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BobnBev 05-25-2025 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pondboy (Post 2433292)
We’re in the Fenney area as well and got one 2 yrs ago.

Pros ; better for skin, sudsier soap, minimal calcium buildup on shower, faucets, etc., better tasting water. Won’t need to use a water filter in your refrigerator.

Cons ; takes up room in garage, it’s an added expense, waste water needs to drain somewhere (hopefully not in a flower bed), need to buy salt / potassium (potassium more expensive), salt/potassium bags be heavy (40 lbs I think, they need to be added to unit). You’ll also need an electrical outlet to plug it into.

I think it was worth it.

Investigate Home Depot / Lowe’s for purchase as well as Nova and that other brand (can’t think of the name).

I love our NOVA. The only drawback is the 40lb bag once a month. Usually hurts my back. Very expensive.

Nana2Teddy 05-25-2025 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BobnBev (Post 2434060)
I love our NOVA. The only drawback is the 40lb bag once a month. Usually hurts my back. Very expensive.

You are likely using the potassium salt rather than the sodium. The sodium works great and is very cheap. I think less than $10/bag. The water tastes better too with the sodium IMHO.

Battlebasset 06-04-2025 10:12 AM

If the discharge from the WS was piped out the side wall of my garage, it would not be a long trip to discharge directly into my cleanout which is in the flower bed. Has anybody done this vs just letting it spill on the ground, or creating a drainage sump?

Topspinmo 06-04-2025 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2433261)
Water softener will make the soap in the shower go farther (you will use less).

When you mention flushing, you are referring to the toilet? The water softener has nothing to do with that, the flushing is caused by the water already in the tank and not the water coming through the pipes.

I don’t believe a water softener has anything to do with gunk in pipes. I can’t think of what it might do to cause that or prevent it.

We had one in MD but not here (Brownwood area). I notice the difference but don’t feel I need one here. Been here part time since 2018 and full time since 2020. Some small amount of mineral buildup but nothing significant. I like that I no longer need to worry about keeping salt in the tank or where the waste water is going.

He might take mirror and look at toilet bowl swirl holes. Maybe the are scaled up and affecting water flow? Which would probably happen every time IMO? Depending on toilet and what being flushed it may not be able to flush normally which seems he has occasional flush problems. I also agree water softener system not going help his flushing problems. I could also be vent problem or tank flapper hang up problem?

Topspinmo 06-04-2025 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nana2Teddy (Post 2434072)
You are likely using the potassium salt rather than the sodium. The sodium works great and is very cheap. I think less than $10/bag. The water tastes better too with the sodium IMHO.


Isn’t sodium bad for vascular system? Every one I even knew with high blood pressure was told to reduce sodium intake?

JMintzer 06-04-2025 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nana2Teddy (Post 2434072)
You are likely using the potassium salt rather than the sodium. The sodium works great and is very cheap. I think less than $10/bag. The water tastes better too with the sodium IMHO.

Exactly. Our Pegasus system was initially set up for Potassium. Unfortunately, it caused GI issues for SHMBO and for the dog.

When we had the system serviced, I asked about switching to Sodium. The tech said to just start using sodium and eventually, all of the Potassium would be flushed out of the system. No adjustments needed to ba made to the settings. Since we're still not full timers, the 40 lb bag lasts 4-6 months...

metoo21 06-04-2025 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Battlebasset (Post 2436612)
If the discharge from the WS was piped out the side wall of my garage, it would not be a long trip to discharge directly into my cleanout which is in the flower bed. Has anybody done this vs just letting it spill on the ground, or creating a drainage sump?

I'd say that is a bad idea. You'd probably have sewer gases backing up in your softener system. Pipe it to the curb? I wouldn't discharge it onto the driveway as sodium chloride will damage concrete over time. A drainage sump would need to very big as the system uses quite a lot of water during its cycling.


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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2436632)
Isn’t sodium bad for vascular system? Every one I even knew with high blood pressure was told to reduce sodium intake?

Yes it can be bad but there isn't a significant amount of sodium in the softened water to make a difference for someone - especially in the amount of water one would drink daily.

retiredguy123 06-04-2025 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by metoo21 (Post 2436697)
I'd say that is a bad idea. You'd probably have sewer gases backing up in your softener system. Pipe it to the curb? I wouldn't discharge it onto the driveway as sodium chloride will damage concrete over time. A drainage sump would need to very big as the system uses quite a lot of water during its cycling.




Yes it can be bad but there isn't a significant amount of sodium in the softened water to make a difference for someone - especially in the amount of water one would drink daily.

Piping it to the curb would require you to install underground pipe through the street right-of-way because you don't own the property all the way to the curb. You woud need permission from the county (or whoever owns the right-of-way) and I doubt that they would give it. Also, you would be discharging contaminated water into the street, which could be consumed by pets.

Battlebasset 06-06-2025 11:43 AM

[QUOTE=metoo21;2436697]I'd say that is a bad idea. You'd probably have sewer gases backing up in your softener system. Pipe it to the curb? I wouldn't discharge it onto the driveway as sodium chloride will damage concrete over time. A drainage sump would need to very big as the system uses quite a lot of water during its cycling.

Found this on the Pinellas government website:

Per Florida Building Code, household wastewater of any type (including greywater) must be discharged to the sanitary system. This includes water from sinks, tubs, toilets, water softeners, dishwashers, washing machines and floor drains.

If correct, then it seems it should discharge into a utility sink, or some other city sanitary system connection. Which I don't hear anyone doing.

Ruger2506 06-06-2025 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by chrisinva (Post 2433256)
We're thinking of getting a water softener installed. Spouse has heard about & is kind of worried about the build-up of gunk/scale in the pipes which could lead to (costly) repairs or replacement of current pipes. Heard the build-up of gunk/scale reduces the effectiveness of the flush function. About once every 10 days we might need to flush 2x.

House was built in 2019; we're the first owners, been here 6 yrs now, Fenney area. Only the two of us, each aged 70+. Plan on staying till ...we exit feet first.

What are pros & cons of a water softener? (besides having a hard time rinsing in the shower) Thanks!

There are no cons that I can think of. Not comparatively. The water here is some of the filthiest nastiest water I've ever drank. A whole house filter and water treatment system is a must here.

metoo21 06-06-2025 12:19 PM

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