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klough53 04-16-2016 08:34 PM

Bingo! Thank you!

gomoho 04-17-2016 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1213585)
Ok - bottom line. Corvette owner required by law to stop and report incident. Probably scared and did the wrong thing. Should step up to the plate and report it. Dog was not supposed to be out without a leash - does not matter the dog can dig an escape route. What if Corvette owner swerved to miss dog and flipped car and ended in a fatality ? What about dog owners responsibility now ? Reporting the incident won't change the fact that the dog got hit and by not reporting it the dog is still hit and the difference is a report. Wow I am amazed on how our society loves revenge.

The difference is, if there is no one around to assist the injured animal the driver could have called animal control to rescue and not leave it there to die in pain. There is NO excuse for not stopping.

perrjojo 04-17-2016 06:48 AM

Yes, the dog's owner shares some responsibility but I feel pretty certain they didn't deliberately let their dog run loose as they had reported him lost. Some dogs are little escape artist and they can get out without the owners knowledge. The driver should have stopped.

asianthree 04-17-2016 07:57 AM

The dog breed is very fast. If one didn't notice it darted into the road you wouldn't have a chance at 35 miles an hour to stop in time. The driver not stopping is just horrific thought. Last night as we are coming back from colony something large ran across in front of our car. We breaded hard did not hit it but because it was so dark had no idea what it was. We did stop to see if we could figure out if it was a dog or a cat but it was gone through the bushes and across the golf course before we could

graciegirl 04-17-2016 07:59 AM

This is an interesting thread and reveals a lot about all of the posters values.


I have decided that I like people best who like dogs.


I am a kitty owner and they don't impact or interact with people outside the home...so I am sure that most people who like dogs like kitties too.


I seem to like them even more as I grow older. Dogs, and the people who like them.

rustyp 04-17-2016 08:31 AM

Most places you have to stop and report if you hit a dog, horse, cow, goat, mule, sheep or pig. You don't have to stop if you hit a cat or most other animals. In the north country if you hit a deer and it's still alive most likely law enforcement will put it out of it's misery. In Alaska they have a lottery for who gets the moose meat when hit by a car. I wonder who in society got to pick which ones are the special animals. FYI how do you know the driver did not call police even immediately down the road. All you know is the driver did not stop at the scene which by law is required. Call it a mistake, misdemeanor, poor judgment, no morals, etc. Dog is OK. Sounds like some of you are looking for justice - will a good old fashion hanging in the town square do it for you ?

CFrance 04-17-2016 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1213707)
Most places you have to stop and report if you hit a dog, horse, cow, goat, mule, sheep or pig. You don't have to stop if you hit a cat or most other animals. In the north country if you hit a deer and it's still alive most likely law enforcement will put it out of it's misery. In Alaska they have a lottery for who gets the moose meat when hit by a car. I wonder who in society got to pick which ones are the special animals. FYI how do you know the driver did not call police even immediately down the road. All you know is the driver did not stop at the scene which by law is required. Call it a mistake, misdemeanor, poor judgment, no morals, etc. Dog is OK. Sounds like some of you are looking for justice - will a good old fashion hanging in the town square do it for you ?

OP, did police show up at the scene? If not, I would guess that the driver didn't call to report the accident. If he had, wouldn't they have told him to stay at the scene?:shrug:

rustyp 04-17-2016 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1213710)
OP, did police show up at the scene? If not, I would guess that the driver didn't call to report the accident. If he had, wouldn't they have told him to stay at the scene?:shrug:

Why are you asking me ? I wasn't there. I don't know anything about it.

CFrance 04-17-2016 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1213714)
Why are you asking me ? I wasn't there. I don't know anything about it.

I asked the OP but referenced your statement "FYI how do you know the driver did not call police even immediately down the road. All you know is the driver did not stop at the scene which by law is required"

Taltarzac725 04-17-2016 09:16 AM

The Ox-Bow Incident (1943)

Nobody is suggesting a lynching. Accidents and Animals: Pet Hit and Run Laws - FindLaw Blotter

Atlanta 04-17-2016 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1213731)
I asked the OP but referenced your statement "FYI how do you know the driver did not call police even immediately down the road. All you know is the driver did not stop at the scene which by law is required"

I was the golfer that retrieved the pup. I am using my wife's account because I don't have one. It was purely an accident even though the car appeared to be going about 45 MPH and then a second car almost hit it as it was struggling. I called 911 after getting the pup out of the road asking them to send animal control. The dog was in obvious shock and bleeding, but didn't seem to have severe injuries, and kept struggling to get up so I put my golf towel over it to keep it warm and covered it's head to keep it calm. Many people slowed to offer assistance, then one man stopped and when I described the dog to him he referenced the owners information on his phone and called her. A sheriff's deputy came and stayed with us until the owner got there and took the dog to the vet. I am thrilled that the pup will make it, and I am willing to bet he won't try to dig out again.

kstew43 04-17-2016 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlanta (Post 1213889)
I was the golfer that retrieved the pup. I am using my wife's account because I don't have one. It was purely an accident even though the car appeared to be going about 45 MPH and then a second car almost hit it as it was struggling. I called 911 after getting the pup out of the road asking them to send animal control. The dog was in obvious shock and bleeding, but didn't seem to have severe injuries, and kept struggling to get up so I put my golf towel over it to keep it warm and covered it's head to keep it calm. Many people slowed to offer assistance, then one man stopped and when I described the dog to him he referenced the owners information on his phone and called her. A sheriff's deputy came and stayed with us until the owner got there and took the dog to the vet. I am thrilled that the pup will make it, and I am willing to bet he won't try to dig out again.

you did a very good thing and I am sure you will be rewarded. Karma.....:BigApplause:

gerryann 04-17-2016 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlanta (Post 1213889)
I was the golfer that retrieved the pup. I am using my wife's account because I don't have one. It was purely an accident even though the car appeared to be going about 45 MPH and then a second car almost hit it as it was struggling. I called 911 after getting the pup out of the road asking them to send animal control. The dog was in obvious shock and bleeding, but didn't seem to have severe injuries, and kept struggling to get up so I put my golf towel over it to keep it warm and covered it's head to keep it calm. Many people slowed to offer assistance, then one man stopped and when I described the dog to him he referenced the owners information on his phone and called her. A sheriff's deputy came and stayed with us until the owner got there and took the dog to the vet. I am thrilled that the pup will make it, and I am willing to bet he won't try to dig out again.

You're a good person. Thanks for being there for this pup.

CFrance 04-17-2016 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlanta (Post 1213889)
I was the golfer that retrieved the pup. I am using my wife's account because I don't have one. It was purely an accident even though the car appeared to be going about 45 MPH and then a second car almost hit it as it was struggling. I called 911 after getting the pup out of the road asking them to send animal control. The dog was in obvious shock and bleeding, but didn't seem to have severe injuries, and kept struggling to get up so I put my golf towel over it to keep it warm and covered it's head to keep it calm. Many people slowed to offer assistance, then one man stopped and when I described the dog to him he referenced the owners information on his phone and called her. A sheriff's deputy came and stayed with us until the owner got there and took the dog to the vet. I am thrilled that the pup will make it, and I am willing to bet he won't try to dig out again.

What a wonderful thing you did. Thanks to you!

Susan G 04-17-2016 02:26 PM

We Need People Like YOU ...
 
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Originally Posted by Atlanta (Post 1213889)
I was the golfer that retrieved the pup. I am using my wife's account because I don't have one. It was purely an accident even though the car appeared to be going about 45 MPH and then a second car almost hit it as it was struggling. I called 911 after getting the pup out of the road asking them to send animal control. The dog was in obvious shock and bleeding, but didn't seem to have severe injuries, and kept struggling to get up so I put my golf towel over it to keep it warm and covered it's head to keep it calm. Many people slowed to offer assistance, then one man stopped and when I described the dog to him he referenced the owners information on his phone and called her. A sheriff's deputy came and stayed with us until the owner got there and took the dog to the vet. I am thrilled that the pup will make it, and I am willing to bet he won't try to dig out again.

Very quick thinking getting to PAOLO and covering him with your towel. They do go into shock & will struggle and cause even more stress & injuries. So horrific to witness a dog being struck.

I am one of the ones involved in the search/rescue of PAOLO & many other dogs recently, some of whom are still missing. We will be forming a group to help spread the tasks out and could use your help. Please PM me if interested (or have your wife do it) and we'll let you know when we get the group together.

Again, thank you on behalf of the owner and the people involved in the 2 day search.

Susan Gros
Honorary Chair
Dog Search Team of The Villages

flyerguy 04-17-2016 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Atlanta (Post 1213889)
I was the golfer that retrieved the pup. I am using my wife's account because I don't have one. It was purely an accident even though the car appeared to be going about 45 MPH and then a second car almost hit it as it was struggling. I called 911 after getting the pup out of the road asking them to send animal control. The dog was in obvious shock and bleeding, but didn't seem to have severe injuries, and kept struggling to get up so I put my golf towel over it to keep it warm and covered it's head to keep it calm. Many people slowed to offer assistance, then one man stopped and when I described the dog to him he referenced the owners information on his phone and called her. A sheriff's deputy came and stayed with us until the owner got there and took the dog to the vet. I am thrilled that the pup will make it, and I am willing to bet he won't try to dig out again.

You receive a very big "Atta Boy" You did good. :thumbup:

rustyp 04-17-2016 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1213734)

That was a great movie. An excellent illustration of how easily one's values can get distorted after jumping to conclusions, surrendering to peer pressure, and taking the law into their own hands.:thumbup:

Taltarzac725 04-17-2016 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1213961)
That was a great movie. An excellent illustration of how easily one's values can get distorted after jumping to conclusions, surrendering to peer pressure, and taking the law into their own hands.:thumbup:

It was a favorite among teachers at my high school in Reno as well as at the University of Nevada, Reno (UNR) as its author Walter Van Tilburg Clark taught English at UNR. Walter Van Tilburg Clark Biography

CWGUY 04-18-2016 12:14 AM

:shrug: 11 posts on https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...cident-189844/ 3 people in serious condition.

57 posts on Dog hit by Red Vet. - Dog doing well at home.(thank God)

What if anything is wrong with this picture? Just asking. :throwtomatoes:

Nucky 04-18-2016 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Atlanta (Post 1213889)
I was the golfer that retrieved the pup. I am using my wife's account because I don't have one. It was purely an accident even though the car appeared to be going about 45 MPH and then a second car almost hit it as it was struggling. I called 911 after getting the pup out of the road asking them to send animal control. The dog was in obvious shock and bleeding, but didn't seem to have severe injuries, and kept struggling to get up so I put my golf towel over it to keep it warm and covered it's head to keep it calm. Many people slowed to offer assistance, then one man stopped and when I described the dog to him he referenced the owners information on his phone and called her. A sheriff's deputy came and stayed with us until the owner got there and took the dog to the vet. I am thrilled that the pup will make it, and I am willing to bet he won't try to dig out again.

What a beautiful thing you have done. Instinctively giving aid and comfort. I hope you hit the lottery & have health & happiness. You are an excellent example to all. Take Care. :BigApplause:

Barefoot 04-18-2016 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1214057)
11 posts on https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...cident-189844/ 3 people in serious condition.
57 posts on Dog hit by Red Vet. - Dog doing well at home.(thank God)
What if anything is wrong with this picture? Just asking.

Two terrible accidents for sure. In one accident, the truck driver was ticketed. The other accident was a cowardly hit and run.

Barefoot 04-18-2016 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Atlanta (Post 1213889)
I was the golfer that retrieved the pup. I am using my wife's account because I don't have one. It was purely an accident even though the car appeared to be going about 45 MPH and then a second car almost hit it as it was struggling. I called 911 after getting the pup out of the road asking them to send animal control. The dog was in obvious shock and bleeding, but didn't seem to have severe injuries, and kept struggling to get up so I put my golf towel over it to keep it warm and covered it's head to keep it calm. Many people slowed to offer assistance, then one man stopped and when I described the dog to him he referenced the owners information on his phone and called her. A sheriff's deputy came and stayed with us until the owner got there and took the dog to the vet. I am thrilled that the pup will make it, and I am willing to bet he won't try to dig out again.

Bless your heart for your compassion.

rustyp 04-18-2016 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1214059)
Two terrible accidents for sure. In one accident, the truck driver was ticketed. The other accident was a cowardly hit and run.

Let's see using this logic:

Truck driver causes accident - humans are hurt - struggling for life -truck driver gets ticket

Dog causes accident - dog hurt - superficial wounds - it's a cowardly hit and run

Shouldn't the dog get a ticket ?

mikemalloy 04-18-2016 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Atlanta (Post 1213889)
I was the golfer that retrieved the pup. I am using my wife's account because I don't have one. It was purely an accident even though the car appeared to be going about 45 MPH and then a second car almost hit it as it was struggling. I called 911 after getting the pup out of the road asking them to send animal control. The dog was in obvious shock and bleeding, but didn't seem to have severe injuries, and kept struggling to get up so I put my golf towel over it to keep it warm and covered it's head to keep it calm. Many people slowed to offer assistance, then one man stopped and when I described the dog to him he referenced the owners information on his phone and called her. A sheriff's deputy came and stayed with us until the owner got there and took the dog to the vet. I am thrilled that the pup will make it, and I am willing to bet he won't try to dig out again.

I happened to be passing when you and another individual were running out onto Buena Vista. I saw the dog struggling and have been wondering whether or not he was seriously injured. I'm glad for this post because it addressed the concerns that I had. I'm sure that if you hadn't acted so quickly the dog might have been in danger of being hit again. Well done.:BigApplause:

Taltarzac725 04-18-2016 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atlanta (Post 1213889)
I was the golfer that retrieved the pup. I am using my wife's account because I don't have one. It was purely an accident even though the car appeared to be going about 45 MPH and then a second car almost hit it as it was struggling. I called 911 after getting the pup out of the road asking them to send animal control. The dog was in obvious shock and bleeding, but didn't seem to have severe injuries, and kept struggling to get up so I put my golf towel over it to keep it warm and covered it's head to keep it calm. Many people slowed to offer assistance, then one man stopped and when I described the dog to him he referenced the owners information on his phone and called her. A sheriff's deputy came and stayed with us until the owner got there and took the dog to the vet. I am thrilled that the pup will make it, and I am willing to bet he won't try to dig out again.

Thanks for your presence of mind and kindness.

CFrance 04-18-2016 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1214057)
:shrug: 11 posts on https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...cident-189844/ 3 people in serious condition.

57 posts on Dog hit by Red Vet. - Dog doing well at home.(thank God)

What if anything is wrong with this picture? Just asking. :throwtomatoes:

For one thing, animals are pretty much defenseless and cause their own mishapss out of innocence. It tugs at your heartstrings. For another, there were witnesses and people who were able to follow up, so that made the thread longer. There were no TOTVers witnessing the car/truck accident. No follow-up. There wasn't even very much explanation in the paper. Those people are in our thoughts and prayers, but with no back story, there's not much more to say.

And for a third, the thread is older.

regas56 04-18-2016 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by j8384 (Post 1213277)
If the car driver gets a fine, etc, I hope the dog owners are fined also! Maybe someone should report them for not keeping their dog under control, causing this accident! It really is their fault!!! Maybe the dog should be removed and put in doggie foster care until it can be proven the dog can no longer escape and cause an accident. Things could have been much worse, could have involved other vehicles or pedestrians had the car driver had a chance to swerve to miss the dog. Could have resulted in a dead dog. So, I don't think it is fair to put the blame on the car driver, it all started with the dog owner,

What is wrong with you? Who said anyone's getting fined? Who said it was the drivers fault? It's not illegal to hit an animal and just keep going, I believe it's more a question of why wouldn't someone stop if for no other reason than to make sure this animal isn't suffering.. Conditions and situations occur that can be cause for a pet OR child to wander off, usually in a split second of preoccupation, open door, phone call etc, would you fine a parent or remove their child because of it? Maybe you're one of the rare ones that would NEVER allow that to happen but most of us are less than perfect and these things sometimes do happen..We all have our opinion as do you but they're still just opinions and shouldn't morph into hyperbole and THAT is just my opinion..

regas56 04-18-2016 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1214057)
:shrug: 11 posts on https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...cident-189844/ 3 people in serious condition.

57 posts on Dog hit by Red Vet. - Dog doing well at home.(thank God)

What if anything is wrong with this picture? Just asking. :throwtomatoes:

Did the driver in the bad accident stop? Most love their pets and they love us back unconditionally while also needing us to protect and defend them..I would stop to aid an injured dog as fast as I would an injured human as I believe suffering is suffering and neither deserve to suffer.. The thread has a heart string being tugged at no, more no less..

CFrance 04-18-2016 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by regas56 (Post 1214183)
What is wrong with you? Who said anyone's getting fined? Who said it was the drivers fault? It's not illegal to hit an animal and just keep going, I believe it's more a question of why wouldn't someone stop if for no other reason than to make sure this animal isn't suffering.. Conditions and situations occur that can be cause for a pet OR child to wander off, usually in a split second of preoccupation, open door, phone call etc, would you fine a parent or remove their child because of it? Maybe you're one of the rare ones that would NEVER allow that to happen but most of us are less than perfect and these things sometimes do happen..We all have our opinion as do you but they're still just opinions and shouldn't morph into hyperbole and THAT is just my opinion..

I agree with you. The idea that the owner is at fault because the dog took it upon himself to dig a hole and escape while nobody was looking is preposterous. My dog can dig a hole two feet deep on a beach in five minutes flat. Our son could get 50 feet up a tree without making a sound. Who knows what pets or kids are going to think up next? Accidents happen through nobody's fault.

This subject is not about assigning fault; it's about acting responsibly.

laurie jeanne 04-18-2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Susan G (Post 1213915)
Very quick thinking getting to PAOLO and covering him with your towel. They do go into shock & will struggle and cause even more stress & injuries. So horrific to witness a dog being struck.

I am one of the ones involved in the search/rescue of PAOLO & many other dogs recently, some of whom are still missing. We will be forming a group to help spread the tasks out and could use your help. Please PM me if interested (or have your wife do it) and we'll let you know when we get the group together.

Again, thank you on behalf of the owner and the people involved in the 2 day search.

Susan Gros
Honorary Chair
Dog Search Team of The Villages

I'm a neighbor of the owner & was out there searching, looking, leaving flyers, talking to people etc since last Weds. I don't think any stone was unturned to find Paolo. It sure was an incredible huge group effort of friends, neighbors & total strangers who took the search to heart. That's how The Villages rolls. Prayers were definitely answered. Don't know how to PM you but I'd like to make myself available to render assistance as needed.

CFrance 04-18-2016 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by laurie jeanne (Post 1214251)
I'm a neighbor of the owner & was out there searching, looking, leaving flyers, talking to people etc since last Weds. I don't think any stone was unturned to find Paolo. It sure was an incredible huge group effort of friends, neighbors & total strangers who took the search to heart. That's how The Villages rolls. Prayers were definitely answered. Don't know how to PM you but I'd like to make myself available to render assistance as needed.

Laurie jean, if you left-click on Susan's name at the top of one of her posts, a drop-down menu will appear. You can then click on "Send a private message."

OhioBuckeye 04-18-2016 06:14 PM

Well, I wouldn't get to worked up about this, I'm sure the Corvette owner will have to put more money in that Vette to fix it than to worry about someone pet running loose. Not trying to sound insensitive, just saying the owner of the dog should of made more of an attempt to keep his dog contained. But then again the Corvette owner should of been courteous & stopped. If you want to find him, maybe, just maybe this person will show up at the next Corvette rally!


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