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Bikehike 10-29-2022 09:51 AM

when do we pay the ad valorem taxes?

retiredguy123 10-29-2022 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bikehike (Post 2152310)
when do we pay the ad valorem taxes? they were not included when I paid the tax bill and the account shows no balance

The bill will be coming out on about November 1.

dewilson58 10-29-2022 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2152284)
More to help you sleep at night............
Finance Department | Wildwood Florida

BTW. Do you have a search engine?

You can lead a horse to water...................

rockyhyder 10-29-2022 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2152179)
Other than police protection, does anyone know what else Wildwood residents get for the extra $914 a year they pay that people living outside of Wildwood don’t pay?

Normally a city will provide police protection, garbage collection, water and sewer. Do you see Wildwood garbage trucks or Jacobs garbage trucks? Same with water and sewer.

Rainger99 10-29-2022 10:23 AM

Tax breakdown for Sumter.


County Millage Rate Information | Sumter County, FL - Official Website

Rainger99 10-29-2022 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bikehike (Post 2152310)
when do we pay the ad valorem taxes? they were not included when I paid the tax bill and the account shows no balance

Your tax bill should be broken down into parts. The top half says ad valorem taxes. These are county, Wildwood, and school taxes and they are based on the value of the property.

The bottom half says non ad valorem. This is the bond, the maintenance, and the fire assessment.

If you are new, you only pay on the assessed value of the land the first year. Enjoy it - they go up next year!!!

nn0wheremann 10-29-2022 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by VillagerNut (Post 2152189)
Your home in the Village of Charlotte is strictly in Sumter County. All homes south the 44 are in the city of Wildwood. But they use The Villages as their city. Unfortunately most people don’t know they pay additional city tax until they receive their tax bill. No additional services compared to what you receive. The Villages is not a city that is incorporated in the United States. Technically the United States post office just recognizes The Villages as a city.

Having our own ZIP codes gives Villagers breaks on insurance costs. Those accidents on 441 and 301 happen in the ZIP codes for Lady Lake and Wildwood, and thus don’t fall within the rating areas designated 32162 and 32163. Or so I was told by a retired insurance guy.

JGibson 10-29-2022 10:45 AM

Kinda weird that the Wildwood map goes up into Oxford.
Also if you work in the confines of Wildwood map do you they deduct for city of Wildwood tax?

Mrs.Guy 10-29-2022 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2152284)
More to help you sleep at night............
Finance Department | Wildwood Florida

BTW. Do you have a search engine?

:shrug: May not be firing on all cylinders........... :undecided:

Mrs.Guy 10-29-2022 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2152311)
The bill will be coming out on about November 1.

:ho: Found mine online yesterday and paid by e-check on the their site. Completely painless....... because both easy and more than $300 less than 2006 tax bill for the same home. :thumbup:

justjim 10-29-2022 12:40 PM

Wildwood taxes
 
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Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 2152258)
The developers encouraged Wildwood to annex the land. They wanted Wildwood to get boatloads of money so they would have money to fix up that town that had a very high rate of poverty at the time. They figured it is a gateway to TV and they wanted it brought up to a good standard. I do believe that much of the Villages south of 466A to 44 is also included.

Villages from 466A to 44 are not in the city of Wildwood and do not pay taxes to Wildwood.

retiredguy123 10-29-2022 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2152360)
Villages from 466A to 44 are not in the city of Wildwood and do not pay taxes to Wildwood.

Not if this map of Wildwood is correct. Apparently, there are a number of Villages houses near Brownwood, East of Buena Vista, and North of Rt 44 that appear to be in Wildwood. There are also some houses West of Powell Road near Brownwood that appear to be in Wildwood. Brownwood is also in Wildwood.

https://www.bing.com/maps?q=wildwood...ANAB01&PC=HCTS

Carol Fiore 10-29-2022 01:01 PM

Overtax by Sumter County PA
 
I moved from Collier(county) to Marsh Bend(city). We are taxed extra for City Tax. This is only one part of the problem. I just had a VAB (Value Adjustment Board) hearing on Weds. Sumter County uses The Villages Models to determine your tax rate. The Magistrate made the document public so now Sumter PA must tell you they are using the Villages Models to determine your taxes. They are now on notice to fix the Models. The Village sales offices are unaware they are using their models. Sumter PA uses The Models from The Villages brochure, and they never updated their charts. The Magistrate said he would consider prejudice against Sumter County PA if we can go in as a group. If you want to see the documents, please private message me and I will forward you the documents. My group DH72(models) may be overcharged by $400 to $700 a year. Sumter PA did not keep up with the models, so they added larger and more expensive homes to our group causing the standard models to be taxes at a higher rate. Here are the models that may be overcharged. Juniper, Putnam, Boxwood, Bridgeport, Livingston, Holly, Lantana, Orchid, Zinnia, Emmett and Redwood. This group is the highest taxed in Southern DH codes. Sumter PA were put on notice in 2020 by the Magistrate to fix this and they ignored them. It took them 2 years to admit they were modeling the homes. Once they put you on their system with the DH code, you will always be overcharged. I am still researching this issue. If anyone from this group would like to get together, please private message me and we can set up a meeting.

NOTE: I think every group might have this problem. I only researched my DH72 group. I believe Sumter PA has been overcharging the Seniors taxes for years. I do not see this occurring outside of our Senior development. I am only researching, and this is my opinion only. I need more information to support my theory. Your house is not compared to your block but to other models in the area. My Bank appraisal did not use my model, Zillow doesn't use my model and my Village Sales representative does not use my model for resale. I am appraised higher than other houses on my block even though they paid almost $100,000 more than me. I cannot sell my house for more than other houses, but I pay higher taxes.

champion6 10-29-2022 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 2152360)
Villages from 466A to 44 are not in the city of Wildwood and do not pay taxes to Wildwood.

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2152362)
Not if this map of Wildwood is correct. Apparently, there are a number of Villages houses near Brownwood, East of Buena Vista, and North of Rt 44 that appear to be in Wildwood. There are also some houses West of Powell Road near Brownwood that appear to be in Wildwood. Brownwood is also in Wildwood.

Three villa neighborhoods between 44A & 44 are in Wildwood: Alden Bungalows, Atwood Bungalows and Antrim Dells Villas. No villages homes north of 44A are in Wildwood.

champion6 10-29-2022 02:04 PM

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Attached is a detailed comparison of 2022 taxes for The Villages in Sumter, Lake and Marion counties.

Facts ... just the facts.

justjim 10-29-2022 02:11 PM

Taxes to wildwood
 
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2152362)
Not if this map of Wildwood is correct. Apparently, there are a number of Villages houses near Brownwood, East of Buena Vista, and North of Rt 44 that appear to be in Wildwood. There are also some houses West of Powell Road near Brownwood that appear to be in Wildwood. Brownwood is also in Wildwood.

https://www.bing.com/maps?q=wildwood...ANAB01&PC=HCTS

I stand corrected. There may be some homes/Villas near Brownwood in Wildwood’s tax jurisdiction. However, the vast majority of homes between 466A and 44 are not.

jimkerr 10-29-2022 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2152179)
Other than police protection, does anyone know what else Wildwood residents get for the extra $914 a year they pay that people living outside of Wildwood don’t pay?

It's the same as any other city in this country. The taxes pay for city government and services. Ex: The Police Department Our water comes from the city of Wildwood too so it's just like any other city where you pay taxes to them.

Rainger99 10-29-2022 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jimkerr (Post 2152401)
It's the same as any other city in this country. The taxes pay for city government and services. Ex: The Police Department Our water comes from the city of Wildwood too so it's just like any other city where you pay taxes to them.

Other than police, can you tell us what else we are getting for our Wildwood taxes? According to the City's website, they have a Parks & Recreation Department which offers a seniors program on Tuesday where you get Bingo, Arts & Crafts, Board Games, Movie Matinee, and a Lunch and Learn class offered by the University of Florida Extension Services.

Are Villagers who live in Wildwood better off than Villagers who live outside of Wildwood? It would be interesting for any of the Villagers who live outside of Wildwood to state whether they would like to be annexed by Wildwood.

They are also working on a Downtown Master Plan and a Strategic Plan.

https://www.wildwood-fl.gov/sites/de...h_appendix.pdf

https://www.wildwood-fl.gov/sites/de...tegic_plan.pdf

patfla06 10-30-2022 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hifred (Post 2151816)
My friend who lives in Marsh Bend and I (Village of Charlotte) were looking at our tax bills. We did a comparison of our Ad Valorem Taxes. Our first line was Sumter County, our next line was Sumter Co School Board, then hers had City of Wildwood (mine did not) and the next was SWFWMD. Our mileage and exemption is the same. However, she has $914.00 going to the City of Wildwood and I don't. So the Ad Valorem part of her tax bill is much higher despite our home values being similar. Do all of the homes south of 44 pay taxes to the City of Wildwood? Between 466A and 44 from Powell on the West to Morris on the East do all homes not have to pay tax to the City of Wildwood? What services do the homes that pay taxes to the City of Wildwood get that others in my section (466A - 44 and Powell Rd to Morris) not receive? I always thought that we were in Wildwood but on letters I give my address as The Villages but The Villages is not a city is it? Fruitland Park is in Lake County. So is the Village of Charlotte in a city other than being called The Villages?

Section 4 does have extra millage rate for the City of Wildwood.
I also think some homes just north of 44 might too.

LuvtheVillages 10-30-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JGibson (Post 2152333)
Kinda weird that the Wildwood map goes up into Oxford.
Also if you work in the confines of Wildwood map do you they deduct for city of Wildwood tax?

We are talking about property tax, not income tax. So, no deduction from your wages.

Bilyclub 10-30-2022 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2152405)
Other than police, can you tell us what else we are getting for our Wildwood taxes? According to the City's website, they have a Parks & Recreation Department which offers a seniors program on Tuesday where you get Bingo, Arts & Crafts, Board Games, Movie Matinee, and a Lunch and Learn class offered by the University of Florida Extension Services.

Are Villagers who live in Wildwood better off than Villagers who live outside of Wildwood? It would be interesting for any of the Villagers who live outside of Wildwood to state whether they would like to be annexed by Wildwood.

They are also working on a Downtown Master Plan and a Strategic Plan.

https://www.wildwood-fl.gov/sites/de...h_appendix.pdf

https://www.wildwood-fl.gov/sites/de...tegic_plan.pdf


Hell no x 2.

Hifred 10-31-2022 06:53 AM

The Villages is not a city.
 
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Originally Posted by msilagy (Post 2152182)
Yes The Villages is a city! On the weather map everyday.


Is The Villages a city or town? The Villages is an active adult community dedicated to people 55 and over. The Villages is a master-planned community, which means it is a residential area with a large number of recreational and commercial amenities.

The Villages is a census-designated place (CDP) in Sumter County, Florida, United States.

Hifred 10-31-2022 06:59 AM

The Villages is a census-designated place (CDP) in Sumter County, Florida
 
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Originally Posted by TC_Arch (Post 2152252)
How on earth can you buy a house and not know what city or county it is located in?

When we bought our home we were told that we were in an incorporated area. The Villages is not a city. The Villages is a census-designated place (CDP) in Sumter County, Florida, United States. I just wondered if it had incorporated into a city yet.

champion6 10-31-2022 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hifred (Post 2152812)
When we bought our home we were told that we were in an incorporated area. The Villages is not a city. The Villages is a census-designated place (CDP) in Sumter County, Florida, United States. I just wondered if it had incorporated into a city yet.

You might be in an incorporated area - Lady Lake or Fruitland Park or Wildwood. It depends on what village you live in. In which village is your home located?

The Villages has never become an incorporated city. I don't believe it ever will.

Rainger99 10-31-2022 02:17 PM

It seems that fairly soon, about 30% or more of TV will be in Wildwood. However, Wildwood was not as eager to have the Villages in 2015. The deal fell through to build 785 homes at 466A and Powell Road.

The Villages withdraws Wildwood plan

In 2015, Wildwood said that they wanted to keep their identity. Does anyone know why Wildwood became so Villager friendly a few years later?

Since that time, the Villages acquired 5600 acres in 2018, about 770 acres in 2018, and 642 acres were rezoned this year.

Bogie Shooter 10-31-2022 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2152982)
It seems that fairly soon, about 30% or more of TV will be in Wildwood. However, Wildwood was not as eager to have the Villages in 2015. The deal fell through to build 785 homes at 466A and Powell Road.

The Villages withdraws Wildwood plan

In 2015, Wildwood said that they wanted to keep their identity. Does anyone know why Wildwood became so Villager friendly a few years later?

Since that time, the Villages acquired 5600 acres in 2018, about 770 acres in 2018, and 642 acres were rezoned this year.

Not even my Magic Eight Ball could answer that question.:laugh:

Mrs.Guy 10-31-2022 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2153010)
Not even my Magic Eight Ball could answer that question.:laugh:

:wave: Want to use my Ouija Board? :beer3:

Nucky 10-31-2022 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2153010)
Not even my Magic Eight Ball could answer that question.:laugh:

Could it be $$ Money $$?? Maybe someone made someone else an offer they couldn't refuse. :blahblahblah:

BobnBev 11-02-2022 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2152982)
It seems that fairly soon, about 30% or more of TV will be in Wildwood. However, Wildwood was not as eager to have the Villages in 2015. The deal fell through to build 785 homes at 466A and Powell Road.

The Villages withdraws Wildwood plan

In 2015, Wildwood said that they wanted to keep their identity. Does anyone know why Wildwood became so Villager friendly a few years later?

Since that time, the Villages acquired 5600 acres in 2018, about 770 acres in 2018, and 642 acres were rezoned this year.

Greased palms-$$$$$$$$$-(not the tree).:thumbup:

BobnBev 11-02-2022 10:36 AM

My taxes went down by $124 this year.:girlneener:


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