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dewilson58 08-20-2021 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DIver0258 (Post 1991722)
Each new home owner pays a bond to the county for the infrastructure to build the homes in an area.

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charlie1 08-20-2021 08:01 AM

I am tired of hearing that the impact fees would reduce property taxes. By law, the impact fees are only available to fund improvements to the infrastructure, not maintenance. They have no impact on property taxes unless property taxes are used for improvements to infrastructure! What this means is that they can build NEW roads, widen old roads, change intersections to improve traffic flow, etc. with the impact fees. They can not use it to repave roads, fix infrastructure or perform maintenance to existing structures. Makes sense since the impact fees fund the growth and improvements required by development! The commissioner just voted to transfer the EXCESS fund (over $3 million) from this year into future years reserves for infrastructure. Every year in the last 4 years they have had excess funds due to impact fees. The reserve account is now over $12 million. Lesson that should be learned, before voting for inexperience people in government positions, do your research. They may not be able to deliver what they promise!

Bilyclub 08-20-2021 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie1 (Post 1991803)
I am tired of hearing that the impact fees would reduce property taxes. By law, the impact fees are only available to fund improvements to the infrastructure, not maintenance. They have no impact on property taxes unless property taxes are used for improvements to infrastructure! What this means is that they can build NEW roads, widen old roads, change intersections to improve traffic flow, etc. with the impact fees. They can not use it to repave roads, fix infrastructure or perform maintenance to existing structures. Makes sense since the impact fees fund the growth and improvements required by development! The commissioner just voted to transfer the EXCESS fund (over $3 million) from this year into future years reserves for infrastructure. Every year in the last 4 years they have had excess funds due to impact fees. The reserve account is now over $12 million. Lesson that should be learned, before voting for inexperience people in government positions, do your research. They may not be able to deliver what they promise!

Have you ever been South of 44? Millions of dollars spent on improvements of County roads. I think the figure tossed around is Sumter County is paying 110 million worth of road improvements.

Bilyclub 08-20-2021 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DIver0258 (Post 1991722)
Each new home owner pays a bond to the county for the infrastructure to build the homes in an area.

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1991764)
:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:


That statement alone shows you have no clue on how things work in TV.

Altavia 08-20-2021 10:00 AM

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Advogado 08-20-2021 10:04 AM

The Developer's supporters who attack the failure of the new Commissioners to increase the Developer's sweetheart impact fee to finance a rollback of our massive property-tax increase ignore reality. The failure is due to the campaign by the Developer to protect his impact fee. The campaign includes harassment of the new Commissioners through the Angeliadis fishing expedition, the attempts to find some violation of the Sunshine law, the packing of Commission meetings and of their parking area, propaganda in the Daily Sun disguised as news, and the use of the Developer's employee, Brett Hage, to enact state legislation crippling the ability of local governments to finance new infrastructure through impact fees.

The complaints by the Developer's supporters are reminiscent of the guy who kills his parents and then complains about being an orphan.

Advogado 08-20-2021 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by charlie1 (Post 1991803)
I am tired of hearing that the impact fees would reduce property taxes. By law, the impact fees are only available to fund improvements to the infrastructure, not maintenance. They have no impact on property taxes unless property taxes are used for improvements to infrastructure! What this means is that they can build NEW roads, widen old roads, change intersections to improve traffic flow, etc. with the impact fees. They can not use it to repave roads, fix infrastructure or perform maintenance to existing structures. Makes sense since the impact fees fund the growth and improvements required by development! The commissioner just voted to transfer the EXCESS fund (over $3 million) from this year into future years reserves for infrastructure. Every year in the last 4 years they have had excess funds due to impact fees. The reserve account is now over $12 million. Lesson that should be learned, before voting for inexperience people in government positions, do your research. They may not be able to deliver what they promise!

You are right about one thing, and one thing alone. The new Commissioners didn't deliver on the property-tax rollback. However, that is because the Developer used his employee, Representative Brett Hage, to sponsor legislation prevent the delivery by making it impossible to increase the Developer's sweetheart impact fee. The stench of what is going on here is overwhelming.

john352 08-20-2021 10:09 AM

2022 pirmary election
 
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1991589)
How does Rep Hage get away with such a massive conflict of interest?

For the 2022 primary election, we need a good candidate to run against Hage. We need someone who will not place any special interest groups above the majority of the voters.

dewilson58 08-20-2021 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by john352 (Post 1991906)
For the 2022 primary election, we need a good candidate to run against Hage. We need someone who will not place any special interest groups above the majority of the voters.

Kinda like was done for the County elections.

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dewilson58 08-20-2021 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1991901)
You are right. The new Commissioners didn't deliver on the property-tax rollback. However, that is because..........

they had no plan, they had no experience and are just now learning.

Welcome back, this topic brings you out of hibernation.

Advogado 08-20-2021 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1991908)
they had no plan, they had no experience and are just now learning.

Welcome back, this topic brings you out of hibernation.

They had a plan; they had the experience. They were beaten down by the economic and political power of the Developer.

Bogie Shooter 08-20-2021 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1991908)
they had no plan, they had no experience and are just now learning.

Welcome back, this topic brings you out of hibernation.

Hibernation? No, somebody moved a rock.

Advogado 08-20-2021 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by john352 (Post 1991906)
For the 2022 primary election, we need a good candidate to run against Hage. We need someone who will not place any special interest groups above the majority of the voters.

Absolutely right. We also need competent, independent Republican candidates to challenge Breeden and Gilpin-- if the Developer tells them to run again.

graciegirl 08-20-2021 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1991915)
They had a plan; they had the experience. They were beaten down by the economic and political power of the Developer.

That developer. He does one heck of a good job.

We are number one in this country. His team built homes and his family also built an ethical network of businesses that they have passed on to others. None have run them as well as The Morses. They don't seem to be in it for money. They have much more than they need. They must feel like my friends who are dentists, if they retire than the business might not be the same as when they run it.

My name is Grace Helene Gantner and I don't gain anything for supporting the Morses.

Except I get to LIVE here................

GPGuar 08-20-2021 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1991603)
I agree, we should thank Representative Hage and all the other legislators who did the right thing by passing the legislation. When you vote in inexperienced and patronizing Commissioners who are adept at making promises they knew they couldn't keep you need the Hages of the world who understand the negative impact they bring.

Yeah right, good joke!


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