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Bilyclub 03-19-2023 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2199210)
This type of construction is a cost way saving sway for the Builder to increase profit. If not for the light there would be no shadow of what they are doing. Look for homes that are built in place ground up not prefabricated.
It's hard to see anything from a thousand miles away.

JMintzer 03-19-2023 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2199210)
This type of construction is a cost way saving sway for the Builder to increase profit. If not for the light there would be no shadow of what they are doing. Look for homes that are built in place ground up not prefabricated.
Is this one of those "negative" posts about The Villages that you were talking about on the AZ vs FL thread?

dewilson58 03-19-2023 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2199282)
It's hard to see anything from a thousand miles away.
:BigApplause:

Bilyclub 03-19-2023 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jimdecastro (Post 2199199)
I am in Newell. There are a FEW standard stretches available but NO internal changes. The windows are not put in before the walls are installed. Some houses are still block because of where they are - even if a tilt wall model exists. If you look at Unit 44 site map in Newell there are several lots listed as non-prefab locations.
Unless somethings changed, the walls come with the windows installed. GoldWingNut has a video that covers precast construction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dCUekKv-SI

kendi 03-19-2023 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2198756)
The wall plant is in the TV industrial park just East of I-75. GoldWingNut's latest video explains why the developer had decided to limit the options in designer homes. Most stretches are not allowed currently.
That information is not in the latest video. Sometime back is last we heard him talk about the walls

jacqueline larsen 03-19-2023 08:41 AM
They’re common south of 44. Very sturdy!

dougawhite 03-19-2023 08:49 AM
I believe the new schools in the southern area are made with the precast tilt-wall construction.

toeser 03-19-2023 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2199208)
The question asked, was: "Tilt Up vs Masonry". Tilt Up is faster and less flexible. If there's a "poured concrete" home anywhere in The Villages (or in the USA), I've never seen it. It's not a practical way to build homes.
A lot of homes built in Minnesota use poured concrete for the lower level. Some are full basements, but others are close to being a first floor with walk-out patio doors.

BrianL99 03-19-2023 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Ptmckiou (Post 2199246)
The tilt-up wall homes will soon be almost all TV homes of the future. Our contractor stated it’s much higher quality construction being solid concrete, and built in a controlled environment. Yes, the windows are installed in the factory prior to shipment, along with with many other things. Consequently, this has stopped all the changes to outside walls of a plan. No more. Inside you can still make some adjustments. Higher quality, lower cost, quicker construction. Win. Win.
It's essentially the road to "cookie-cutter" homes and way to deal with skilled labor shortages. It doesn't take a brain surgeon, to supervise pouring concrete into a mold and then having unskilled labor, hooking them all together like Lego blocks.

Anyone who works with concrete will tell you, this method of construction is not without it's own set of issues. They may be different thank stick framing or block/masonry, but it's not a panacea.

Papa_lecki 03-19-2023 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by joelfmi (Post 2199210)
This type of construction is a cost way saving sway for the Builder to increase profit. If not for the light there would be no shadow of what they are doing. Look for homes that are built in place ground up not prefabricated.
Is it possible they moved to this method of construction to keep the cost of the homes we pay down? Vs increasing profit.

The profit margin of the developer is going to be the same - it’s an easy formula - sale price of home - cost to build = profit

Lower the cost to build, lower the price of the home

Remlod 03-19-2023 10:34 AM
There is at least one poured wall construction model in TV.
 
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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2199208)
The question asked, was: "Tilt Up vs Masonry". Tilt Up is faster and less flexible. If there's a "poured concrete" home anywhere in The Villages (or in the USA), I've never seen it. It's not a practical way to build homes.
The Alamanda is poured exterior wall construction, at least mine is. There are several other similar floor plan with block as well as wood and siding. The Alder is a similar layout but it is block.

Karmanng 03-19-2023 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2199190)
Speed is not the only advantage. Poured concrete walls will not be affected by termites and is probably the best wind resistant construction. A property owner can feel a lot more safe and opt out of buying windstorm(hurricane) coverage on their property. Beets the heck out of stick/frame construction with particle board wood walls.

NOT SO FAST on the termites!!! We had a block home and guess what? We HAD TERMITES!!!! My home in TV from my renter who was a builder stated that the frame home was built quite well and better insulated. ALSO BLOCK homes DO in fact get a number of cracks on it over time from settling and WATER damage........Case in point on my block wall that I have! Constantly fixing............

BrianL99 03-19-2023 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dougawhite (Post 2199319)
I believe the new schools in the southern area are made with the precast tilt-wall construction.
Typical application for Tilt Up construction.

Schools, dormitories, warehouses, factories, large garages.

Any sort of construction that relies on "replication", is a candidate. It's simply panelized construction, using concrete instead of wood products. Cuts time of construction, improves tolerances, but decreases flexibility.

BrianL99 03-19-2023 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by toeser (Post 2199323)
A lot of homes built in Minnesota use poured concrete for the lower level. Some are full basements, but others are close to being a first floor with walk-out patio doors.
We build the same way in the Northeast, but typically if the 1st floor is going to be a "walk-out", it's because it's a sloped lot. It's a function of how much "wall" you need below ground, because of frost.

Tvflguy 03-19-2023 03:19 PM
I’m the OP. And glad that we’re very pleased with our block Designer built in 2013. Made a few moderate changes, we were able to back then - not a Spec house. Was great to have the flexibility to customize. Moving windows, moving the front door wall out to increase foyer size, and expand the home out further.

Seems that most are cookie-cutter now. Expediting and simplifying build but…,

Personally I like the expanded paint gallery colors, but driving “down there” shows smaller lots, shorter driveways, and similar house styling.


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