[SgtJohn]

I would hope that the paper would cover these types of stories. It is in the public interest to do so. We should all feel safe here. At times it feels as if we live in Stepford where everything is controlled, and nothing bad is to be talked about or admitted too. If someone has information regarding this crime, I hope they will post the information here.

[schotzyb]

My wife is also a nurse that works at the hospital but she works the day shift(7am-7pm). She has no first hand knowledge of it but said that it was the talk of the hospital.

[MSNPA]

My neighbor is a volunteer at the hospital. Today she told me there was an
"incident" in the parking lot. Someone tried to rob, either a nurse or a volunteer, as they were leaving work and walking to their car. My neighbor did not mention a gun, but that is not to say there was or wasn't one.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by SgtJohn;***848

I would hope that the paper would cover these types of stories. It is in the public interest to do so. We should all feel safe here. At times it feels as if we live in Stepford where everything is controlled, and nothing bad is to be talked about or admitted too. If someone has information regarding this crime, I hope they will post the information here.

Boy howdy.

Two jewel thefts were reported in the Daily Sun in the last seven days. Why in the world wouldn't an attempted robbery in the parking lot of the hospital NOT be reported? Seems like the same kind of bad stuff to me?

[CarGuys]

Gracie,

Tiss the Season, Desperation = Money = Drugs = Debt= More debt more Drugs.

I am Glad not one was seriously hurt. Hope they escort all out staff out to their cars for security in case a return incident is planned.

Figmo- Does Florida allow one to carry Mace? Or a strong pepper spray?

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by CarGuys;***860

Gracie,

Tiss the Season, Desperation = Money = Drugs = Debt= More debt more Drugs.

I am Glad not one was seriously hurt. Hope they escort all out staff out to their cars for security in case a return incident is planned.

Figmo- Does Florida allow one to carry Mace? Or a strong pepper spray?

Car.

Not why in the world would someone attempt to rob...but why in the world would an attempt to rob NOT be reported in the Daily Sun? They reported two other things of equal concern in the last couple of weeks. I get so tired of the conspiracy theories. And so tired of hearing that they hush things up. It is a nine to five reporting situation and sometimes you read things a couple of days after they have happened...but I think the Sun is getting better at reporting these sorts of things.

[dillywho]

Caution is always in order. There were a couple of incidents a few years ago not too long after we moved here (moved in in Feb. 2004) where some people were accosted when they arrived home. I don't remember if it happened inside the garage or in the driveway, but yes, they did happen. As someone else has stated, we are not immune here. Remember, Villagers are not the only ones using the hospital, entertainment venues, hotels, restaurants, etc. The bigger we get, the more vulnerable we will be. Caution and paranoia are not the same. One is reasonable, the other is not.

[SgtJohn]

Hearing about it a few days later doesn't help the person who is rob, mugged or murdered the next day. The area, and the paper, is large enough to have a "Hot desk" where late reported items can be handled, and updated as quickly as possible. We all understand that the days of "Stop The Presses" is long gone, but putting the daiy to bed by 5PM, doesn't help or keep people informed in a proper way. They should consider editting stories up to a later time, like 9, 10 or 11PM. They will still have the paper available the next morning.

Just my thoughts.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by SgtJohn;***868

Hearing about it a few days later doesn't help the person who is rob, mugged or murdered the next day. The area, and the paper, is large enough to have a "Hot desk" where late reported items can be handled, and updated as quickly as possible. We all understand that the days of "Stop The Presses" is long gone, but putting the daiy to bed by 5PM, doesn't help or keep people informed in a proper way. They should consider editting stories up to a later time, like 9, 10 or 11PM. They will still have the paper available the next morning.

Just my thoughts.

One of your previous posts says that you JUST moved here. Give it a couple of weeks. You will see it isn't bad at all, The Sun.

And WELCOME to you Sgt John. I hope you enjoy every second of a thousand years here with us in lower Paradise!

[CarGuys]

Guess I am used to working for media that reports EVERYTHING! sometimes maybe to much to quick.

Good Point Cracie

Originally Posted by graciegirl;***862

Car.

Not why in the world would someone attempt to rob...but why in the world would an attempt to rob NOT be reported in the Daily Sun? They reported two other things of equal concern in the last couple of weeks. I get so tired of the conspiracy theories. And so tired of hearing that they hush things up. It is a nine to five reporting situation and sometimes you read things a couple of days after they have happened...but I think the Sun is getting better at reporting these sorts of things.

[buggyone]

Instead of these comments about bashing the Daily Sun, if someone would pick up their phone and call the Sumter County Sheriff Office - this whole thing could be resolved very easily.

[cappyjon431]

Well, I hate to say it, but it was not a rumor, it was confirmed by my wife's supervisor at the hospital. Not a lot of details, but a gun was involved, it was a female hospital employee (not a nurse but also not a volunteer). and it happened at a remote parking lot by the helicopter landing pad.

Hopefully the Sun will report it in the next day or so just to put the word out there--remember, a lot of TV residents are not on TOTV. I never intended to bash the Sun, like I posted earlier it does a good job for what it does, but comprehensive reporting (especially crime reporting) should not be expected. They do run the "Ploice Blotter" in the local section (I think on Mondays), but they usually only show a log of arrests, not of crimes that were committed. Gracie, I know that they reported the jewelry thefts, but in my mind there is a big difference between a burglary and a robbery. A robbery with a gun is a lot scarier to most folks and certainly could be considered very bad "publicity." I certainly am not claiming "conspiracy theory," I just don't have real high expectations of the local paper.

I offered to drive my wife to work tonight in case she was scared. She said it was not necessary because she drives her cart to work and parks right outside the hospital doors. She also said that since she only carries a dollar in her purse to work, she would consider asking the robber for some cash to help defray our Christmas expenses. At least she has a sense of humor about it.

[asianthree]

Well not here to bash the sun or anything else but i worked in a Clevland hospital and we have had things happen more than you can count, very good friend was robbed, beaten and her car jacked. It was never reported in any ohio paper. We have armed guards that saw what was going on and came as quick as they could, it was all handled within, never in print. But we were all informed by the admin to be very aware if we were not comfortable ask someone to take us out to our car. So as for the lack of news print, some hospitals just handle a problem as they see fit.

[joannej]

Thanks cappijohn for starting the thread and making us aware of the situation that occurred. Guns are everywhere...why wouldn't they be used against others in these unfortunate desperate times for some. Just glad that no one got hurt.

[cappyjon431]

Originally Posted by BOMBERO;***810

Rumor - "an UNVERIFIED account or explanation of events circulating from person to person and pertaining to an object, event, or issue in public concern"

No, I did not hear anything.

1. It sounded to me like you were bashing The Sun. I don't really care if you do. I pretty much agree with your take on The Sun.

2. I don't believe I suggested you "wanted" to start a rumor (please see definition) I said " if ". And I never said the word LYING about you, your wife or her co-workers. Please don't put words in my mouth and read things with more care.

3. There is always potential danger out there. I hope you're not just learning that.

Thanks for the definition of "rumor." That does not mean that rumors don't neccesarily turn out to be true. I also don't think it is necessary to squelch a rumor--sometimes getting information out to the public can be important. I think that it was evident in my initial post that I was asking anybody on TOTV if they could confirm this "rumor." I was not stating it as fact, just something that I had heard and it disturbed me.

1. I don't know where you thought I was bashing the Sun. I have maintained all along that the Sun is very good at what they do, but that we shouldn't expect any type of in-depth investigative journalism.

I am not one of those conspiracy theorists. The developers own the paper and they have a right to print what they want. It is their paper. Would I like to see better reporting? Of course, but I don't expect it. I think we are on the same page here.

Gracie, I know that the Sun reported the jewel heists, and that they run the "Police Blotter" once a week (I think on Mondays). I also think that a robbery with a gun is scarier (at least to me) than a burglary. Obviously they are both horrible, but violent crime is more disturbing to the public and probably considered worse publicity for residents and potential residents. It SHOULD be reported. Hopefully it will be.

2. Bombero, you are playing a semantic game here and using a rhetorical device often employed by disreputable politicians. You wrote:

"If you wanted to know if it happened you could call Sumter Co.

But.... if you just wanted to bash The Daily Sun and start a nasty rumor
about the community we live in than don't call."

Lets examine why I took offense to this. You are using a logical fallacy which essentially limits the number of possibilities out there.

For example, you wrote "If you wanted to know if it happened you could call Sumter Co." Certainly true, but did you ever consider that I could also go on TOTV and ask if anybody could confirm this event? That is exactly what I did. That is one possibility that you overlooked. Another is that I could get confirmation from another source...which I also did.

You also used the classic "But," essentially saying that if I don't call the police, than I am either A) Bashing the Sun or B) Starting a nasty rumor about our community. It is an "If-than" statement, logically (and linguistically very powerful) saying if you this is done than this is what logically follows. Once again it severely limits the realm of logical possibilities out there. Do you believe it was possible that I was neither bashing the Sun nor intentionally starting a nasty rumor about our community? Truth be told, I was doing neither. I heard about a potentially troubling incident, I asked if anyone could verify it, and put the info out there so that others could be warned of a possible threat.

It seems as if you were questioning my motivations (bash the Sun, starting a nasty rumor) without giving me the courtesy of the benefit of the doubt. You didn't say anyone was lying, but rhetorically if you accuse someone of "starting a nasty rumor" it is implied.

3. As to your statement that "There is always potential danger out there. I hope you're not just learning that." A little obvious don't you think? "I hope you're just not learning that" is a little derogatory. The question is not: Is there danger out there? Obviously there is. The question should be, should people be warned about potential dangers of which they might not be aware.