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mikeycereal 09-14-2022 08:08 AM

While driving a cart I totally don't mind stopping and waiting for a car who has the right of way. Do not stop and wave me through. I take it the same way as walking. When it's slowly driving through and within 15 feet I wait for the car to keep going. I dislike being waved through. Just go I'll be fine waiting a few extra seconds. I try to make it appear that I'm not in a hurry to step off the curb. Thinking of not going all the way to the stop line while in a cart too. Some way to show that I'm willing to wait and that I'm not on the edge to jump out. Of course I don't want anyone waiting behind me so when it's my turn to go I go.

On the other hand when I was new I stopped once while in a cart roundabout because the person waiting to go into it startled me. They went all the way up to the line and waited right as I was going around near them and it threw me off. But I've since corrected myself on that because I know I have the right of way while in the roundabout. I still watch the other person about to enter to make sure they're going to stop, but without stopping myself.

Regorp 09-14-2022 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2135905)
Letting somebody in or go is dangerous, unless your traffic is at a standstill. I've seen many cars block the MMP at Eisenhower in which they have the right of way, but should use common sense.

Sometimes being polite can be downright dangerous.

golfing eagles 09-14-2022 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by rhood (Post 2136370)
I think that the law doesn't say who has the right of way. What is does is say who must yield which is the cart. I just ignore the driver until it is safe to go. They can wave and honk all they want, but I'm not moving. p i s s e s off the carts behind me.

You are correct.

But let's look at WHY you are correct:

The cross traffic in carts on the MMP has a STOP sign at the gate crossing, which is why the cart must yield the right of way. No other reason

There are many on other threads that have posted that a car always has the right of way. This is simply false, it depends on the situation.
For example, at a 4 way stop sign, there is one cart that arrived a few seconds after the first of 3 cars. The first car has the right of way, then the cart. The cart is not required to yield the right of way to all 3 cars. Also, at merge points, cars are supposed to slow down to 20, so a cart with a safe lead does not need to yield the right of way (otherwise all carts would have to stop at the merge and wait for a car a mile back).

fdpaq0580 09-14-2022 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2136535)
You are correct.

But let's look at WHY you are correct:

The cross traffic in carts on the MMP has a STOP sign at the gate crossing, which is why the cart must yield the right of way. No other reason

There are many on other threads that have posted that a car always has the right of way. This is simply false, it depends on the situation.
For example, at a 4 way stop sign, there is one cart that arrived a few seconds after the first of 3 cars. The first car has the right of way, then the cart. The cart is not required to yield the right of way to all 3 cars. Also, at merge points, cars are supposed to slow down to 20, so a cart with a safe lead does not need to yield the right of way (otherwise all carts would have to stop at the merge and wait for a car a mile back).

Yes. You may have the right of way, but if the other driver doesn't yield, for any reason, you could end up dead right. Please, always be careful. Live to enjoy another day.

GATORBILL66 09-14-2022 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2135888)
You're right there. And how many will say that there is nothing wrong with stopping your car and waving a cart through?

When you stop for carts and bicycles, you are backing up traffic behind you and you may cause and accident.

Quixote 09-14-2022 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 2135875)
[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]....Although many drivers want to be polite, when on the roadway, do not stop for those crossing on the multi-modal in the gate areas. By stopping and allowing those on the multi-modal to cross the roadway, you may cause an accident. You have the right of way....

Just repeating what most have said. If anyone gets annoyed, that's her or his problem; you don't have to let it be yours.

coffeebean 09-14-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2136378)
You and I would get along just fine.

When I am approaching the gate in my car at my usual slow speed, I do not even look to see if a golf cart or a bicycle is coming from the side. I know I have the right-of-way, so I just proceed thru the gate and go on my merry way.

That is not how I approach the gate in a car. I do look to see if there is a golf cart and an impatient driver who proceeds and will cause an accident. I will not proceed unless I know it is safe to do so.

coffeebean 09-14-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Moderator (Post 2136438)
Reply to the content of the post, not the poster.

Really? We cannot respond to a poster? Isn't that how we have discussions on this forum? People do it all the time. I am aware we just have to be courteous to our fellow posters.

golfing eagles 09-14-2022 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 2136378)
When I am approaching the gate in my car at my usual slow speed, I do not even look to see if a golf cart or a bicycle is coming from the side. I know I have the right-of-way, so I just proceed thru the gate and go on my merry way.

I'm not so sure that driving without looking is a great approach, even though you have the right of way. Also consider, in most jurisdictions, an accident is the fault of the last person who had a reasonable chance to avoid it. And even if you get by that legal hurdle, how would you feel if you killed a cyclist because you "weren't even looking"?

coffeebean 09-14-2022 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2136607)
I'm not so sure that driving without looking is a great approach, even though you have the right of way. Also consider, in most jurisdictions, an accident is the fault of the last person who had a reasonable chance to avoid it. And even if you get by that legal hurdle, how would you feel if you killed a cyclist because you "weren't even looking"?

Totally agree. As young kid, I was taught to always look both ways. That was long before I was driving but that bit of excellent advice still holds true for pedestrians and motorists alike.

Rodneysblue 09-14-2022 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 2136116)
And then if you refuse to go when in a cart after the "good samaritan" in the car waves you through, they give you the finger. These people think they are doing a good deed when in fact, it is very dangerous.

Finger them back with a smile.

dave from deland 09-14-2022 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2135888)
You're right there. And how many will say that there is nothing wrong with stopping your car and waving a cart through?

At Morse North gate as well as other gates with two lanes coming in, the car in the opposite lane might not see you letting a golf cart continue and possible hit it as it crosses in front of his car.

Shimpy 09-14-2022 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 2135875)
Here it is . . . the right of way at the gates explained from the other news site -- short and sweet:


Here are a few friendly reminders about who has the right of way at gates in The Villages.

Vehicles (and bicycles) entering gate areas in The Villages via the road have the right of way.

Vehicles, bicycles and pedestrians on the multi-modal path must yield to the vehicles entering or exiting the gates via the roadway.

Although many drivers want to be polite, when on the roadway, do not stop for those crossing on the multi-modal in the gate areas. By stopping and allowing those on the multi-modal to cross the roadway, you may cause an accident. You have the right of way.

By stopping after passing through the gate for the golf carts crossing the road on the multi-modal path, you risk the gate arm lowering onto your vehicle or the vehicle behind you. Keep going — you have the right of way.

Many drivers will motion a cart thru not realizing the glare in the windshield blocks his motion so the cart may go or not go causing a standoff and potential accident

mtdjed 09-14-2022 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 2136116)
And then if you refuse to go when in a cart after the "good samaritan" in the car waves you through, they give you the finger. These people think they are doing a good deed when in fact, it is very dangerous.

If you are getting the Finger often you might want to reconsider what you are doing. Been here 16 years and have not seen that happen.

BobnBev 09-14-2022 07:36 PM

I never realized how many people failed Driver's Ed 101, and moved to The Villages.:rant-rave::oops:


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