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Normal 10-10-2023 09:18 AM

Don’t even need a version
 
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Originally Posted by Justputt (Post 2264220)
I don't get the propane use when you can get NG versions of these generators and NG is at pretty much every house.

You don’t need any special version for natural gas or propane, just change the orifice. The conversion piece comes with the Gentech.

Bill14564 10-10-2023 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Justputt (Post 2264220)
I don't get the propane use when you can get NG versions of these generators and NG is at pretty much every house.

Pretty much every house *where*? No NG in my neighborhood

Vermilion Villager 10-10-2023 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2264207)
Your eyes *are* deceiving you. Those tanks are neither underground nor mounded.

From a quick look at a few links, that amount of propane would run the generator for 48-72 hours.

No they are not....Buried tanks are considered safer than above ground....and even those cannot be closer than 10'. (my other house is in Northern MN 18 miles from Canada and I have propane...I know the rules)
Using your "quick" lookup stats. If what you found is true, and he only has enough propane for 2 days of use then he is royally screwed!!! Think about it... In a major disaster that requires a generator to kick in do you really beleive someone's going to get a propane fill in 48hrs?!?!?!?!?:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Bill14564 10-10-2023 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2264231)
No they are not....Buried tanks are considered safer than above ground....and even those cannot be closer than 10'. (my other house is in Northern MN 18 miles from Canada and I have propane...I know the rules)
Using your "quick" lookup stats. If what you found is true, and he only has enough propane for 2 days of use then he is royally screwed!!! Think about it... In a major disaster that requires a generator to kick in do you really beleive someone's going to get a propane fill in 48hrs?!?!?!?!?:1rotfl::1rotfl:

The rules in northern MN aren’t applicable here. I would trust the Amerigas site and the installer.

48 hours is longer than any outage here that I am aware of. 48 hours is longer than I have. 48 hours might be a Florida requirement for certain care facilities and therefore a useful time to shoot for. 48 hours is a LOT longer than I would like to live without AC in a Florida summer.

Vermilion Villager 10-10-2023 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2264232)
The rules in northern MN aren’t applicable here. I would trust the Amerigas site and the installer.

48 hours is longer than any outage here that I am aware of. 48 hours is longer than I have. 48 hours might be a Florida requirement for certain care facilities and therefore a useful time to shoot for. 48 hours is a LOT longer than I would like to live without AC in a Florida summer.

These rules are a national standard.
You mention Amerigas. Fine.....here's from their website. They also state 10' rule. Also...the tank MUST be on a slab....clearly these are not! :ho:
All About Propane Tanks: Regulations, Sizes and Placement.

vintageogauge 10-10-2023 10:00 AM

It they ever have the need for rolling blackouts in this area one of those would sure be nice to have, expensive but nice.

Bill14564 10-10-2023 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2264233)
These rules are a national standard.
You mention Amerigas. Fine.....here's from their website. They also state 10' rule. Also...the tank MUST be on a slab....clearly these are not! :ho:
All About Propane Tanks: Regulations, Sizes and Placement.

How large do you think those tanks are? (Hint: much smaller than 2,000 gallons)

Highlight the section on smaller tanks and concrete slab please.

Justputt 10-10-2023 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2264227)
Pretty much every house *where*? No NG in my neighborhood

Interesting, as NG was the default (water heater, clothes dryer, stove) for our neighborhood. There's not even an outlet with the required power for an electric clothes dryer (cost extra to wire it in). Maybe this just a trend in newer builds or certain designs.

Normal 10-10-2023 10:23 AM

Entire Village has NG
 
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Originally Posted by Justputt (Post 2264237)
Interesting, as NG was the default (water heater, clothes dryer, stove) for our neighborhood. There's not even an outlet with the required power for an electric clothes dryer (cost extra to wire it in). Maybe this just a trend in newer builds or certain designs.

The Sawgrass area has natural gas. The small wall mounted heaters are income for our Defibrillator program. Volunteers clean them with a pump and vinegar for 50 dollar donations to the fund.

TEXJK 10-10-2023 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RRGuyNJ (Post 2264166)
Yep, ban generators that run a few minutes a week fir maintenance! Yeah, great idea!.
When the lights go out due to a storm, and it will eventually happen, you will wish you had a generator.

And the one’s complaining will the one’s knocking on your door Can we come sit in the AC lol

defrey12 10-10-2023 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2264020)
Should be reported to Community Standards its an obvious not to Florida Code.

Excuse me? How EXACTLY is it obvious? Do you have the codes in front of you? If so, do you actually know how to read them? Yeah, I thought so.

defrey12 10-10-2023 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2264023)
Can you post a link to that code so we all could understand it?

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defrey12 10-10-2023 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2264056)
It looks unsightly, but it is probably legal. I would be more concerned about the noise from the generator. I think these generators should be banned, especially in villa neighborhoods.

NO banning! There are these pesky things guaranteed by the constitution called PROPERTY RIGHTS. If they don’t violate the CCRs, then well within their RIGHTS! It never runs anyway (because we don’t have power outages) so what’s your “noise issue?”

kkingston57 10-10-2023 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bragones (Post 2264170)
Generators don't only run in emergency situations. They also run weekly to "exercise" them.

Agree and so do the mowers which are louder than these generators.

retiredguy123 10-10-2023 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2264233)
These rules are a national standard.
You mention Amerigas. Fine.....here's from their website. They also state 10' rule. Also...the tank MUST be on a slab....clearly these are not! :ho:
All About Propane Tanks: Regulations, Sizes and Placement.

The 10 foot rule only applies to tanks larger than 125 gallons. These appear to be 120 gallon tanks. Also, they are on a precast slab, similar to the slabs that HVAC units are placed on. They very well could be in compliance with the code.


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