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justjim 05-28-2016 03:25 PM

Palms
 
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Originally Posted by Retiring (Post 1232663)
I was truly looking forward to one day having lots of palm trees. Is that a bad idea? I had no idea there was a downside to palms. I did know they shouldn’t be close to the house where they can be used as a rodent ladder to your roof. I didn’t know they attract rats?

We always include one or two Palms in our landscape. Never had a rat issue. It just doesn't seem Florida without a Palm tree. We stayed away from the queens--plant Sylvesters and or small fan palms.

Boomer 05-28-2016 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Retiring (Post 1232663)
I was truly looking forward to one day having lots of palm trees. Is that a bad idea? I had no idea there was a downside to palms. I did know they shouldn’t be close to the house where they can be used as a rodent ladder to your roof. I didn’t know they attract rats?

I did not give up on palms completely. I kept the short ones. One has an interesting triple trunk. I see to it that those are fertilized and trimmed from the bottom. I do not know what kind of palms the ones that got to stay are, but I do know they are manageable, at least for now.

When we first bought our house, I went to the meetings offered by the extension office. They really do try to watch out for us gardeners new to Florida. That is where I learned that the queen palms here are about a hundred miles north of their comfort zone, although many do quite well. Our houses here are so close together that maybe we have micro-climates or some such thing. I don't know. But queen palms do seem to work in lots of places throughout TV.

Our queens had grown really tall. Keeping up with removing their big seed pods, and trimming the bottom fronds when they yellowed, got to be more maintenance than I had realized. I can be a little persnickety about plants in my yard. I want them to look their best, but those giant seed pods and big, yellow drooping fronds were trying to get ahead of me. (Also, queen palm maintenance can be a bigger problem for those of us who are here and there.)

And then I heard about palm rats.......EEK! I was done!

I will secretly admit though that I really like seeing the big palms..........in other people's yards. But in our yard, I will stick to the shorter, less demanding palms.

Please don't give up on having the palms of your dreams. You might even like taking good care of the big ones. And you might not worry about having those palm tenants show up.....or not show. I just write sometimes about how I got over having queen palms in our yard. But that does not mean I can't admire them.........from a distance.

Boomer

Retiring 05-28-2016 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1232783)
It just doesn't seem Florida without a Palm tree.

Exactly.

Retiring 05-28-2016 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1232784)
I did not give up on palms completely. I kept the short ones. One has an interesting triple trunk. I see to it that those are fertilized and trimmed from the bottom. I do not know what kind of palms the ones that got to stay are, but I do know they are manageable, at least for now.

When we first bought our house, I went to the meetings offered by the extension office. They really do try to watch out for us gardeners new to Florida. That is where I learned that the queen palms here are about a hundred miles north of their comfort zone, although many do quite well. Our houses here are so close together that maybe we have micro-climates or some such thing. I don't know. But queen palms do seem to work in lots of places throughout TV.

Our queens had grown really tall. Keeping up with removing their big seed pods, and trimming the bottom fronds when they yellowed, got to be more maintenance than I had realized. I can be a little persnickety about plants in my yard. I want them to look their best, but those giant seed pods and big, yellow drooping fronds were trying to get ahead of me. (Also, queen palm maintenance can be a bigger problem for those of us who are here and there.)

And then I heard about palm rats.......EEK! I was done!

I will secretly admit though that I really like seeing the big palms..........in other people's yards. But in our yard, I will stick to the shorter, less demanding palms.

Please don't give up on having the palms of your dreams. You might even like taking good care of the big ones. And you might not worry about having those palm tenants show up.....or not show. I just write sometimes about how I got over having queen palms in our yard. But that does not mean I can't admire them.........from a distance.

Boomer

I love the big palms. Is there a service that specializes in palm maintenance? I know some landscapers like to stick to the lawn and not much else.

If Queen Palms are a problem with upkeep or attracting rodents, then no queen palms for me. There are many palm varieties, I hope one will suit my taste and not become “a problem.”

Bogie Shooter 05-28-2016 06:06 PM

In the news article, Massey stated they interviewed everyone on the street. There were two homeowners that had the problem.
Hardly warrants TV news coverage........................

graciegirl 05-28-2016 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1232868)
In the news article, Massey stated they interviewed everyone on the street. There were two homeowners that had the problem.
Hardly warrants TV news coverage........................

yes.

Bjeanj 05-28-2016 07:35 PM

Slow news day.

joldnol 05-28-2016 10:09 PM

Stop planting palms....problem solved and contrary to what some one said, Most of Florida is fine without palms. The majority of palms planted here are non-native species.

2BNTV 05-29-2016 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 1232410)
Be careful of putting out bait. If a rat eats it and still has an entry point into your home, that is likely the place he will go to die.

All entrance points were sealed.

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Originally Posted by Jima64 (Post 1232762)
Rat poison placed outside should always be put in the heavy plastic bait boxes. It is illegal for pest control techs to do otherwise. Homeowners should be required also. Some rat bait blocks are apple and also peanut butter flavored so you can see that other animals will get to it if left out in the open.

Was performed by Massey. The heavy boxes contained what the tech said was like a granola type bar that only rats could, access through small opening.
Problem solved so I am a happy camper.

CFrance 05-29-2016 04:01 PM

I wish a certain landscaper (writes his own kudos on here) hadn't planted my neighbor's queen so close to our house that the fronds scrape our roof. Since neighbor is a snowbird and doesn't contract with a palm maintenance company, the job of grabbing the offending fronds and sawing them off falls to us. Not what I signed up for. If we ever become incapacitated, I will have to have to talk to them. But not worth possibly engendering bad feelings yet.

larcha 05-30-2016 01:15 PM

Here is an excellent fact sheet on Roof (Palm) Rats, SSWEC120/UW120: Control of Roof Rats in Fruit Trees. It was excerpted from: "Pests in and around the Southern Home", which is available from the UF/IFAS Extension Bookstore. IFASBooks - Pests In and Around the Southern Home.

rosie 136 05-30-2016 07:33 PM

Martysmom, if that it true then I believe the golf course should do something .......

Jima64 05-30-2016 07:37 PM

Be careful of putting out bait. If a rat eats it and still has an entry point into your home, that is likely the place he will go to die.

The above was pasted from a previous poster. Rats will try to find water because of how the poison affects them internallly.

autumnspring 05-30-2016 08:50 PM

re: cheese
 
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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 1232186)
I don't think they'll have any luck interviewing the Palm Rats for their side of the story. They may talk for cheese!

That is only in cartoons. I don't know about Florida rats but in NY peanut butter and bacon worked great. Rat traps are indiscriminate. They will close on kids, pets etc. For the have a heart traps. From experience a squirrel looks far bigger and gets pretty nasty whne you need to open the door to let it go.

autumnspring 05-30-2016 08:55 PM

re: rat poison
 
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Originally Posted by Jima64 (Post 1233974)
Be careful of putting out bait. If a rat eats it and still has an entry point into your home, that is likely the place he will go to die.

The above was pasted from a previous poster. Rats will try to find water because of how the poison affects them internallly.

Interesting to me. Rat poison is warfaren same blood thinner
used by doctors for people with heart conditions. The reason it kills rats is they do not have ability to throw up.
So the poison causes them to bleed to death.


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