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Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 1885167)

Okay, that is something I was not aware of. But, in Ocala they are getting volunteers at a medical center to help vaccinate. Trinity Clinic

Registered nurse comes out of retirement to administer COVID-19 vaccines

Retiring and keeping your license active is different from retiring and letting it lapse. If this was possible, it would be done. We dont know whats going on behind the scenes. The shortage of vacvines is the issue, not having people available to administer them

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Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1885178)

Yes and no. I 100% agree with those complaining that this roll out is an unmitigated disaster. Many but not all of us knew that Covid was a real problem that was not going away on Nov 7th. And we knew that a vaccine was coming soon, whether in December or weeks later.

It was also obvious that if you want to immunize 300 million people twice, you need a big plan with complex logistics. That kind of planning should be done at the Federal level with minor adjustments available in the states and localities. Nobody seems to have done what was needed. I don't know if the Feds thought all they had to do was say "we have vaccine" come and get it and leave it all to the states while the states expected far more guidance and help than they got?

We have much more vaccine available than has been shipped. Is that the Feds not moving it even though the states are ready, or the Feds ready to go but the states not ready to accept?
And it is red states, purple states, and blue states. Almost all failing to have a working plan in place.

I disagree with your statement which perhaps you just poorly wrote that they can figure it out when they have an adequate supply. No, you figure it out before you have a supply. Like a month ago.

I could not disagree with this statement any more! The Federal Govt operates at the macro level. Vaccinations(and operations like this), need to be managed at the micro level. That's why in emergencies, FEMA comes in and 'ASSISTs' state and local entities, it does NOT TAKE OVER.

And, you might recall, that a few months ago, the Feds told the states to be prepared to administer the vaccine(s)?! And even the states can't always manage every community or municipality, as they don't know all the inner workings of it. When you have 20M vaccines, and try to roll it out to over 300M people(whom are all anxious to receive it), it's not going to go all that smooth. We just need to be patient, and await additional doses, and be happy we got this as early as we did.

If anyone on here has the answer from their couch with their large organizational, operational and reporting expertise, please become a state bureaucrat and lead the operations, as the current set of bureaucrats don't have the experience to perform all these very complex activities very well. . . and they didn't plan ahead very well with the current shortages of people

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1885173)

For any of that to be viable we need to see a supply of the vaccine....when that happens they they can figure out the delivery into our arms. I don't know that will improve significantly until the other manufacturers are allowed in the game.

Supply does need to be increased. The DPA was designed to do that. When supply exceeds demand for a "free good", then one method to prevent the stress and stupidity of "1st come,1st served" mob negativities at BOTH on-line appointment lines (which has crashed miserably) AND in person - is to do a lottery drawing for the vaccine. That or some other logical system needs to be used to prevent this chaos that is now taking place. This is NOT s Black Friday sale at Walmart!

My wife is 82 and a retired RN. She maintains her license and does the online recurring training requirement. Like most nurses it is a lifetime endeavor. My question is since we are dealing with an entertainment ticketing system is anyone scalping tickets to get a covid shot? Just asking!! BTW she is an invalid and spends days in a wheelchair. I'm very concerned about her contracting covid because I don't believe she can endure. Nice to see the young folks getting their shots!

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Originally Posted by biker1 (Post 1885599)

Read Post #28.

Yes. I read it. It’s good to know Publix has a good system.

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Originally Posted by EviesGP (Post 1885684)

No - it won't be smooth - I agree. I suggest a "lottery" system to balance great demand and (currently) a LOW supply. It would be FAIR and people would be less stressed out. We currently have UNFAIR and completely arbitrary methods of placing people in their order of receiving the vaccine. It is a completely unnecessary shame! A "cluster sham".

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Originally Posted by Merrills (Post 1885559)

We were able to get our vaccine down in Clermont on Friday. I can not say enough about their organization it was easy smooth safe and a very pleasant experience. Nurses, Emt’s, firemen , national guard, police, sheriff, administration and the mayor all involved. Sumter needs to get with it. But that experience would be hard to top

On Friday Clermont said they had more vaccine and would give it on Monday at the Arts Center starting at 8am. I drove there and they had no vaccine. 80 miles for nothing.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1885754)

A lottery system sounds fair. I've heard of a number of people running around like Chicken Little (but without their heads) every time a community offers vaccine first-come-first-served. Imagine the proportion of dosages available contrasted with the number of people (often impatient) who show up and are frustrated because it's gone. This would at least allow prioritization, as for example, in New York State, where they're starting with ONLY those 75+.

Going back to the OP, two retired nurses with active licenses spoke up just in this thread, and I know another (80 years old) volunteering to help in a vaccine clinic in a different state, where the structure had already been in place. Granted product has to be available; in Sumter County, having 2,400 doses allocated for 130,000 population goes beyond not making sense....

Florida may have high numbers of cases and vaccinations to date because it is a populous state. A comparison of PERCENTAGE of cases against population rather than NUMBER of cases in countries around the world would be a more legitimate comparison. What we find is that of ALL the countries in the world, only FIVE have a greater percentage of cases against population than the USA. Of these five, FOUR are tiny countries with small populations, where a handful of cases can significantly change the percentage (1. Andorra, 2. Montenegro, 3. San Marino, 4. Luxembourg). Only 5. Chechia has a population over a million—actually just over 10 million, in contrast with 6. USA with a population of 327 million+, hardly a comparison. The next country with a significant population, say over 100 million, is Brazil, which ranks #33, with a population of 209 million+.

I'm citing numbers, not making a judgment. Besides, I'm not knowledgeable enough about pandemics and RNA-created vaccines to even consider making a judgment—a speculation on how this came to be. But can those with the knowledge AND in a position of authority use this information to help learn how to deal with the pandemic today. It's reassuring to know that TODAY there's a contract in place with Publix to administer vaccine. Could this not have been put into place a month ago? If not, help me understand why not.

Coronavirus COVID-19 Percentage of Population Tracker, By Country

Of course the nurse would not have access on her own. They need people when the do get a massive amount of vaccine to deliver it. Right now their holding back because of lack of manpower.