Originally Posted by queasy27 (Post 700737)

That's an interesting distinction. Does it make a difference for you if family is still there or not? I spent my first 35 years in California, but I'd never call that home any more -- it's simply "where I grew up." I don't maintain more than one residence, so home for me is definitely TV.

Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 700744)

I don't think that family being there or not makes a difference. Family can be way overrated. It's a feeling or a memory that is conjured up whenever you think of "home".

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 700326)

As a snowbird, I go to a LOT of open houses, including many FSBO (I would estimate a minimum of 500 in the last 3 to 4 years), and I usually ask why the owners are selling. The overwhelming answers are: 1) Moving elsewhere in The Villages. 2) Miss the kids/grandkids/family/old friends. 3) Sickness of one or both, or loss of one or both. Of course if they are leaving because of dissatisfaction with one or more aspects of TV they, or the realtor, are unlikely to mention that to a prospective buyer.

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl (Post 700719)

We are snowbirds but spend more of time in TV, as the tax advantage to being Florida residents is very compelling. Originally thought we we would be fulltime in TV as didn't think we could afford 2 places. Found out we could do both as Florida is very inexpensive, and we downsized up here. The Villages is pretty much what we thought it would be, but we came on vacations for 4 years or so before retiring and moving down.

I think some people don't give it enough time to get settled in and find their niches. It takes time to make good friends. Some people are just not good movers and need the familiar. I think those are the ones who move back, especially the ones whose families are close and concentrated in the home area they came from. If you think this might be you, my advice would be to look seriously into snowbirding, but at the same time give it an honest chance and delve in to what appealed to you here in the first place.

I've seen some short term snowbirds and snowflakes simply treat TV time as a vacation and not seeming to get involved with neighbors or activities, especially if they mostly visit at the same time as their friends from their hometown. To each his own, I guess, but what happens when some/all of their friends stop coming as their age and health problems mount?

We would have been ok being frogs, as we are both joiners, but glad we have the opportunity to come back north in the summer. We like all the cultural stuff and other opportunities in Columbus and surrounds, and also expect to do some northern traveling from time to time, although I think travel will lesson as we age.

I know several who have moved out. Reasons:
- don't golf and cheaper to have a big home with a bigger lot outside The Villages (this couple moved to Citrus Hills).
- single woman who has children in various locations, has mostly couple friends and was bored, but didn't seem to me to make an effort to get to know other singles (TV was her 2nd retirement move, not her last).
- life revolves around the grandchildren (who then turn 12 or 13 and move on quickly to their own lives).

I've also met widows, who originally moved to TV with their husbands, who were pressured to move back near their families and didn't, and are glad they stayed in TV. They just do more here than would if they'd moved back. Of course, some are happier back with families. Know thyself.

I just think back to my Mom's later years, and parents of others I know, and don't want to repeat the lifestyle of sitting around all winter glued to the TV and concerned about falling on ice or snow when they do venture out. Yes, there are things to do everywhere, but it is easier to do most of them in TV, and also to try new things. I think our kids are grateful that we have a life other than them, although I know this can change as we age.

In our condo here in Ohio, have met a neighbor who spent the first 14 years of their retirement as RV snowbirds (winters in Florida, summers traveling) and the last 4 or 5 (after the driving and travel got to be difficult) spending summers near family in a condo. Now she's alone - husband died last fall - and has truly wonderful retirement memories. No regrets. I think that some people, certainly not all, look back when they are in their 80s and wish they had had more adventure and now feel it is too late.

Think hard about all the scenarios that might happen, and have some backup plans, but live your life - at least that's my HO.

Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 700709)

Home is where you grew up and lived your life and made memories.

Originally Posted by DandyGirl (Post 700979)

Gotta disagree with that. Many of us left where we grew up and lived a lot of different places due to jobs or the military. I wouldn't give that up for anything. I do think of The Villages as home.

Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 701036)

Change is hard. Moving is hard.
And both at an older age are really hard!

You get in a comfort level of knowing where everything is,
having family and friends around and just loving your HOME.

No matter how great T.V. Is, when you first get there you need
TIME for it to become HOME.
Now if we can just sell our Tampa house I could start figuring
out our new life!

Originally Posted by LvmyPug2 (Post 701183)

I have always believed home is where I feel a sense of belonging. For me, that is here in TV. This feeling didn't happen overnight. The first year after moving here, it felt like we were on a long vacation. Everything seemed different and we were always comparing things to "back home". Then, it slowly started to sink in that this was our home.

Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 700573)

If I could afford to go back I might consider it.

Originally Posted by Shimpy (Post 703864)

The only reason I would consider to move from TV would be to live in the mountains of Tenn, N.C., or in the Rocky mountains. That said and analyzed I've got to ask myself, what the hell would I do there to keep myself busy. After taking in the beautiful scenery what would I do? I'm sure I wouldn't find friends to play Bocci with 3 days a week, or go to the pool every day and see all my neighborhood friends to float around and BS with not to mention going to the squares.
I think I'll stay put.

Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 703872)

And that is exactly why I pray every night the TV magically transfers its existence to the mountains - and if that doesn't work if someone would just possibly build a Village like community in the mountains. What fun sharing hiking, and waterfalls, and off roading with these friends (along with all the good stuff we currently have).

Originally Posted by katerogers (Post 703848)

Diane,
Wow! This is certainly discouraging. Here I am a mere two months from my adventure into the unknown and I remember when you were in the same position and all excited about your moving to the Villages. What is it exactly that has burst that bubble? Have you ventured into the social scene and it didn't meet the expectations you had...and I have at the moment? Is it anything specific that has cause you to consider a return ticket?

Katie

Originally Posted by Uptown Girl (Post 700718)

To me, 'Home' is what feels like home in your heart.
It was my desire to make The Villages my home. I embraced that and brought with me the select, fond memories of where I had lived in the past. My happy memories are alive and well and I appreciate having them to 'visit' in my mind whenever I want. They are part of who I am.

I still keep the dearest family and friends in my heart and communicate with them intimately when we each have the opportunity. I have not lost them, nor they me.
I have made new friends and have new activities, beautiful new surroundings and new things to explore, to add to my life's journey.

I was one who never expected to be able to have the luxury of this freedom. My nose was to the grindstone out of necessity. I made everything and everybody my first priority/responsibiilty and always put myself last in line.
I never thought I would be in a position to enjoy this lifestyle. After my obligations were complete, my biggest adjustment was giving myself
PERMISSION to choose what would bring ME nourishment and personal joy.

My joy is living here with the husband I adore. I am content and grateful every day to have had this choice to make. Is The Villages perfect? Would anyplace else be?

Originally Posted by Ohiogirl (Post 700719)

We are snowbirds but spend more of time in TV, as the tax advantage to being Florida residents is very compelling. Originally thought we we would be fulltime in TV as didn't think we could afford 2 places. Found out we could do both as Florida is very inexpensive, and we downsized up here. The Villages is pretty much what we thought it would be, but we came on vacations for 4 years or so before retiring and moving down.

I think some people don't give it enough time to get settled in and find their niches. It takes time to make good friends. Some people are just not good movers and need the familiar. I think those are the ones who move back, especially the ones whose families are close and concentrated in the home area they came from. If you think this might be you, my advice would be to look seriously into snowbirding, but at the same time give it an honest chance and delve in to what appealed to you here in the first place.

I've seen some short term snowbirds and snowflakes simply treat TV time as a vacation and not seeming to get involved with neighbors or activities, especially if they mostly visit at the same time as their friends from their hometown. To each his own, I guess, but what happens when some/all of their friends stop coming as their age and health problems mount?

We would have been ok being frogs, as we are both joiners, but glad we have the opportunity to come back north in the summer. We like all the cultural stuff and other opportunities in Columbus and surrounds, and also expect to do some northern traveling from time to time, although I think travel will lesson as we age.

I know several who have moved out. Reasons:
- don't golf and cheaper to have a big home with a bigger lot outside The Villages (this couple moved to Citrus Hills).
- single woman who has children in various locations, has mostly couple friends and was bored, but didn't seem to me to make an effort to get to know other singles (TV was her 2nd retirement move, not her last).
- life revolves around the grandchildren (who then turn 12 or 13 and move on quickly to their own lives).

I've also met widows, who originally moved to TV with their husbands, who were pressured to move back near their families and didn't, and are glad they stayed in TV. They just do more here than would if they'd moved back. Of course, some are happier back with families. Know thyself.

I just think back to my Mom's later years, and parents of others I know, and don't want to repeat the lifestyle of sitting around all winter glued to the TV and concerned about falling on ice or snow when they do venture out. Yes, there are things to do everywhere, but it is easier to do most of them in TV, and also to try new things. I think our kids are grateful that we have a life other than them, although I know this can change as we age.

In our condo here in Ohio, have met a neighbor who spent the first 14 years of their retirement as RV snowbirds (winters in Florida, summers traveling) and the last 4 or 5 (after the driving and travel got to be difficult) spending summers near family in a condo. Now she's alone - husband died last fall - and has truly wonderful retirement memories. No regrets. I think that some people, certainly not all, look back when they are in their 80s and wish they had had more adventure and now feel it is too late.

Think hard about all the scenarios that might happen, and have some backup plans, but live your life - at least that's my HO.

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 703995)

A reverse question which I will ask again...........can "non joiners" as people have called them.........really find happiness in TV? What about living each day, one day at a time, without running from club to club? What about the people from small mountain towns. Those who are the creative type who enjoy activities in small doses, not "round the clock" busyness?

Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 704165)

Guys:
Small towns and mountain towns do have people to befriend, as well as community activities if one wanted to join in ..........really they do. Along with their beautiful vistas and views plus deep cool forests, they really have plenty of things to do, both solitary and with a group or just one good friend

Not looking for a small mountain town - looking for all The Villages offers in a mountain
town. My husband and I are not joiners and don't engage in clubs and the only activity we regularly participate in is golf; however, we do so with a great group of folks and enjoy going to different places for breakfast. I am referring to the way the grounds are so beautifully landscaped and maintained and the convenience of nearby shopping, doctors and restaurants. And the fact that The Villages offers so much it attracts a very interesting group of people.

Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 700372)

I have only been here for 3 weeks but, for me, it would be "I miss what was and am not yet used to what is". I truly like TV but I can understand wanting to go back home. I think my roots will always be NY.

Originally Posted by gemorc (Post 700538)

We have been here for six years now, and we are seriously considering leaving. Reasons for leaving:
1. TV has just gotten too big for it's own britches. The infrastructure is too small to handle the traffic.
2. Our lifestyles have changed. TV moves to a much more hastened pace. The people don't seem to be as friendly. The developer's presence is greatly felt more than ever before.
3. The last reason, I am a golfer. I am a priority member. We have eleven courses to play, and until three weeks ago, not one of them compared to a decent municipal course in Michigan. Anyone who has played off the reservation, knows what I mean. Until Golf management Solutions realizes that course conditions are more important than rounds being played, we will never have quality golf.

We will not be leaving north central Florida. We are just seeking a softer, hassle free environment.