Speed limits
 

You make a good point. Recently we were in South Dakota where the legal speed limit was 80 mph. Of course, many were traveling at 90mph. Wide open spaces there but not so much on 466 but I don’t think 50mph is too fast for 466. The “Truck lobby” worked very hard to get the limit raised to that of a car. You see a number of truck/car accidents and those in a car come out on the short end. Is a large truck traveling at 70mph (and more) making it unsafe for a car traveling 70mph? After traveling more than two thousand miles on Interstates recently, I’m beginning to wonder… BTW, trooper’s patrolling the Interstate highways certainly have my respect.

Just about everything you just stated is wrong. More accidents are caused by slower drivers than speeders. And there are plenty of 90 year olds driving in TV and Florida, but if you don't like that age, substitute 85 or 80. The point is, that regardless of age, slow drivers are a far greater danger than a "speeder". Just ask LEOs or truck drivers.

maybe not, but you would have loved a post from about 4 years ago. This ________(fill in the blank) posted that he always intentionally drives 30 mph in the farthest left lane of 466 in the 45 mph zone because HE thinks that is fast enough. Think about that: HE decided the speed limit for everyone else, despite the decision of the county legislature in conjugation with civil traffic engineers and force of law. HE decided. Absolutely beyond arrogance and entitlement, I'm not sure there is a word for it. I hope this ______(again, fill in the blank) is still on TOTV and sees this.

“ before you move THERE”
So, you still have not bought a home in The Villages? Just come on here and do your bashing, right..?

Yes, still 90 year olds are less than 1%. A 25 year old or less thinks anybody over 50 shouldn’t be on the road.

And where do you think they come from? They brought their habits with them.

I really will never understand why all these old people are in such a hurry? They are supposed to be retired, happy, living the good life. There just isn't anything worth wrecking your golf cart about.

Smart cars are cars, are they allowed on the golf path?

For a super good time try riding your bike when one of these fast villagers are coming around. I ride the paths, most people are very nice but then there are those, we all know them.

YUP those few who stand out more than the nice guys, because they are so damn rude. By law you must be 3 feet from a bicycle.

Hey we are all going to die soon enough, what's the rush?

Wrong. Accidents are caused by impatient drivers who can't tolerate, even for a few precious minutes, someone who doesn't drive at their preferred speed, so rather than slow down for a minute or two and wait for a safe moment to pass, feel entitled to make erratic, unpredictable, and often unsignaled moves to overtake the driver.
Remember, "speed limit" refers to the maximum speed allowed by law, not the minimum speed required.

WRONG...More crashes are absolutely caused by slower drivers than speeders. They may not be in the crash, but they CAUSE many because of their arrogance or ignorance.
That's why there is the Road Rage law. So, please get out of the left lane.

Which just proves my point----ask any LEO or truck driver---it is the SLOW DRIVER who is the CAUSE of the accidents---even if they are not involved themselves.

I have asked LEOs. They concur that the slow driver is not the "cause" of the accident. That is why they are never ticketed. They are breaking no laws driving 30 in a 40. (I'm not talking about those driving below the minimum posted, which BTW is only in effect on Interstates having no fewer than 4 lanes). The accident is "caused" by the person who actually causes the accident. This is typically someone zipping around the slow driver, changing lanes without signaling. They may feel justified, but they are wrong. That's why they get the ticket.
The slow driver never gets the ticket because they are breaking no laws.

Ask far as asking truck drivers? Really?

I wouldn't want to be the guy who got in a wreck, changing lanes unsafely, cited, and defending himself in court by telling the judge, "It wasn't my fault. It was the slow driver who I was passing's fault." Not gonna fly, my friend.

Still wrong. The slow driver IS the proximate cause. And he CAN be cited. If he is camping out in the left lane he absolutely can be ticketed for obstructing traffic . And the comment had nothing to do with driving “unsafely” or illegally speeding. It had to do with drivers who lack the skills to keep up with traffic, especially in the left lane , and thereby dictating a lower speed to everyone else on the road, which in Florida IS illegal. And also dangerous hence the number one cause of accidents

Y'all have switched the conversation from the slow driver, legally driving below the speed limit, to the driver obstructing the left lane, which is a citable offense. But originally you were just talking about someone legally going slower than the speed limit.

And, while the driver obstructing traffic in the left lane is breaking the law, and may well get a citation for it, that driver would not be held accountable for the impatient driver who darts around the slow car without checking what's behind him, and signaling. Even in that circumstance the overtaking vehicle is primarily responsible for driving safely and legally.

Still don't get it? I switched NOTHING. The slow driver "legally driving below the speed limit" IS obstructing traffic (in the left lane). He IS REQUIRED BY LAW to move over if someone behind is travelling faster, even if that person is speeding. HE DOES NOT get to dictate speed to others. He might be dictating speed to someone transporting a sick child to the emergency room, or a woman in labor, or a volunteer fireman responding to a call.
But again, you've "switched", citing unsafe passing which is NOT what I was advocating nor alluding to. And yes, you're correct that it would be a poor defense in court to blame the slow driver for causing an accident that he was not a part of, but nevertheless he IS the cause of those accidents.

Re-read your original post, which I've conveniently quoted above. You start off saying nothing about the left lane, only slow drivers causing accidents. I totally "get it" that driving in the left lane below the speed limit, or even above it in certain circumstances is dangerous and against traffic laws. No argument there from me. But, indeed, if you re-read your original post, you said nothing about that.

Please show me a "road rage law", and where it targets the slow driver as being responsible for accidents.

Conceded. But clearly I was referring to the left lane---who cares if someone is driving slow in the right lane---that's where they belong.

agreed.

Show me a law that holds makers of violent video games responsible for teen shootings. Just because the law doesn't apply, doesn't mean the slow driver isn't the CAUSE

I was responding to the first quote above which seems to follow the logic that slow drivers cause accidents, and that's why there is a "road rage law"...I'd like to see the law and how it holds slow drivers accountable.

I doubt that law exists. Maybe it should

I doubt it exists also, which is why I was giving the poster who said it was somehow applicable to the discussion a chance to explain.

Thank you so much for the "chance" Please do your own research...but because I love to help.....


“SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT.” Signs like this and its closely related cousin (“KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT TO PASS”) are posted on highways around the country. The messages might seem like mere suggestions to drivers, but here in Florida it is the law. Florida State Statute 316.081 makes it a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a moving violation for any driver to dawdle in the left lane proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic and who doesn’t get out of the way of approaching vehicles.

This law is designed to cut down on dangerous, aggressive driving and road rage incidents. The goal of this law is to reserve the left lane for faster cars, so that traffic flows smoothly and vehicles have no need to rapidly switch lanes left and right to pass.

You are welcome

and Thank You!. for posting a response not relevant to my question. We are all in agreement that slow traffic in the left lane needs to move over to let faster traffic pass. My question to you wasn't about that, it was about your comment that slow traffic causes more accidents than speeders, and that's why they have "The Road Rage Law"...that's what I asked about.
What do you have to support that claim?
I have read the entirety of Statute 316.081 and it makes no reference to "Road Rage".