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graciegirl 04-04-2018 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1530156)
Then if it’s that upsetting you might have a conversation with them. After all posting here won’t get their attention, or give them an idea that you are this upset.

I wish someone would sneak into our yard and weed. Weeding is NO fun.

ladygolfer123 04-04-2018 04:48 PM

I agree...regardless... if the lease says 24 hr notice then that is what is expected! The landlord is collecting rent and should be polite to give notice!

JimD215 04-04-2018 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 1530155)
Being a landlord and having a lease with my tenants, there is a 24 hours notice clause, but that is to enter the home, come inside.

If I had to give notice when my lawn guy goes to mow or pull weeds or trim shrubs, I can promise you it would never happen. And if you called him or me out for it, I would have you added to the renters blacklist we maintain for those undesirable tenants none of us want.

You usually know when the lawn guy is coming. And like I said. There is no lawn. Coming through the gate is just like entering the home. There is a threshold. Once behind the gate you can see everything in the house. That’s why people put locks on them.

manaboutown 04-04-2018 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 1530155)
Being a landlord and having a lease with my tenants, there is a 24 hours notice clause, but that is to enter the home, come inside.

If I had to give notice when my lawn guy goes to mow or pull weeds or trim shrubs, I can promise you it would never happen. And if you called him or me out for it, I would have you added to the renters blacklist we maintain for those undesirable tenants none of us want.

This is the normal situation, the standard clause in a residential lease all over the country. The 24 hour notice is for entering the home, not cleaning/weeding the yard.

thetruth 04-04-2018 05:09 PM

I understand your point-but
 
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Originally Posted by JimD215 (Post 1530148)
I did read it. 24 hrs notice. And tenants do have rights. Just like my tenants did

We own our place. It seems to be acceptable by repair crews to just enter YOUR property and do repairs etc.

We certainly do not have the details. Who knows-perhaps you or the people around you complained about the weeds.

I would suggest you get over being angry AND THEN THINK HOW BIG OF DEAL YOU WANT TO MAKE OF THIS and is it worth it.

JimD215 04-04-2018 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thetruth (Post 1530168)
We own our place. It seems to be acceptable by repair crews to just enter YOUR property and do repairs etc.

We certainly do not have the details. Who knows-perhaps you or the people around you complained about the weeds.

I would suggest you get over being angry AND THEN THINK HOW BIG OF DEAL YOU WANT TO MAKE OF THIS and is it worth it.

Nobody can see in and the tiny little weeds coming through the cracks in the concrete are not annoying. I pull them out when I go by. I am not angry just wanted to know if this was ok to do. States differ on these issues.

manaboutown 04-04-2018 05:30 PM

Does the lease allow you to have cats? Does your landlord know how many cats you have in the house? Are you keeping that or something else not allowed in the lease from him?

BTW, Entering the yard is not the same as entering a dwelling.

redwitch 04-04-2018 05:55 PM

I doubt the owners saw their weeding as being any sort of an issue — whether there was a gate or not, yard maintenance is obviously their responsibility (and there were enough weeds in your backyard for them to have to be there a bit). Would you have been as upset had it been someone they hired just to do weeding? A person paid to pull weeds or trim frequently does not have a schedule when a job will be done — too many other factors involved such as weather, what else had to be done in a given week or day, etc. Be grateful they care enough to maintain the outside for you and let it go. If you don’t want them going behind your gate, do more than just pull a weed when you walk by — weed the courtyard and do whatever other outside maintenance is required yourself.

goodtimesintv 04-04-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1530100)
As a landlord I never rent to anyone having a cat much less cats. They are very destructive in many ways: the scratching, urine and fecal odors, fur....

You are also fortunate your landlord weeds for you. It could be up to you and you apparently let the yard go.

Count your blessings!

I love dogs and cats, but as a former rental CYV owner/landlord, I can't believe any landlord would allow even one cat, much less 2 or more.

As for entering the courtyard to weed without notice, there are service providers like monthly pest control, plant and shrub treatment and trimming, who go in and out all the time without 24 hours notice.

That landlord is probably doing the weeding so he can see what other damage is being done to plants, grass, trees, bushes....and to see whether the courtyard looks/stinks like a yard-sized cat box full of t*rds.

There is more to this story, I suspect.

JimD215 04-04-2018 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1530177)
Does the lease allow you to have cats? Does your landlord know how many cats you have in the house? Are you keeping that or something else not allowed in the lease from him?

BTW, Entering the yard is not the same as entering a dwelling.

Yes they know about the cats that’s why we didn’t want a furnished home. We always leave the place better than we received it. Have nothing to hide. When they do work in front of the house they usually knock and I invite them in. Nice people. Just felt a little strange having someone looking in at you when you don’t expect anyone to be there.

ColdNoMore 04-04-2018 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JimD215 (Post 1530195)
Yes they know about the cats that’s why we didn’t want a furnished home. We always leave the place better than we received it. Have nothing to hide. When they do work in front of the house they usually knock and I invite them in. Nice people. Just felt a little strange having someone looking in at you when you don’t expect anyone to be there.

IMHO, you have a right to be concerned that anyone can come in the back yard of a CYV without prior notice...where you would otherwise expect privacy.

If it were me, I would read the lease again (and maybe state laws) with a magnifying glass...and see if there is something that allows the owner to come in the back yard at any time.

If not, I would put a combination lock on the gate...which you can unlock when not home in case of pest control/etc. :shrug:

I would also ignore those that are trying to make you feel guilty for expecting privacy...or questioning the legality of your pets.


I couldn't help but being reminded...of this recent post. :D

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WE have 120,000 people here and 99.8% mind their own business.

manaboutown 04-04-2018 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JimD215 (Post 1530195)
Just felt a little strange having someone looking in at you when you don’t expect anyone to be there.

Now looking in the windows is a whole 'nother matter! You most certainly do have a right to privacy, especially within the curtilage of the home. There are landlords and there are landlords... For the sake of decency and common courtesy I would expect a planned schedule of some sort and a quick knock on the door.

Again, I do not know how the lease reads and whether the tenant or landlord is responsible for yard care.

goodtimesintv 04-04-2018 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1530207)
WE have 120,000 people here and 99.8% mind their own business.:D

By writing the original post, the person invited comments from others, and those comments aren't all going to be sunshine, lollipops and rainbows.

There are two sides to every story, and the fact that the landlord was accommodating enough to allow cats says there is his side of the story, too.

Having 120,000 people here ALSO means the population is going to include at least .2% who think they are correct about landlord-tenant privacy expectations/laws, when they're not.

Mrs. Robinson 04-04-2018 07:54 PM

The OP's thread is NOT about cats!
His comment is about his right of privacy according to what his lease says.
The owner was wrong and I would have kicked his rear-end off the property.
In addition, you can't compare the owner entering the property unannounced versus a hired lawn service who would probably have to knock on your door to gain entry to the courtyard.
I am also assuming there is no lawn service employed to dig the weeds out of the cracks in the concrete.

Why would this landlord have to come into the courtyard to dig weeds out of the cracks in the concrete?
It would appear the landlord had an ulterior motive that made no sense.
I would be making plans to move; I wouldn't trust this landlord for a minute.

JimD215 04-04-2018 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1530216)
The OP's thread is NOT about cats!
His comment is about his right of privacy according to what his lease says.
The owner was wrong and I would have kicked his rear-end off the property.
In addition, you can't compare the owner entering the property unannounced versus a hired lawn service who would probably have to knock on your door to gain entry to the courtyard.
I am also assuming there is no lawn service employed to dig the weeds out of the cracks in the concrete.

Why would this landlord have to come into the courtyard to dig weeds out of the cracks in the concrete?
It would appear the landlord had an ulterior motive that made no sense.
I would be making plans to move; I wouldn't trust this landlord for a minute.

Waiting for our house to sell up north so we can purchase. Should be in contract to sell this week.


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