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Arctic Fox 09-26-2021 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 2009104)
The enforcement is long over due.
Speed traps? The more the better.
Only those who are offended by enforcement are crying foul!!
Book 'em....the more the merrier.


Agreed - "if you can't do the time (bear the fine?), don't do the crime"

barbief 09-26-2021 07:18 AM

I am happy to hear this. There are so many people in too much of a hurry. Why? 5 miles over the limit is normally overlooked but 10 or more is a safety hazard to our community, especially on the roadways with walkers, cyclists and golf carts sharing the road. No need to drive that fast.

sallyg 09-26-2021 07:19 AM

I wish there were a few more speed enforcement areas. Many people drive very fast on Marsh Bend Trail it is dangerous and nerve wracking. Slow down folks, please.

BigSteph 09-26-2021 07:19 AM

They are setting up right before the circle where the motorcycle rider went through it and died this past summer. In this case, they are responding to that accident and several others from 301 to 501 on Warm Springs.

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Originally Posted by sam&rog (Post 2009041)
the roundabout at Meggison Rd is the scene of several accidents due to excessive speed. Enforcement appears to be the correct solution.


airstreamingypsy 09-26-2021 07:23 AM

To the OP, a police presence in known speeding areas is not a speed trap, it's good police work. Shame on you for giving speeders a heads up.

MrFlorida 09-26-2021 07:28 AM

Good, the more the better. People drive way too fast in TV. The speed limit is 35 on most roads, not 50.

b0bd0herty 09-26-2021 07:34 AM

[QUOTE=Penglobal;2009025]In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits...]

Ha. Yes you are. Poor guy doing 10 -15 over, perhaps 10 - 40 over. It does encouraging unlawful AND dangerous driving.

Let those who do the crime... pay their dime.

Wing-nut2 09-26-2021 07:49 AM

10 -15 over, poor guy, really. Is it still 15 over and you can be arrested for reckless driving?

DaleDivine 09-26-2021 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 2009025)
In no way am I encouraging dangerous or unlawful driving habits, but I have noticed several police speed traps, or better known as traffic enforcement areas popping-up within our community. There has been daily speed traps for the past two weeks on Warm Spring Avenue near Meggison Road which is just north of the Florida Turnpike. There has been increased police traffic enforcement during the weekdays and primarily during the afternoon. I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really.

Which other areas of our community should I pay special attention when driving? Always be safe and please drive safely.

I don't think the Morse's condone traffic stops because it might deter some prospects from buying here and gives them a black eye. They don't like bad publicity.
And on the other side of the coin people who see this happening will buy here because they fell this makes it a safer community.
:bigbow::bigbow:

DonH57 09-26-2021 07:53 AM

I wish LEO's would start making appearances on Enrique, Carzaraz, and Chapperell. No way most of these people are doing less than 45.

waterflower 09-26-2021 07:57 AM

If this community really cared about the issues that arise, all would be at the count/state door to improve the roads conditions.All roundabouts are not safe. This needs to be re-engineered. Go to the state or county to discuss removing all round-abouts.

B-flat 09-26-2021 08:04 AM

Too many people speed, there needs to be some kind of safeguards in place, if speed traps as they are called then so be it. Yesterday we traveled to SW Florida on i-75 I set my cruise at 70 MPH. Other drivers passed me as if I were standing still it’s nuts.

On other note this thread reminds me of Rt301 in Waldo Florida. Years back the local police force nailed people all the time because the limit would drop down to 25MPH in the town. As I recall they funded their entire department on the revenue from speeding tickets.

Waldo, Lawtey no longer speed traps, AAA says - News - Gainesville Sun - Gainesville, FL

Florida town infamous for speed traps disbanding police force - CBS News

Niferlou06 09-26-2021 08:05 AM

10-15 over the speed limit? Seriously, and you have no issue with this? Did you know, by law, if you are caught going 20 miles over you can be arrested on the spot?
Add the age of the driver, other influances, and Yes, 10-15 is an issue. Follow the laws!

graciegirl 09-26-2021 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 2009048)
I'm confident the guy I was referring to was pulled over for speeding. As I passed the cop who was stopped and concealed behind some trees in the grass medium, I could see his radar detector. I was driving exactly the speed limit and the poor guy who passed me was only going a little faster than me.

I 'm not for unsafe driving nor am I anti-cop, but the next time you drive a little over the speed limit and you get ticketed, I'm confident that you will immediately seek the guidance of a ticket-attorney and fight that speeding ticket to the best of your abilities. So please don't be a hypocrite and state that all violators most be cited.

Hmmm. And further MMMMMMMMM.. In our house most of the time we don't call them "cop". The guy "passed you, only going a LITTLE faster than me.".???? I was a mother and a teacher. ARE you sure you didn't get the ticket? Just wondering.

In my life I got two citations for speeding.

I was.

wisbad1 09-26-2021 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 2009028)
Don't speed.

You can drive drunk and get away with it, but don’t speed!!!

charlieo1126@gmail.com 09-26-2021 08:39 AM

There is no traffic survey that
 
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Originally Posted by waterflower (Post 2009313)
If this community really cared about the issues that arise, all would be at the count/state door to improve the roads conditions.All roundabouts are not safe. This needs to be re-engineered. Go to the state or county to discuss removing all round-abouts.

doesn’t have roundabouts much safer then 4 way stops and traffic light , and in a study of traffic flow in a 15?minute period 385 cars moved through a 4 way stop 460 moved through in the same 15 at roundabouts , there is nothing hard about navigating a roundabout they have been on main roads In Massachusetts since I started driving and that’s 1954 , for some reason many villagers won’t take 10 minutes to read how to do these simple traffic movements

ThirdOfFive 09-26-2021 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bowlingal (Post 2009267)
the golf carts should also be ticked for speeding....they go way over the limit of 20 mph

Absolutely. 95% of golf cart drivers are careful and courteous, but there are some cowboys out there that are a real danger.

Last week I was walking on the golf cart path that parallels El Camino Real. I always walk on the left side (I want to see what is coming toward me). I heard a cart behind me. All of a sudden there were TWO carts behind me. one passing the other. The moron doing the passing came so close to me that I could have reached out and touched his cart. He must have been going well over the 20 mph limit because it didn't take him long to disappear. I gave him the one-finger salute in case he was looking in his rear-view mirror.

toeser 09-26-2021 08:51 AM

"I saw some poor guy get pulled over for maybe going 10 - 15 mph over the posted speed limit. I understand he was speeding a little, but really."

What in your mind is required for a speeding ticket? Doing 100 in a 70 zone?

The people going 10-15 over the limit always expect you to clear the left lane for them even if it means you have to do a risky merge into slower right lane traffic. My attitude is "up yours." If I am in the left lane, I am going the speed limit or faster. I don't need to cater to every racetrack driver out there.

ThirdOfFive 09-26-2021 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by barbief (Post 2009283)
I am happy to hear this. There are so many people in too much of a hurry. Why? 5 miles over the limit is normally overlooked but 10 or more is a safety hazard to our community, especially on the roadways with walkers, cyclists and golf carts sharing the road. No need to drive that fast.

I remember a comment of my wife's when we first moved here. "What's their big hurry? They're RETIRED for Godsakes!"

Bogie Shooter 09-26-2021 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 2009305)
I don't think the Morse's condone traffic stops because it might deter some prospects from buying here and gives them a black eye. They don't like bad publicity.
And on the other side of the coin people who see this happening will buy here because they fell this makes it a safer community.
:bigbow::bigbow:

:what:
What does this have to do with speeding??

Bogie Shooter 09-26-2021 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by waterflower (Post 2009313)
If this community really cared about the issues that arise, all would be at the count/state door to improve the roads conditions.All roundabouts are not safe. This needs to be re-engineered. Go to the state or county to discuss removing all round-abouts.

Really, this was concluded since May?
BTW, ain’t gonna happen.

Marine1974 09-26-2021 09:10 AM

10 to 15 MPH over the speed limit and that’s supposed to be acceptable? No wonder the police are spending valuable resources to keep our streets safe and enforce laws .

doctorknow 09-26-2021 09:43 AM

Speed limits
 
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2009039)
Speed traps? Really?
Obey the speed limit you will not have a problem…….


I have NO ISSUES with law enforcement doing traffic stops for what is considered "speeding" However....I have lived in Florida for 37 years now with 9 in the villages and the issue I have a problem with is the way the traffic engineers set the speed limits on some of the roads. Not just in the Villages but in general across our fair state. Some of the speed limits are way to conservative and low. They impede traffic and actually set up unsafe conditions by encouraging speeding. Bless the police for enforcement for our safety but lets question how some of these "limits" are placed on roadways. What is the algorithm used to determine speed limits? Lets' explore the root cause of the issue.

gbs317 09-26-2021 10:05 AM

Can’t do the time… Don’t do the crime.

Penglobal 09-26-2021 10:07 AM

Once again, I am not condoning unsafe driving, but driving a few miles over the speed limit by a competent healthy driver is much safer than an old lady with pre-dementia, bad vision, slow reflexes and who drives a 1990 beat-up Chevy without tread on their tires.

There are many bad drivers throughout The Villages who drive both regular vehicles and golf carts that should not be on our shared roadways. If we all are so concerned about driving safely, then actual mandated driving test should be state mandated to those of us over a certain age limit or those of us deemed unfit to drive by their physician or close family member.

Unfortunately as we all get older, our driving skills begin to deteriorate and there are many older Villagers who should not be driving and I'd rather be driving next to a competent speeding driver than next to someone who can barely breath and see!

Arctic Fox 09-26-2021 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 2009422)
Once again, I am not condoning unsafe driving, but driving a few miles over the speed limit by a competent healthy driver is much safer than an old lady with pre-dementia, bad vision, slow reflexes and who drives a 1990 beat-up Chevy without tread on their tires.

Why do you see this as an either/or situation?

Neither is safe (safer is not the same as safe) and both need to be discouraged.

HORNET 09-26-2021 10:28 AM

Observe the speed limits, protect lives

GrumpyOldMan 09-26-2021 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by doctorknow (Post 2009408)
I have NO ISSUES with law enforcement doing traffic stops for what is considered "speeding" However....I have lived in Florida for 37 years now with 9 in the villages and the issue I have a problem with is the way the traffic engineers set the speed limits on some of the roads. Not just in the Villages but in general across our fair state. Some of the speed limits are way to conservative and low. They impede traffic and actually set up unsafe conditions by encouraging speeding. Bless the police for enforcement for our safety but lets question how some of these "limits" are placed on roadways. What is the algorithm used to determine speed limits? Lets' explore the root cause of the issue.

So, you vs traffic engineers that spend their life trying to save lives. Who should I believe... hmmm...

Always rolling 09-26-2021 10:36 AM

Speed traps! Not
 
As others have stated, it’s not unusual to have car’s going 50+ mph on TV streets, especially Morris. While on the District radio, I hear about several accidents where drivers have damaged or destroyed round about’s. Generally speed enforcement are set up where accidents have occurred due to excess speeding!

RayAmb 09-26-2021 10:42 AM

HOW ABOUT SOME HELP SLOWING DOWN SPEEDING ON PINELLAS BETWEEN BUENA VISTA AND 466A ?…. Residents can’t get out safely!

Joe V. 09-26-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wisbad1 (Post 2009337)
You can drive drunk and get away with it, but don’t speed!!!

Where does it say you can drive drunk? Do not speed. Do not drive drunk. Speeding is illegal. Glad they are paying attention to this issue.

Bogie Shooter 09-26-2021 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Always rolling (Post 2009441)
As others have stated, it’s not unusual to have car’s going 50+ mph on TV streets, especially Morris. While on the District radio, I hear about several accidents where drivers have damaged or destroyed round about’s. Generally speed enforcement are set up where accidents have occurred due to excess speeding!

Morris is a cat………..

graciegirl 09-26-2021 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Penglobal (Post 2009422)
Once again, I am not condoning unsafe driving, but driving a few miles over the speed limit by a competent healthy driver is much safer than an old lady with pre-dementia, bad vision, slow reflexes and who drives a 1990 beat-up Chevy without tread on their tires.

There are many bad drivers throughout The Villages who drive both regular vehicles and golf carts that should not be on our shared roadways. If we all are so concerned about driving safely, then actual mandated driving test should be state mandated to those of us over a certain age limit or those of us deemed unfit to drive by their physician or close family member.

Unfortunately as we all get older, our driving skills begin to deteriorate and there are many older Villagers who should not be driving and I'd rather be driving next to a competent speeding driver than next to someone who can barely breath and see!

You are 63. I read your other posts. One day you WILL be an 81 year old woman, like me. (Who does not drive because she had a heart episode that scared the misplaced eyebrows off her) No one said I couldn't.

My husband is still an excellent driver at 80.

Our car is not a beat up Chevy with bald tires. It is kept in excellent repair. My husband trims ALL of the bushes and trees around our lot and replaces sprinkler heads. I am so grateful for his good health.

I want you to tell me how you feel about driving in twelve years.

Arctic Fox 09-26-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2009513)
I want you to tell me how you feel about driving in twelve years.

If he carries on speeding he may not last that long.

I just hope he doesn't take an innocent life along the way.

gogond 09-26-2021 01:41 PM

Trap.
 
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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 2009037)
So this might be an anti-law enforcement post?

Some speed enforcement areas are put in place at the behest of the residents of an area because they believe they are in danger since their reflexes and reaction time are considerably slower than 20 years ago. "trap" is usually a term reserved to those who just don't like being told what to do.

As to the "some poor guy" comment...for all it's known is he was weaving all over the place or had an expired plate/license. Assuming someone fell into a "trap" means that the city/county intentionally sets up an area to squeeze $$$ to line their coffers.

Can I assume some people just don't like rules when they feel it may impact "their own" life?

"speed traps" are usually put in place where: a)there has been known excessive speeding(and that would usually be 1 to 5 mph over the limit for a "trap"...not 10 to 20...agreed to nationally as too much.

Sort of like that Vaccine Trap. Lol

graciegirl 09-26-2021 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2009516)
If he carries on speeding he may not last that long.

I just hope he doesn't take an innocent life along the way.

The OP is a woman.

Boffin 09-26-2021 03:11 PM

Dead is dead
 
Exactly what is the difference between dead at 20 miles per hour and dead at 40 miles per hour? Perhaps just luck but all of my encounters with police officers have been good. No excuses though. If I have committed an offense, knowingly or unknowingly, then I say thank you and pay the price. These folks are out there doing their jobs enforcing the law not making it. If someone disagrees with the law, then they need to take action to change the law rather tan bitch about.

JMintzer 09-26-2021 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2009513)
You are 63. I read your other posts. One day you WILL be an 81 year old woman, like me. (Who does not drive because she had a heart episode that scared the misplaced eyebrows off her) No one said I couldn't.

My husband is still an excellent driver at 80.

Our car is not a beat up Chevy with bald tires. It is kept in excellent repair. My husband trims ALL of the bushes and trees around our lot and replaces sprinkler heads. I am so grateful for his good health.

I want you to tell me how you feel about driving in twelve years.

It's not always about you...

graciegirl 09-26-2021 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2009568)
It's not always about you...

I was not clear.

What I was trying to convey is this. Not too many Villagers drive beat up old chevys with bald tires around here and there are a good many folks in their seventies driving safely. AND MOST of us Villagers truly worry and are very concerned about driving safely and when to stop. We are extremely careful about all other things including our health and that is why such a high percentage of us is vaccinated. We also pay our bills on time, witness the highest overall credit ratings in the country live here. We are good people, most of us.

And also. You too are in your early sixties. You too will learn many things in the coming twenty years, just as you have in the last twenty.

JMintzer 09-26-2021 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2009578)
I was not clear.

No, you were perfectly clear. You made it all about you...

"One day you WILL be an 81 year old woman, like me. (Who does not drive because she had a heart episode that scared the misplaced eyebrows off her) No one said I couldn't.

My husband is still an excellent driver at 80.

Our car is not a beat up Chevy with bald tires. It is kept in excellent repair. My husband trims ALL of the bushes and trees around our lot and replaces sprinkler heads. I am so grateful for his good health."

I can see no other way to read this, despite your comments below...

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What I was trying to convey is this. Not too many Villagers drive beat up old chevys with bald tires around here and there are a good many folks in their seventies driving safely. AND MOST of us Villagers truly worry and are very concerned about driving safely and when to stop. We are extremely careful about all other things including our health and that is why such a high percentage of us is vaccinated. We also pay our bills on time, witness the highest overall credit ratings in the country live here. We are good people, most of us.

And also. You too are in your early sixties. You too will learn many things in the coming twenty years, just as you have in the last twenty.
Nah, the Boss says I can't learn anything...


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