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JMintzer 04-15-2022 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2083944)
Moving to a development (like TV Land) that has rules / deed restrictions IS a good way to keep up the value of your property - usually a person's biggest investment. I have zero problem with that. it is the OVERLY strict interpretation of the "rules" that bothers me. I understand the general principle of "no lawn ornaments". That is a good concept. But if someone has a small blue globe in a rock garden - I am NOT going to be offended. I myself, would think that even a large globe or 2 in a front yard would look good to me. And I would not ever waste my brainpower to determine one person's trim color to be BAD and another person's to be GOOD. To me, those are details that are too small for me to complain about. So, I would suggest some degree of flexibility in the RULES.
The idea of self-appointed Trolls driving around (with clipboards) and trying to impose 100% conformity to a Village - is very foreign and extreme to my way of thinking. That is like the old song about house developments......." and they are ALL made out of ticky-tacky, and they all look just the same"!

Pro tip: If it doesn't bother you, don't worry about it...

JMintzer 04-15-2022 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2083947)
The Constitution is a living, changing document. It has been changed by Amendments and will likely be changed in the future. I can think of some improvements!

And I'm sure we'll soon be receiving a dissertation on the subject... :icon_wink:

Bambi 04-15-2022 04:34 PM

I am not a complainer in general but I do have a problem with the owners of a house across a pond and a fairway from me. The have mounted a high intensity spot light on the peak of their roof. It constantly rotates through an array of colors lighting up the ground and reflecting the different colors on the pond between us. It is very distracting to watch tv with with the light in the side of my vision. I no longer sit on my lanai at night to enjoy the peace and tranquility- instead I feel like I am in Wille Wonka’s chocolate factory. Of course it doesn’t bother the owners because they are inside but the light shines at my windows all night. Mounting such a light is prohibited in the deed restrictions. I do not want to confront the neighbors personally but this definitely decreases the enjoyment of my house. My next door neighbors shut their blinds but I hate a closed in feeling. The light changes colors every few seconds. It is kind of a psychedelic experience.

fdpaq0580 04-15-2022 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 2083990)
I am not a complainer in general but I do have a problem with the owners of a house across a pond and a fairway from me. The have mounted a high intensity spot light on the peak of their roof. It constantly rotates through an array of colors lighting up the ground and reflecting the different colors on the pond between us. It is very distracting to watch tv with with the light in the side of my vision. I no longer sit on my lanai at night to enjoy the peace and tranquility- instead I feel like I am in Wille Wonka’s chocolate factory. Of course it doesn’t bother the owners because they are inside but the light shines at my windows all night. Mounting such a light is prohibited in the deed restrictions. I do not want to confront the neighbors personally but this definitely decreases the enjoyment of my house. My next door neighbors shut their blinds but I hate a closed in feeling. The light changes colors every few seconds. It is kind of a psychedelic experience.

It is normal to want to avoid confrontation. With that in mind, I still think the best first step is to go with a friendly smile on your face and introduce yourself. Then explain your situation and ask if they would be willing to remove the light. If they say "no", then contact the appropriate official group and file a complaint. You made a friendly (keep it friendly) appeal. Keep date, time and conversation records for the complaint. Remember people are more likely to be receptive to a nice person's request than an angry jerks demand.
Good luck.

Stu from NYC 04-15-2022 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2083993)
It is normal to want to avoid confrontation. With that in mind, I still think the best first step is to go with a friendly smile on your face and introduce yourself. Then explain your situation and ask if they would be willing to remove the light. If they say "no", then contact the appropriate official group and file a complaint. You made a friendly (keep it friendly) appeal. Keep date, time and conversation records for the complaint. Remember people are more likely to be receptive to a nice person's request than an angry jerks demand.
Good luck.

good advise

Laker14 04-15-2022 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 2083990)
I am not a complainer in general but I do have a problem with the owners of a house across a pond and a fairway from me. The have mounted a high intensity spot light on the peak of their roof. It constantly rotates through an array of colors lighting up the ground and reflecting the different colors on the pond between us. It is very distracting to watch tv with with the light in the side of my vision. I no longer sit on my lanai at night to enjoy the peace and tranquility- instead I feel like I am in Wille Wonka’s chocolate factory. Of course it doesn’t bother the owners because they are inside but the light shines at my windows all night. Mounting such a light is prohibited in the deed restrictions. I do not want to confront the neighbors personally but this definitely decreases the enjoyment of my house. My next door neighbors shut their blinds but I hate a closed in feeling. The light changes colors every few seconds. It is kind of a psychedelic experience.

What you describe is a completely different situation than the ladies in the carts visiting neighborhoods they don't live in looking for violations that don't affect them. You are being directly affected by a violation. It may be that the offenders think everyone is enthralled with their "enhancement", or it may be that they don't care. Doesn't matter. If you are comfortable with introducing yourself and explaining your problem, go for it. If not, and you live in a CDD that allows anonymous complaints, do that. Either way, you are totally within your rights to have this situation rectified.

jimjamuser 04-16-2022 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2083955)
Flexibility in the rules is a slippery slope. Before you know it, there are no rules.

The residents of a particular Village should get to determine the amount of flexibility that they have - after all, they live there. They could determine what constitutes a "slippery slope". And I agree that the "flexibility" should have limits. I would think that the residents could be the deciding factor as to what constitutes an "eyesore" (by voting if necessary). NOT a system of a small number of trolls having excessive power to determine community standards. The community should determine its standards and have some flexibility. Replacing sidewalks and attractive landscaping rock with boring grass is not some GREAT community beautification TO ME !

jimjamuser 04-16-2022 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 2083990)
I am not a complainer in general but I do have a problem with the owners of a house across a pond and a fairway from me. The have mounted a high intensity spot light on the peak of their roof. It constantly rotates through an array of colors lighting up the ground and reflecting the different colors on the pond between us. It is very distracting to watch tv with with the light in the side of my vision. I no longer sit on my lanai at night to enjoy the peace and tranquility- instead I feel like I am in Wille Wonka’s chocolate factory. Of course it doesn’t bother the owners because they are inside but the light shines at my windows all night. Mounting such a light is prohibited in the deed restrictions. I do not want to confront the neighbors personally but this definitely decreases the enjoyment of my house. My next door neighbors shut their blinds but I hate a closed in feeling. The light changes colors every few seconds. It is kind of a psychedelic experience.

I see that as a legitimate complaint. It would be something that I would like to see brought before a Village Residents council and talked over and some reconciliation made. Possibly the lights should be lowered to not bounce across the lake and be annoying?

retiredguy123 04-16-2022 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 2083990)
I am not a complainer in general but I do have a problem with the owners of a house across a pond and a fairway from me. The have mounted a high intensity spot light on the peak of their roof. It constantly rotates through an array of colors lighting up the ground and reflecting the different colors on the pond between us. It is very distracting to watch tv with with the light in the side of my vision. I no longer sit on my lanai at night to enjoy the peace and tranquility- instead I feel like I am in Wille Wonka’s chocolate factory. Of course it doesn’t bother the owners because they are inside but the light shines at my windows all night. Mounting such a light is prohibited in the deed restrictions. I do not want to confront the neighbors personally but this definitely decreases the enjoyment of my house. My next door neighbors shut their blinds but I hate a closed in feeling. The light changes colors every few seconds. It is kind of a psychedelic experience.

If the light is definitely a deed restriction violation and you don't want to confront the neighbor, I think I would just report the violation.

Stu from NYC 04-16-2022 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2084236)
If the light is definitely a deed restriction violation and you don't want to confront the neighbor, I think I would just report the violation.

Or just invite the old biddies over to see it. Sorry could not resist.

fdpaq0580 04-16-2022 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2084257)
Or just invite the old biddies over to see it. Sorry could not resist.

Alternatively, fly a drone with a hammer over to smah the light.
😏

bobnyce 04-16-2022 01:02 PM

Rules and Laws
 
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2083955)
Flexibility in the rules is a slippery slope. Before you know it, there are no rules.

Rules and laws are just suggested behavior unless they are enforced and have consequences. That is why speeders and stop sign violators get away with it because there are no consequences! Period.

Stu from NYC 04-16-2022 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2084263)
Alternatively, fly a drone with a hammer over to smah the light.
😏

that would work but hope the aim is pretty good. Wonder if you could get the hammer back? Asking for a friend.

fdpaq0580 04-16-2022 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2084317)
that would work but hope the aim is pretty good. Wonder if you could get the hammer back? Asking for a friend.

My friend got his hammer back. Had to send in a second "recovery" drone.
😃🚁

Bogie Shooter 04-16-2022 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2084234)
I see that as a legitimate complaint. It would be something that I would like to see brought before a Village Residents council and talked over and some reconciliation made. Possibly the lights should be lowered to not bounce across the lake and be annoying?

That council would be deed compliance…..and then to the District board.
No need for more councils.


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