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Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.
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I replaced my two toilet valves with metal quarter turn valves because they are used regularly to replace the toilet gasket and other internal parts. The other valves are rarely used, so I have not replaced them. If your non-toilet valves are not leaking, I would just leave them alone. I would recommend replacing the toilet valves. My opinion.
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I replaced my two toilet valves with metal quarter turn valves because they are used regularly to replace the toilet gasket and other internal parts. The other valves are rarely used, so I have not replaced them. If your non-toilet valves are not leaking, I would just leave them alone. I would recommend replacing the toilet valves. My opinion.
Thanks. Good suggestion.
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Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.
Mine is 11 years old with no problems yet.

Others don't trust them and replace them as soon as possible. Get an estimate first, the job is fairly simple and there are a lot of those valves in your house so a per/valve price could quickly add up. (2 for toilets, 1 for fridge, 10 for sinks, dishwasher?)

People have mentioned Shark bite valves in the past.
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Mine is 11 years old with no problems yet.
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At about 10 years the one on the master bedroom toilet failed and I had it replaced. Have two other toilets and no problem. I would wait until it fails. I also have the push/pull on the refrigerator, and sinks with no problem.
I agree with you that I would prefer a different value.
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Mine are over 20 years old I have about 4 left to replace in my house. I have observed the nylon hose start oozing sticky yellow looking goo I replace them, seems the cold side goes first? IMO that sign they are deteriorating? So far none have leaks.

I replace mine with shark bite (SB) or Quick fitting brand (same design SB) they can easily be removed don’t have mess with glue or corroded copper. Plumbers use SB or quick fitting brands also. How do I know MS plumbing installed them on my kitchen sink and Lowe’s contractor did on my hot water tank installation.

You can do search for Accor/flowtite push pull valves or push pull valves this subject has come up many times.

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I replaced all of mine with BrassCraft 1/2 in. CPVC Inlet x 3/8 in. Comp Outlet 1/4-Turn Angle Ball Valve. They are the glue on type and the body can be unscrewed should the valve ever need replacing. Sharkbites can fail.
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I replaced all of mine with BrassCraft 1/2 in. CPVC Inlet x 3/8 in. Comp Outlet 1/4-Turn Angle Ball Valve. They are the glue on type and the body can be unscrewed should the valve ever need replacing. Sharkbites can fail.
No guarantees in plumbing, why plumbers there alway busy. Two connections vs 4.

Your valve can fail also, more places to leak and brass will corrode over time. Also could leak between the clued on PVC slip and brass valve. My SBs got 11 years on them so far easily turn off and on and look like new. To each their own.
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Yes, they wear out. By that I mean, occasionally they will trip to off for no apparent reason -- I presume due to an increase in water pressure.

I know a lot of folks will have a problem with my solution, but .... I have done this on most all of my valves and the fix works perfectly and costs almost nothing. I drill a hole in the valve and then use a cable tie so the valve cannot trip unless the cable tie is removed.

The valve can be tripped manually when needed -- cut the cable tie! Then use a new tie as needed!

Simple, easy to do and costs close to ZERO!

Remember, these valves serve one purpose, only. They allow you to shut the water off to whatever appliance (sink, toilet, ice maker, etc) they provide water to. They do NOTHING else.

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How clever!!! Well done.
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I've lived here 14 year and also have had no problem, but every time I need to use it, I have this feeling it's going to fail.
I had a bidet put in for my wife a while back and since the plumber was working on the bidet I had him change that valve on to a metal turn valve.
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Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.
Torri Plumbing replaced all of mine with metal, quarter turn valves.
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Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.[/QUOTE]

I'm no home improvement guy by any means, but I replaced all of the push-pulls, myself, with Shark-Bite metal valves and metal braided hoses. It's a simple process and you enjoy doing something that's going to cost you a heck of a lot less than calling in a plumber. PM me and I'll walk you through the process.
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Our home is going on 12 years old and have the typical push/pull water shut off values. Been reading their life span is about 10 years before they start leaking. Anyone have any experience with them beyond 10 years? Should I replace them? Do they really begin failing? If you replaced them, what did you use? Thanks for your responses.
The push pull valves are worthless. If I have to replace any plumbing seals, gaskets, toilet valves,,, I just turn of the main in the garage. Thats a quarter turn valve and it works. I consider the push pull valves single use valve. Use them once and figure you need to replace them.
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