That is not all !! My wife golfs and has a serious medical condition. She has gotten the handicap cuff for her golf bag for years. Golf is her escape. I went to the golf administration and showed her the PA disability placard ,drivers license and told them she has gotten them in the past. A doctors note is on file. I was told I have to connect or associate the drivers license to the placard. I suggested she call PA motor vehicle and she said it is not her responsibility it is mine. She was not helpful. I did as she asked and got a lovely lady in PA motor motor vehicle dept. She sent me a email connecting them. I printed it out and brought it back to lady in golf administration. I suggested to her it is a simple phone call now that I tracked down someone to assist in this process. It would be very helpful to handicapped PA people. She said she would not do that. I then suggested she just give the number out to any Pa who are disabled and want to play in TV and need a permit. She refused to do that too. It took me weeks to track down this helpful person in PA. Another person may not be as motivated as myself or computer savvy. Why treat handicap people like this ???????????

I hope what they do cuts on the abuse of the intended purpose they have it for. Just like you I've witnessed the same things you have and the ambassadors claim they can't do any thing but watch too. Really sad some of these people have no respect for the game nor the courses we been provided to play on. I think some don't care because they know they couldn't do the same outside the villages.:ohdear:

She was correct, it is not her job to do your footwork. I understand that you feel it would have been helpful, but they are VERY busy and there are more then PA people here. They would have to do it for every state. BUT I am glad you got your issue resolved.

The ambassador should have told the golfer that parking between the traps is prohibited, not to mention dangerous. If the golfer persisted in breaking this rule, the ambassador should call his outside manager who will come out to the course and speak to the golfer. As for the carts that ride right up to the green, the new rule is to stay 30 feet from all greens. It is the ambassador’s responsibility to remind golfers of this rule. I had to do so this morning. I told the golfer that he should be 10 yards from the green. His answer to me was: “I thought it was 30 feet.” I just smiled and drove away.

From my uncle's wife's cousin's busybody sister-in-law. OBVIOUSLY (aside from the obvious ;) at the end of my comment) it was meant as humorous hyperbole. Do you REALLY think that it was intended to be an exact statistic gleaned from all motor vehicle records here in The Villages? :1rotfl: Yea, it's definitely "time for change" in people's attitudes around here. If people would just loosen up a bit and spend more time making positive comments (or NO comments at all if they can't be positive) things would be so much better around here.

For your benefit I will add a disclaimer to my post that the 80% figure was not meant to be a statistically significant number but just hyperbole. :ohdear:

I was in an industrial accident many years ago. I have a State Placard to have space to get out of my vehicle, I don’t need one to golf. Everybody has a different story!

:icon_wink: I've asked you a million times not to exaggerate. :1rotfl:

Your Dr has a form from Motor Vehicle Dept for temporary handicap sticker and can be hand carried to MV by you friend or spouse. IT’s FREE.

Wish I had said that :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

RA tags have rules to follow. If ambassadors have no power, get rid of them.

I also had knee replacement. If I could walk to my ball, I did. The handicap tag gave me the opportunity to play. With complications it took a year to not need the tag. I was so grateful for having the opportunity to play. Some may abuse, but for the rest of us it was a life saver.

LOL, the tags or the ambassadors??

Not to my knowledge, but we were told that if things start to heat up we call the outside manager on duty. Golfers are not permitted to “abuse” the staff. Now let me count the number of times I‘be been called a bitch. I smile and tell the moron to have a nice day.

And therein lies the problem. Whenever a benefit is provided to some because they need it, there are others who try to game the system for a free lunch. The only solution is enforcement. Unfortunately, enforcement sometimes leads to confrontation. The ambassadors are there to help, not to abuse. In 7 years of playing golf in TV, I've only seen one ambassador who was out of line, but dozens if not hundreds of golfers abuse them. Pretty sad, since the ambassador is correct 99.9% of the time. The aggregate time these golfers spend arguing with the ambassador could be better spent at the range, considering I've never seen a good golfer break the rules or argue

Nope
Very happy everyone is playing together so well today.
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I seriously doubt that all 4 had heart problems but I do agree that their problem was internal, more like between the ears.
How much common sense does it take to not park (both carts) between a sand trap and the green. They could not have been more than 3-4 feet from the green

[QUOTE=fastboat;1868758]If a person has a heart in that poor of a condition that they can't walk 20 steps they shouldn't be playing golf let alone driving a golf cart or a motor vehicle.

I've said this before, tell me how much fun golf is.

And most, if not all ambassadors, are our neighbors.😀

My daughter is a btk amputee, and I can’t even guess the number of times people have openly criticized her for being a “perfectly healthy young woman” taking up a handicapped space. Number one: mind your own business!!! Anymore she just raises her pant leg and walks away. Every step she takes hurts, and how dare people openly criticize her just because she looks healthy.

Agreed. I’m in a boot right now until the end of December. I should be out of it by January thank goodness.

I called Golf Administration and found that if you could present a current state handicapped hang tag, all that would be needed is a driver’s license or other picture ID plus a Villages ID card. With those forms of identification an RA card would be issued with the same date of expiration as shown on the state hang tag.

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Just like the Citizens First tellers having to fill out the deposit tickets for customers. Only bank I've seen where that is the case. Very unfair to the other people in line who have to wait and listen to the rude customer complain because it is taking too long. Stupid is as stupid does.

Shortly after my husband and I came to Florida, he needed hip surgery. His doctor gave him required paperwork to get a legal temporary handicap placard. I was shocked that we were able to get this as a Minnesota resident living in Florida supposedly in a temporary status. We were grateful. We are now legal residents and he needed a permanent handicap status. His family doctor completed the paperwork to convert the temporary placard to permanent.

Great customer service in my book.

What? I fill out my own.

Unless you have a knee issue with pain you don't really understand. I like golf but developed a knee issue requiring me to get 6 gel shots and cortisone for the pain especially if I had to walk some limited distance or go up small hills. You really get awful tired of doing nothing and long to associate with people and get some limited exercise. I can golf now only if I can take the cart to the ball if its to far away or around small hills. My option is no golf or giving it a try and using the cart to get to my ball if it exceeds my knee limits. Believe me I wish I could walk the whole course or run to my ball no matter where it is but I can't even come close. I have an Apt for knee replacement scheduled ( 1 month) then scheduling the surgery (3,4 ? months) then the recovery. Its a long hall. I think people should be thankful they don't have to take the cart to the ball and not judge those that do. Someday you just might be in the same situation and BTW I can tell you getting older doesn't improve your mobility and you will be amazed how things that were simple to do even 5 years ago become a challenge. I'm thankful I'm still here to do what I can do. Oh and while this thing called "aging" is happening and your loosing mobility, running down to the DMV between Dr visits for a handicap pass to play golf takes a mind set change that isn't as easy as it might seem or a even real priority compared to the issues and real decisions your facing.

Well, if they park in the Pro Pickup lane at Lowe's and come out carrying drywall....