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mulligan 02-17-2021 09:32 AM

My guess is that's why he's a salesman and not an installer.

ckbenjamin 02-17-2021 09:35 AM

35 years of experience and many times dealing with this issue qualifies me, I think. What are your qualifications? You were blessed to not see the seams in your carpet. Some products are more forgiving than others. There is no guarantee that carpet will not show seams. There can be installation issues or product constructions issues that would cause seams to be more noticeable but NEVER would any salesman or manufacturer's representative tell you they're going to be invisible. It's unrealistic.

dwhite5773 02-17-2021 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DangeloInspections (Post 1902932)
This is excellent advice.

Frank D.

If anyone knows, Frank D will!

retiredguy123 02-17-2021 09:43 AM

I once had a whole house carpeted, and the company sent out a professional measurer who prepared a drawing showing exactly where all of the seams would be. As much as possible, he located them in areas where they would be less noticeable. That was a long time ago, and I suspect that it may not be a standard practice today.

Spalumbos62 02-17-2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ckbenjamin (Post 1903283)
I'm not on anyone's payroll or back pocket. Despicable comment. I spent 35 years selling carpet and flooring. You accept visible seams in your clothing, right? Carpet is nothing more except that a secondary backing has been glue to it for stability. I was told once when I first started selling "Seams are an imperfection and only an act of God will make them disappear". Sounds like your expectations might have been a little high if you were expecting invisibility. As to the person who posted that there's a seam in the walkway because the job wasn't properly calculated...that is the responsibility of whoever did the calculations. Too bad floor covering companies down here don't certify their installers through CFI. If they did, they could advertise that they have master installers available. I'd be willing to pay a premium price for a master installer. BTW...home inspectors have their place but they are not floorcovering inspectors nor will their opinions have any weight in case this issue should go farther.

Further information might be found here..Installation Standards - CRI. You might also be able to contact CRI for a list of independent inspectors in the area fees for which you will be responsible.

I dont think the comment was despicable at all!
She's got a monster problem and the rep is not helping...I'd be ****ed too! Maybe he is the company's pocket...unless its you, of course.

quinnpd 02-17-2021 03:48 PM

Need help finding independent flooring inspector
 
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Here are a couple of pictures of the seams I am talking about. FloorMasters installed and did a poor job and will not stand behind it.

retiredguy123 02-17-2021 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by quinnpd (Post 1903649)
Here are a couple of pictures of the seams I am talking about. FloorMasters installed and did a poor job and will not stand behind it.

All of your photos are at doorways where you always have a seam. They will probably look better over time. You could have someone cut them out and redo the seams, but it may end up looking worse. I really don't think you will get anywhere with your complaint, unless you can prove that they were not properly butted and glued, which I doubt.

quinnpd 02-17-2021 06:54 PM

Need flooring inspector
 
The photo's I uploaded where from the 3 bedroom doorway's. I have a long seam running right down the middle of the Family Room as well as a very visible seam in the Master Bedroom. This was a really bad installation and FloorMasters will not stand behind it. They recognize that by pulling the carpet at the seams up they will do more damage and make the seams worse. So same old story, they have their $$$$ and I have seams

DAVES 02-17-2021 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosie1950 (Post 1903384)
My uncle is retired. Installed carpeting for years, if seams are showing they will eventually form a peak. This is caused by the glue too hot or not proper glue for the material. Depending on the area and how many angles and cuts sometimes the seams can be recur and stretched. Good luck carpet companies are a bear to deal with. Uncle Tommy’s words not mine.
If you charged it, look at the back of your monthly statement. Most cards have a clause about faulty product law and trying in good faith to rectify, this means continuing to pay on the card. If you have good faith and they do nothing you should not have to pay and the card company will get your money back

You need to report the issue to the credit card company there is surely a phone number on the card. I think you have 30 days to file a dispute. I've done this twice in my lifetime
and both times had a well prepared file and I won both times. However, if, I recall the credit card people told me they could with hold payment for ????? 90 days but, in the end they will pay. Even though I won, I assume the person, company on the other side of the issue knows if they do not resolve it they will still be paid. There must be some penalty they suffer as in both cases they avoided a positive response that after I dealt through the credit card company they offered.

retiredguy123 02-17-2021 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1903767)
You need to report the issue to the credit card company there is surely a phone number on the card. I think you have 30 days to file a dispute. I've done this twice in my lifetime
and both times had a well prepared file and I won both times. However, if, I recall the credit card people told me they could with hold payment for ????? 90 days but, in the end they will pay. Even though I won, I assume the person, company on the other side of the issue knows if they do not resolve it they will still be paid. There must be some penalty they suffer as in both cases they avoided a positive response that after I dealt through the credit card company they offered.

That's really not how it works. Under Federal law, you have 60 days from the statement date to dispute a charge after you have tried to resolve the issue with the merchant. The bank must immediately remove the charge from your account and conduct an independent review of your dispute. If the bank determines that your dispute is valid, then the merchant does not get the money.

RICH1 02-17-2021 10:40 PM

Is Luxury Vinyl Flooring a possibility in your future?

RICH1 02-17-2021 10:43 PM

Low pile carpet shows the seams!

pablo cruze 02-20-2021 01:17 PM

Hello,
I hope that you used a credit card. Your photos will support your claim. As mentioned above, it is required to first try to work it out with the floor company. 1. Have them fix it, or 2) Have them give you an adjustment if that is ok with you. It is best to take the lead - tell the floor company what you expect. Maybe 15% refund - if that is ok. If no agreement can be arranged, then it is time to begin the dispute process. It is best to be clear to provide details of the issue, and communication details with the credit card company - dates of each communication, type (email / call etc.) what was inquired, what was replied. I've had to do disputes a few times and have always gotten the funds credited back to my account.
Good luck

charlieo1126@gmail.com 02-21-2021 10:06 AM

With low pile carpet you get what you pay for and although I’m either tile or wood floor guy this type of carpet is used more if you have young children , heavy traffic areas or like something that vacuums easy but that’s just my opinion


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