCCDD is the developer. The VCCDD is the villages center community development district.

If not TV then who??
 

It's simple, if TV don't build in all the places then someone else will. Guaranteed!!! Who would you want to build?? TV or another group who would not build the same way. It's still nicer than most places isn't it??

I don't see it that way. Other folks that may build don't use Village assets.

I've stated before and will repeat here that the good news is that after all the bridges are complete and after a 4th town square is built TV will de facto become TV North and TV South. I will seldom have need to go to TV south. All TV assets will be stressed until that happens.

This is the problem with Florida, in general. They don't have much respect or regard for nature. It has no value to them, other than "how quickly they can strip it raw it and build retirement homes on it."

It's one (of several) reasons I don't like Florida. There are some things about Florida I like. But as a whole, I don't like the state.

In some states, there are land trusts - where the trust buys up the land, and prevents development on it. The trust serves as a conservation steward to ensure that nature is allowed to exist, unimpeded by government or anyone else.

I would like to see, five generations from now, kids who grow up knowing that "lakes" don't all smell nasty, are not all filled with "reclaimed water," and that weeds are part of what makes nature beautiful. I'd like for them to not need to go to a zoo to see the last living butterfly in the state. I'd like for them to know what trees look like when they're not pruned perfectly and precisely placed in their back yard. I'd like for them to know, and experience, the sights, sounds, smells of nature. This won't happen if we continue stripping the natural environment and replacing it with plaster houses and strip-malls.

"They paved paradise and put up a parking lot" is happening right here in the Villages. People older than I am, who have been living here for years already, know this song well and might even have protested against replacing nature with industry, in the 60's. The sad thing is that they're either a) not vocal here or b) have changed their minds.

Joni Mitchell and others are people I admired, growing up. It's just very sad to see that their message is obscured in the Villages - perhaps on purpose.

But yet you live here.


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A member of Mensa. What a great reply. How long did it take you to think of that. Wow All roads leave out of Florida.

I've read that 900 people a day move to Florida and guess what, you and your spouse are two of them and the wife and I make two more. Looks like we're part of the problem. Where are these 900 people a day supposed to live? I guess Florida could put up border control check points and not allow nonresidents into the state. Maybe develop a waiting list that only allows a new person into the state when a Florida resident dies or moves out.

You do know that most of the land The Villages is/was built on was agricultural land not pristine untouched wilderness. Much of the original land was watermelon farms. Have you even spent any time in the lower 44 before all the development. It is/was mostly cow pastures. The Hog Eye preserve and the nature area near the Fenney rec center have all kinds of free roaming wild live. Maybe you aught to come down here and check it out. I don't want to burst you bubble but Florida isn't any worse than any other state.

You're listening to the wrong people......Bob Dylan "The Times They Are A Changing" comes to mind.

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If you truly feel this way, then you don't have the foggiest clue about the development process in Florida.

An Environmental Engineer was in the office next to mine for 25 years. He supervised the environmental side of permitting for Pinellas County, Florida for that entire time period. I supervised the engineering side for the same time period. He would either fall out of his chair from laughing so hard at your rantings or from pounding his fists in anger at them...maybe both. To hear that a citizen of the state could know so little about what actually goes on but continue to rip the system anyway is simply hard to reconcile when you are so close to the actual process.

I know a lengthy description of the process wouldn't change your feelings one iota. But briefly and for the record, all development in the state must balance environmental issues with the engineering and development issues. The rules are rigid and strictly enforced. If anything is "stripped raw", then a very, very, VERY significant environmental compensation package is always a requirement. Always.

There you go with factual information. It has no place here :)