Lot of things Bonny. You can't change people's attitude or how they were raised to look at things

It is regional ethics and practices and manners and behavior and culture that we are really talking about.... Some Easterners think some Midwesterners sound mealy mouthed. Some Midwesterners think some Easterners talk too much and argue too much and have an attitude.

AND I made the point you made on this thread a few posts back. WE ALL HAVE DONE THAT; pulled through and didn't scan. ALL of us.
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Which gate does your sister use the transducer on?????

Bogie, my sister does not live in The Villages.

That's good information....................................... .

LOL. She lives in NY on Long Island

LOL..................how were we to know?

You couldn't tell by the accent?

OK Doug, not don't let me get NY on your a--. LOL :a20:

[QUOTE=graciegirl;934767]Lot of things Bonny. You can't change people's attitude or how they were raised to look at things

It is regional ethics and practices and manners and behavior and culture that we are really talking about.... Some Easterners think some Midwesterners sound mealy mouthed. Some Midwesterners think some Easterners talk too much and argue too much and have an attitude.

AND I made the point you made on this thread a few posts back. WE ALL HAVE DONE THAT; pulled through and didn't scan. ALL of us.

No, you can't change peoples' attitudes or the values with which they were raised, and many other things that had to do with their growing up.

I've never heard that Midwesterners sounded "mealy mouthed." If anything, Midwesterners are known for positive things and by-and-large are nicer, more cordial and laid back. I think that overall, some of the larger cities turn out what you have described. From personal experience, Easterners from certain areas, are exactly what you say.

Not to justify, but more towards an explanation of human behavior; Can you imagine if you were gate tender how repetitive the things that happen at the gate would become (visitors getting into the residents lane, residents forgot their card or forget to swipe it, half the people giving you the death stare while trying to roll thru your little hand held stop sign, etc)...Possibly she was raising her voice because she though you were hard of hearing, after all you did not heed her direction .

In the future when you make a mistake (and we all do, so don't take this as an attack) you might consider just swiping your card and going on with life, instead of yelling across the other lane to the guard (adding to the embarrassment and drawing more attention to your mistake) and holding up the lane just so you can teach her who is boss.

I am in favor of the cards being replaced with stickers that can be auto scanned. I am also in favor of optics being installed directly below the gate arms to reduce (probably end) the gate damage (think automated entrances at retail stores, the doors won't close on you if you walk into the opening).

my card can be read through the car window and also through the clear sides of of my golf carts. i am more annoyed when the gatekeepers automatically raise the gates or leave them in an open position. and what is the big deal about opening a window in the rain.

How much more are you prepared to pay in amenity fees to have this convenience???

Not sure what to expect with regard to overall cost, guessing it might be cheaper than replacing gate arms every week for eternity...

I don't know what all the fuss is about. It happened, I didn't freak out but saw the humor in it. I'm very aware of what it's like to deal with the public, which is why I didn't freak out. I certainly didn't think she was going to take the time to make an issue of it. Holding up your magic key should be enough to get one through, it is a public road. It would have taken more time for me undo my seat belt, put the car in park, walk back to the box, push the button, walk back to my car, put my seat belt back on, release the emergency break and put it in drive. She had her hand on the button so it seemed like an easy enough thing to do. It's not her job to chastise me. It's her job to keep traffic flowing in a safe manner and to give the impression that we are a gated community to act as a deterrent to crime.

I can assure you at less than $8.00 an hour, we will not save a million in a years time.

When I visited our home for the 5 years we were not full time...I would come in late. I aways felt "welcome home" when I reached the gate after the long solo drive. I love having gate greeters. Most of them love greeting.
Bad apples and bad days happen to all of us. Not understanding another person happens to all of us. I am dyslexic and have to look up the simplest of words. Some slip by and some on TOTV put me down, and have for going on 6 years now, and it hurts... I have never said anything about this. Think of others. Use care out there.

I agree. Why do we have greeters at some gates, a button that you push and the gate instantly opens at some gates and at other gates you push the button, a voice says "Welcome to the villages" and then the gate opens. We need gates but we don't really need gate greeters.

The only gate guard I know well enough to comment on is Liberty Park. This is a cross over cart tunnel from one side of BV to the other and the entrance to 6 villages, Liberty, Sunset Point, Pennycamp, Buttonwood, St Charles, Pointciana. Always a line of golf carts and cars...without a guard can't imagine how many accidents there would be. I think they earn every penny of their $8 an hour. Just saying.

Most likely! But I think we could solve a lot of problems by taking the gates down and installing serious speed bumps. It would save money on broken gate arms, greeter salaries, and still slow traffic down enough for golf carts to have their turn. The only thing missing would be someone there to give lost motorists directions. But there are few, if any, gate people in the southern regions of TV anyway.

The recent article touting the new high-def cameras and signs saying you are being filmed... well, that may make it possible to track down a motorist breaking the gates, but it's not going to help with the golf cart drivers since there's no ID on the golf carts.

I don't disagree with you about speed bumps. They definitely would slow everyone down. However, the real truth is that speed bumps kill your car. They do pretty bad damage to your axles, wheel balancing, etc., and to have to constantly drive over them, albeit slowly, would not circumvent the damage they do.

[QUOTE=CFrance;936555]Most likely! But I think we could solve a lot of problems by taking the gates down and installing serious speed bumps.

No speed bumps.

I can empathize with you as I'm Dyslexic too. It takes a lot of courage to enter the public world of those who can spell everything. When my kids were little I worked on the school newsletter. One year we sold school "tee ****s" and no body noticed, thus the April fools issue contest was born. We'd leave in the mistakes and see how many kids could find them all. They often found ones we hadn't known about. Then a great presentation was made of interrupting class time and presenting the winners with a candy bar and a coupon for an ice cream at the only store in town. My kids who could spell better then me, saw a good example of being ok not being perfect.

I like having the guards and the gates because they offer a sense of belonging to someplace special, and, in spite of the few break ins, I believe help keep us safe. It's personal and provides some income for a lot of people who need it.

Oh yeah, assume you don't own a golf cart.....take away the gates and you have a great game of dodge'em going between the carts and cars. The gates are for traffic control so both carts and cars can co-exist.

Right around the time of the last TV survey, I took someone's advise and entered my request for auto gate access with some sort of scanner on the survey. If they hear from enough of the residents year after year on the survey, maybe they will head our requests.

The gate greeters do more than just open gates. More than on e I've gotten directions to certain streets in their village. Don't know what I would do without them and their little scraps telling me exactly how to get to X street. I love their smiles and waves. Most of them are truly nice folks. I always assume that if someone gets a greeter like the OP did, that the greeter is having a bad day and wish them well.

As to getting out of the car to go back and wave my card, I think this is a really bad idea. Takes too much time and holds up traffic even more -- remove seatbelt, put car in park, turn off engine, remove key, open door, get out, walk back, wave pass at eye, get back in car, put on seatbelt, start car, start to move car and watch the gate close again before you've moved an inch! Now,why in heck didn't the car closest to the gate simply wave their card for the OP? Quick, efficient, save a lot of grief and make that driver feel good for doing something nice for someone else.

Excellent solution, Red. Sometimes people are just oblivious.

GREAT idea....I wish I would have thought of that!! I usually don't think that fast!! Now that you've said it, I will remember for future reference! Thanks Red.

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I've worked outside for 30 + years ,Rain, Snow etc. and never gave wet a second thought

Suck it up NANCY, A few drops will never hurt you.

caroline does open the gate for you...they re the best in the villages...kudos to you guys !!!!

Well, I like our gate people. I smile and wave and so do they. More importantly, the gates and gatekeepers keep those golf carts safer. That’s enough of a return-on-investment for me.

But here we are, page after page, post after post, some just asking a question, some getting all riled up. A little sniper fire even. And others just smiling and waving.

So. . .I thought maybe we could all get together and sing this song. I know you know the tune. . .

:sing: :sing: :sing: :sing: :sing:

Someone left the gate down in the rain,
I don’t think that I can take it,
‘Cause I know I’m gonna break it,
And I’ll never have that plastic card again. . .
Oh nooooooooo.

(short instrumental interlude here)

What the heck. Smile and wave. What do you think this is? Watergate?

Ahh, one of the minor conveniences for the security of living behind a gate in
"Paradise".

With the exception that anyone can go through the gate!!

Anyone take note that the level of complaining over very petty issues increase tremendously during a certain time of year and drops off rapidly after a certain time of year ?

Good Grief Lighten Up !

Don't take our gates. They serve several useful purposes and create the impression that people are watching and care about their neighborhoods. IMHO , even if the do cost $1million per year, they are worth it.

Whenever it is more convenient, I use the visitor gate, and as I pass on ahead of them, wonder what the line of three residents waiting in line Like sheep are thinking.