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-   -   The REAL problem with our roundabouts... (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/real-problem-our-roundabouts-262166/)

Chi-Town 04-30-2018 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1538838)
Seriously PB...you too? :oops:

In fact, I thought you had just said the opposite (that you CAN make a right turn from the left lane)...in another thread? :confused:

I think I also recall you mentioning that for safety sakes, you use your turn signal when leaving a roundabout...as do I.

So if you enter the RA in the left lane, with an intent to leave (still from the left lane, because you can't change lanes in the circle) at the second or third exit...which way do you put your blinker on?

Yeah, just what I thought, the blinker is set...to make a right turn. :D


Now, for a change of pace, how about everyone check out what the signs say when leaving a village...with a single lane exit.

The sign exiting the village only shows one line (like the ones on the north end of Buena Vista)...so which lane do you enter in the roundabout (remembering that you're not supposed to change lanes in the circle)?

So if you wanted to go into the roundabout and take the second or third exit, per the sign (since it only shows one lane) which roundabout lane should you enter...from the single lane village exit? :D

I say the rules require that you enter the left lane of the roundabout, then when you get to your exit (2nd or 3rd) you turn your right blinker on...AND YOU MAKE A RIGHT TURN ACROSS THE RIGHT ROUNDABOUT LANE. :1rotfl:

Like I originally said, there is no consistency...in signage or striping. :ohdear:
I also turn my right turn signal on to let the drivers that are waiting for me to clear the intersection know that I'm crossing the right lane to exit. Some drivers assume that I will continue in the left lane and illegally jump the gun.

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Polar Bear 04-30-2018 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1538838)
Seriously PB...you too? :oops:

In fact, I thought you had just said the opposite (that you CAN make a right turn from the left lane)...in another thread?...
What I said was...

"After entering the roundabout, taking the first exit from the left lane is not proper. Taking the second or third exit from the left lane is perfectly fine."

Big difference.

I and many others in this and other threads try to describe the turns made at a roundabout like it's an intersection to simplify and make consistent the discussion...exiting at the first exit after entering the roundabout is a right turn, exiting at the second exit is going straight, exiting at the third exit is a left turn.

Your insistence on your definition of what constitutes a "right turn" at a roundabout does nothing but confuse the issue and is a disservice to those novices honestly trying to learn the correct procedures.

Of course you have to steer to the right to exit the roundabout. Do you really think people are trying to say otherwise?

Barefoot 04-30-2018 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1538335)
Here are 3 threads with 197 posts. I doubt you can post anything on this thread that has not been said many, many times before.
And incredibly, after 197 posts, people still aren't in agreement about the proper way to drive a roundabout.

Polar Bear 04-30-2018 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1538855)
And incredibly, after 197 posts, people still aren't in agreement about the proper way to drive a roundabout.
Agreed. I’ll clam up. It just gets very frustrating to read this stuff sometimes. :)

ColdNoMore 05-01-2018 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1538851)
I also turn my right turn signal on to let the drivers that are waiting for me to clear the intersection know that I'm crossing the right lane to exit. Some drivers assume that I will continue in the left lane and illegally jump the gun.
Yep...same here.


In addition to avoiding ever having anyone next to me while in the RA, so that when they're in the right lane of the roundabout and I'm in the inside (left) lane and I am exiting and 'will be legally turning right from the left lane, across the right lane'...they don't hit me. :D

ColdNoMore 05-01-2018 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Buffalo Jim (Post 1538850)
So after all of this what's the solution ?
1. Slow to at least 20MPH when in the roundabout.

2. Don't let anyone be right alongside you.

3. Use your turn signals for ALL moves.


:ho:

Bogie Shooter 05-01-2018 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1538855)
And incredibly, after 197 posts, people still aren't in agreement about the proper way to drive a roundabout.
Or sex, politics, where to eat out, handyman, landscaper, how to cook talipia, where to shop, where a dog should poop and on and on...........................barf

graciegirl 05-01-2018 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1538873)
1. Slow to at least 20MPH when in the roundabout.

2. Don't let anyone be right alongside you.

3. Use your turn signals for ALL moves.


:ho:

Good advice.

manaboutown 05-01-2018 08:27 AM
Perhaps an entrepreneurial individual could start a roundabout driving school for newbies.

This might especially help those who previously resided most or all of their adult lives in cities in which they used public transportation such as buses and subways much more than they drove vehicles.

CWGUY 05-01-2018 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1538873)
1. Slow to at least 20MPH when in the roundabout.

2. Don't let anyone be right alongside you.

3. Use your turn signals for ALL moves.


:ho:
:confused: Is it ok if we do what Sumter Co. recommends? They put out a nice brochure on navigating roundabouts. What I gathered from reading it is the 3 most important things were - don't pass in the roundabout, don't stop in the roundabout, and don't change lanes in the roundabout. I would think if everyone read the brochure and did these things..... no or less accidents. :oops: But then I don't pretend to be the expert on everything. :girlneener: I also think I have more time in the roundabouts than some people have in the Villages. :icon_bored:

ColdNoMore 05-01-2018 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1539023)
Is it ok if we do what Sumter Co. recommends? They put out a nice brochure on navigating roundabouts. What I gathered from reading it is the 3 most important things were - don't pass in the roundabout, don't stop in the roundabout, and don't change lanes in the roundabout. I would think if everyone read the brochure and did these things..... no or less accidents.
Yep, you are free to do anything you want.

I was asked for my opinion...and gave it. :D




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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1539023)
But then I don't pretend to be the expert on everything.
Okidokie then.... :oops:
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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1539023)
I also think I have more time in the roundabouts than some people have in the Villages.

Have a great day. :ho:

trichard 05-01-2018 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1538241)
...and a big contributor to the confusion by some people (I know, I know...no one will actually admit to it :D) is the lack of consistency in signage AND striping. :oops:


Note the following photos (numbered from left to right).

1. 2 lanes entering from all 4 sides, 2 lanes all the way around the roundabout...but sign only shows one lane.

2. Same as sign in #1, but it actually narrows to 1 lane within the roundabout...but only for part of it.

3 & 4. Showing roundabout in photo #2.

5. Sign accurately showing two lanes around entire roundabout.
Wow. How the heck do you survive driving outside of The Villages?

ScottRAB 05-01-2018 03:04 PM
Road Sign Refresher
 
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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1538241)
...and a big contributor to the confusion by some people (I know, I know...no one will actually admit to it :D) is the lack of consistency in signage AND striping. :oops:


Note the following photos (numbered from left to right).

1. 2 lanes entering from all 4 sides, 2 lanes all the way around the roundabout...but sign only shows one lane.

2. Same as sign in #1, but it actually narrows to 1 lane within the roundabout...but only for part of it.

3 & 4. Showing roundabout in photo #2.

5. Sign accurately showing two lanes around entire roundabout.
Guide signs are not meant to provide number of lane detail, just direction. Your last photo does not show two lanes going around the circular island, it shows two lanes going to the right of the island and only one lane going left. The photo showing the single lane moving from the inside to the outside is called spiral marking. Since only the left lane can go left around the circle, they chose to move it to the outside lane to clarify that traffic entering needs to yield as that lane comes around. this is done when the cross street only has one lane around the circle.

The black and white lane use signs (if any) are the regulatory signs that describe which lane can go which way.


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