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Burnie 01-16-2023 09:10 AM

2004 Camilia in BonnyBrook owned by us since it was built ... no insurance claims, no "free roof". Had ASI insurance until 2020 when Progressive Insurance took over.

ASI premiums started at $591 (new house) and increased over the years to $1445 in 2020.

Then Progressive took over:
2021 $1814
2022 $2186
2023 $6630 (note that is three times the previous year)

I went ballistic of course and checked with the agency to be sure it wasn't some kind of error or scam, only to be "reassured" that the amount was correct.
Obviously, I'm going to shop around but my blood pressure is still up, especially after reading posts in this string that show most increases to be no more than 10 or 15 percent. The premium is due March 5th.

Linnberg 01-16-2023 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by wpsabo (Post 2176142)
Just asking.....
And why did you get a new roof by only paying the amount of the deductible?
Just asking....
p.s. I have been using USAA for over 50 years. I have asked twice for a new roof, turned down both times.

Previous insurance company agreed it was needed.

OhioBuckeye 01-16-2023 10:04 AM

Any claim you turn in will raise everyone’s rates!

RIpswich 01-16-2023 10:33 AM

AAA Insurance DOUBLED
 
Premier Naches home. Last year insurance with AAA cost for home with 2 cars $6,220. Just received bill for 2023 - $12,339. Had AAA for over 10 years, never a claim of any sort. :confused:

Bill14564 01-16-2023 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynnesail (Post 2176281)
But why did the insurance companies approve these claim’s and then penalize US?

Usually because the company understands it is easier and cheaper to pay the claim than to be sued by the homeowner or the contractor and then pay both court costs and the claim.

We are not being "penalized" we are being asked to pay an amount that covers the cost of the claims in previous years and the risk that there will be more of the same claims in future years. If we make a legitimate claim in the future we want the company to have enough cash to pay our claim; the rising rates are what the company has determined it needs to be sure it can do that.

newgirl 01-16-2023 11:06 AM

Not for long..

newgirl 01-16-2023 11:11 AM

What is a amac membership?

newgirl 01-16-2023 11:16 AM

Wow, this is a first !

newgirl 01-16-2023 11:28 AM

Not all in The Villages have deep pockets, many are living off social security in the older sections .The insane raise in amenity fee's( mine went from $145-179 ) and insurance rates many will be forced to move. It is not right that The Villages promised me no more then 5% rate increase when I bought , then changed their minds. And insurance companies are doing very well , just look at what their earnings are so it is not a matter of need...both are just greed and because they can.

paulcallaway 01-16-2023 02:00 PM

Homeowners Insurance
 
I wish that I could say that you got a very high quote. But ours is about the same, and I did look diligently for a lower rate.

GatorFan 01-16-2023 02:08 PM

Research the companies. Many companies have gone bankrupt or pulled out of Florida completely. You may pay a little more but make sure the company is financially stable or you may go through searching for a company every year. New companies in Florida come in with lower premiums because they have no loss ratio in Florida. Within the year they are raising their premiums due to lots of claims.

TedfromGA 01-16-2023 05:34 PM

Consumer Reports ranks insurance companies
 
Based on approximate 60,000 insurance customers, Consumer Reports ranks USAA #1. The companies ranked #2 and #3 do not write insurance in Florida. The typical insurance companies most people use (including me) in The Villages rank in the middle to mid lower in the list of 24 companies

Robbb 01-16-2023 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2175746)
After that Special Session, Governor DeSantis signed SB 2-D which enacted pro-consumer measures to help alleviate rising insurance costs, increased insurance claim transparency, and cracked down on frivolous lawsuits which drive up costs for all Floridians.

In other words it gives the Insurance Companies a license to steal

How does cracking down on frivolous give insurance companies a license to steal?

dnobles 01-17-2023 06:25 AM

Us too$2669.00 WOW. Shopping today

eyc234 01-17-2023 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GizmoWhiskers (Post 2175956)
These statements above don't add up. I see no license for insurance companies to steal in here. What am I missing? He opened up competition. Lovin our Govenor DeSantis! OP get a another quote.

Senate Bill 2D, signed by Governor DeSantis today, enacts pro-consumer measures to help alleviate rising insurance costs, increases insurance claim transparency, and cracks down on frivolous lawsuits which drive up costs for all Floridians. Specific provisions to stabilize the market include:

$2 billion in reinsurance relief through the Reinsurance to Assist Policy (RAP) program to benefit policyholders over the next two years.
Requires insurance companies to file a supplemental rate filing once enrolled in the program to provide relief to policyholders.
$150 million for the My Safe Florida Home Program to provide grants to Florida homeowners for hurricane retrofitting, making homes safer and more resistant to hurricane damage, which can result in premium discounts for those who participate in the program.
Prohibiting insurance companies from denying coverage solely based on the age of a roof if the roof is less than 15 years old or if the roof is determined to have at least 5 years of useful life remaining.
Requiring insurance companies to provide policyholders with a reasonable explanation if they deny or partially deny a claim and provides consumers with greater access to information during the claim adjustment process.
Creating a new standard for application of attorney fee multipliers which have been liberally applied, resulting in increased costs to consumers.
Limiting the assignment of attorney’s fees in property insurance cases, disincentivizing frivolous claims.

:pray::pray: Proof is in the pudding. What they did was nothing and it is proved by the ever increasing premiums. If they were so concerned, from the governer down why did they not fix this 2 years ago.

Love2Swim 01-17-2023 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 2176663)
:pray::pray: Proof is in the pudding. What they did was nothing and it is proved by the ever increasing premiums. If they were so concerned, from the governer down why did they not fix this 2 years ago.

Exactly.

Aces4 01-17-2023 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eyc234 (Post 2176663)
:pray::pray: Proof is in the pudding. What they did was nothing and it is proved by the ever increasing premiums. If they were so concerned, from the governer down why did they not fix this 2 years ago.

Louisiana must be eating the same pudding to be in the same boat. I’m sure those huge losses have nothing to do with hurricanes, free roofs and a down stock market.

OhioBuckeye 01-17-2023 10:04 AM

Yea & nothing nobody can do about it. But I’m sure lots of people will just drop their home Ins. To many claims turned in & passed on to everyone else to pay the ones that turned in claims!

mstraveller 01-17-2023 01:31 PM

New Roof?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces (Post 2175735)
I would like to cancel and go "self insured"

Does your home have a new roof? What is difference with or without new roof. All the increase prices but no one mentions if they have a new roof?:

Papa_lecki 01-17-2023 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2175769)
The dramatic increase in home values also contributes to the increase.

And two years of 8 to 9% inflation to buy the items to rebuild.

Keefelane66 01-17-2023 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mstraveller (Post 2176797)
Does your home have a new roof? What is difference with or without new roof. All the increase prices but no one mentions if they have a new roof?:

My neighbor questioned replacing roof on his policy renewal quote by agent on policy would be $50.00 savings, roof currently 13 years young

Michael 61 01-17-2023 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bridget Eichaker (Post 2176047)
Michael wait until next year it will more than likely double

I’m sure - and I’ll cancel an shop elsewhere if/when that happens - but for the next year I’m happy.

rsimpson 01-17-2023 03:15 PM

94% Increase after first year of coverage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 2175733)
Have just received the renewal notice for Home Owners Ins. from Progressive.
Have had them since 2020. Never had one claim at all.
2020 Premium- $693.; 2021-$755.; 2022- $916.; 2023 Renewal Quote $1,883. WOW!!
105% Increase, for NO changes in coverage, and NO claims. Yes, TOTAL SHOCKER!!
No doubt hurricanes have affected this!
Is this what has been happening to Home Owners Ins. in T.V. and or all FL??
What have others experienced for rate changes??
Thanks for your replies.


YES - Just received my first renewal notice from Progressive - Up from $724 to $1399 - no changes to coverage levels or any claims. Outrageous they I / We have to pay premiums for the rebuilding of waterfront homes on FL coasts that we do not own or enjoy. Those wealthy homeowners should be covering their premiums on their own.

Flyers999 01-17-2023 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JWGifford (Post 2175999)
If you want to feel a little better, we live in Galveston, TX and pay roughly $6500/year for coverage of roughly $350k. Then add property taxes and we’re pushing $17,000 a year before we walk in the door. The Villages is looking pretty good.

Galveston is right on the coast. It takes us 50 miles to get to a large body of water.

The solution here is easy. We all have to go back to work. Anybody need a weed puller?

JMintzer 01-17-2023 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsimpson (Post 2176816)
YES - Just received my first renewal notice from Progressive - Up from $724 to $1399 - no changes to coverage levels or any claims. Outrageous they I / We have to pay premiums for the rebuilding of waterfront homes on FL coasts that we do not own or enjoy. Those wealthy homeowners should be covering their premiums on their own.

You must not have been watching television after the hurricane hit. Most of the "wealthy homeowner's" homes only sustained minor damage. It was the much older, less expensive homes that were completely destroyed...

lawngilander 01-17-2023 05:35 PM

Ins. policies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DALEPQ (Post 2175733)
Have just received the renewal notice for Home Owners Ins. from Progressive.
Have had them since 2020. Never had one claim at all.
2020 Premium- $693.; 2021-$755.; 2022- $916.; 2023 Renewal Quote $1,883. WOW!!
105% Increase, for NO changes in coverage, and NO claims. Yes, TOTAL SHOCKER!!
No doubt hurricanes have affected this!
Is this what has been happening to Home Owners Ins. in T.V. and or all FL??
What have others experienced for rate changes??
Thanks for your replies.

Tower Hill Ins. Last year-$495. Upcoming year-$1125!
I believe a lot had to do with people getting so called
"FREE" new roofs.

Flyers999 01-17-2023 05:49 PM

I'm sure some of you remember this when 16 years ago a thunderstorm spawned three tornadoes that swept through three villages. Even though The Villages got hit with 136-165 mph winds, no villager died. 20 people did die but they were in the surrounding trailer parks. Gives one pause when considering to self-insure.

The damage breakdown is here:

https://www.depts.ttu.edu/nwi/Pubs/R...AW-Florida.pdf

MX rider 01-19-2023 08:32 AM

We got our homeowners insurance renewal today. We own a 2 and 2 in TV, built in 09 with the original roof. It went up 21%. About what they said to expect. Yearly rate is now $1545. Just thjought I'd post since there seems to be a lot of discussion about this.

Btw, our friends snowbird in Bonita Springs and have a home very similar to ours in a plus 55 community 7 miles from the beach. He told me theirs went UP $2000. I didn't ask what he's paying, but if it went up that much it must be a lot. Plus, they can't even buy flood insurance. 5 years ago they got 2 feet of water in their house from Irma. But they lucked out this time and the water didn't quite get to them.

Velvet 01-19-2023 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2176421)
Any claim you turn in will raise everyone’s rates!

That is what group insurance is about, spreading the cost over the whole group of people. Now as an individual, I am paying a premium each year IN ORDER THAT when I need something fixed or repaired, the insurance company will cover. All the years I have made no claims I was subsidizing everyone else’s claims. When and if I need it, they will be subsidizing my claim. That is how I understand insurance to work.

inda50 01-19-2023 07:47 PM

Self insure
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces (Post 2175735)
I would like to cancel and go "self insured"

How do you " self insure" ?

M2inOR 01-20-2023 09:03 AM

Re: self insure...

To self insure, it means you have sufficient funds to pay for the repair of any damage.

Fine if you have no mortgage.

If you have a mortgage, your bank will not likely let you self insure. The home belongs to the bank until you've paid it off. They want their asset to be protected.

On the other hand if you have the resources, they'd want you to pay off that mortgage, unless you can find a way to guarantee that you can pay for repairs and convince the bank.

Same goes for any asset you've financed.

Don't forget about liability, if somehow your asset causes damage to another person or someone else's assets.

wlasowicz 02-10-2023 07:01 AM

I received my renewal from Progressive for the up coming year I knew it would be going up but a 80% increase whoa for a 7 yr old patio villa. I also read thru the coverage if I was understanding it correctly
the replacement value for just the home was listed about a $100,000 less than the average sale price for homes in my area.

retiredguy123 02-10-2023 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlasowicz (Post 2185693)
I received my renewal from Progressive for the up coming year I knew it would be going up but a 80% increase whoa for a 7 yr old patio villa. I also read thru the coverage if I was understanding it correctly
the replacement value for just the home was listed about a $100,000 less than the average sale price for homes in my area.

The insured replacement value doesn't include the value of the land.

Bay Kid 02-10-2023 08:27 AM

My agent in Virginia found insurance for my home here at a great price and coverage.

vintageogauge 02-10-2023 11:02 AM

I have 2 statements to make, we have had Progressive for 6 years this May and our premiums went up a little less than $500 over that 6 year period. I keep a higher deductible, $2,500 to keep the rates a little lower and our home is block with a true hip roof which does in fact help with lower premiums. That being said. Over the 55 years that I have owned homes, I doubt that I have had $1,000 in claims however the year before we moved down here I had 3 huge claims, one for a 30' long concrete porch holding up a roof that collapsed, a wind storm blue shingles off of the roof and the rain came right through it, and a sump pump malfunctioned while we were down here unloading furniture from our moving truck. All in all they totaled just under $80,000 in payments the insurance company made to the contractors on 3 separate claims and it did not affect any of our future rates. Moral of the story is if our rates go up in May I'm not going to complain too much.

cahvillage 02-10-2023 11:25 AM

Who is your carrier?

JoMar 02-10-2023 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 2176097)
You're kidding, right? Nothing has changed. Look at all the people that have had their insurance almost doubled. This was predicted when the law was signed. The bill props up insurance companies solely so they will keep writing policies in Florida. There were no requirements that rates would go down. The lawmakers also set aside another $1 billion in our money as a pool that insurance companies could tap to bolster the industry . The legislation also reduces the risk that insurance companies will be sued by homeowners. These are all measures that benefit the insurance industry, not the Florida residents.

The impact of the legislation will take several years to have an impact. Reducing frivolous lawsuits benefits he homeowner, not the attorneys. Not sure who predicted that insurance would double because of the legislation so if you could share that it would be appreciated. Another factor of rate impact is the reduced number of companies since many have left leaving the market and liability to a reduced pool. Also, why do people think that because they have no claims there should be a benefit?

Normal 02-10-2023 01:04 PM

Progressive Decreased Rates
 
We have had zero problems with Progressive. Are you in a newly designated flood plain? We are in the Villages south of 44 though. A 2200 square foot Gardenia is $930 annually.

Babubhat 02-10-2023 01:09 PM

Heritage and State Farm were the most reasonable of many quotes I received recently

HIgolfers 02-10-2023 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wlasowicz (Post 2185693)
I received my renewal from Progressive for the up coming year I knew it would be going up but a 80% increase whoa for a 7 yr old patio villa. I also read thru the coverage if I was understanding it correctly
the replacement value for just the home was listed about a $100,000 less than the average sale price for homes in my area.

My renewal for Progressive this year- premium went up 60% on a 5 1/2 year old house. No claims. Got quotes from 3 other companies- Allstate, State Farm and USAA. Even with Progressive’s increase, none of the others could match it so sticking with Progressive for now.


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