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senior citizen 10-05-2013 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 758413)
That murder took place in 2008. It was not a random killing.

Can anyone think of any other violent crime in The Villages since 2008? The only other one I know of was in 2009 which was a domestic violence with shooting. Anyone else?


6 Arrested In Slaying Of 15-Year-Old Boy | News - Home

This was the original newspaper article. 2011. It's close to The Villages.

The other day I read about the first trial and first sentence of a female, now 20 years of age.

I just read the entire article YET AGAIN (HYPERLINK ABOVE)........hard to even imagine; keep scrolling down.

buggyone 10-05-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 758420)
6 Arrested In Slaying Of 15-Year-Old Boy | News - Home

This was the original newspaper article. 2011. It's close to The Villages.

The other day I read about the first trial and first sentence of a female, now 20 years of age.

I just read the entire article YET AGAIN (HYPERLINK ABOVE)........hard to even imagine; keep scrolling down.

I did not say close to The Villages! I said in The Villages.

You would be hard pressed to find a community of similar size that is any safer than The Villages.

senior citizen 10-06-2013 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DougB (Post 758416)
They have murders and meth labs in Vermont, why not ask your local realtor?

I meant for some unsuspecting retiree coming to Florida and purchasing a home.......where these lowlifes think they are going to cook meth.

There was another home in TV where they were making it in the attic of an elderly woman......or some room in her house. The attics are not that big.

If you check back, you will notice that it was not I who initiated this thread on meth labs.

Our Vermont drug problems are among the youth up to 30 somethings.
Not retirement age or 58 year olds who live with their mothers in a retirement community.......and possibly mow your lawns.

On another thread, it is the "youth" being rude in the new square of Brownwood that is worrisome to some people.....not the senior citizens running around alarming folks.

Murders are rare in Vermont. The last horrendous ones I can remember are the 14 year old Brooke Bennett case up in Randolph . She was "lured" by her pedophile uncle (a habitual offender in that realm) to come to a party at his place........he assaulted and strangled her and buried her body in a shallow grave.

He just copped a plea deal for life without parole. A sordid "family" story.

The other one was a snow removal guy and his gal pal who asked a respected young teacher to come and help them out, using the ruse that their car had broken down.............she drove to the spot, with her young toddler in the car.........the rest is history. She is dead. They are dragging out their potential trial. She trusted the wrong person; someone who had shoveled her driveway of snow.

Again, it was not I who initiated this negative thread.

If truth be told, we wouldn't live in the area where these young addicts are from (in our town)........of course, there is no stopping where they might decide to do their mischief.....such as breaking and entering to steal money, possessions, jewelry, etc in order to "fund" their drug habit.

All residents are unhappy with this situation in our town, but the cops are doing a great job in rounding them up and booking them.

Addiction is a serious problem in all of the United States. It's an honest wondering to "wonder" if one is buying a meth home or a home where a murder has been committed. The residue of drugs in a home can affect one's health.

All states' laws are different................so my asking any one of our realtor friends or neighbors wouldn't help answer the question about disclosure in your area of TV, correct?

graciegirl 10-06-2013 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 758420)
6 Arrested In Slaying Of 15-Year-Old Boy | News - Home

This was the original newspaper article. 2011. It's close to The Villages.

The other day I read about the first trial and first sentence of a female, now 20 years of age.

I just read the entire article YET AGAIN (HYPERLINK ABOVE)........hard to even imagine; keep scrolling down.


Ocala is in another city, Senior. What you must consider is that moving to almost any state other than Vermont will give you MORE population. And unfortunately more crime.

The Villages is still one of the safest places to live in this country.

tucson 10-06-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 758413)
That murder took place in 2008. It was not a random killing.

Can anyone think of any other violent crime in The Villages since 2008? The only other one I know of was in 2009 which was a domestic violence with shooting. Anyone else?

Are you talking about the murder of a Villager husband who was killed by their live-in adult daughter's druggie boyfriend? It was on the Orlando 6p News at the time.

Patty55 10-06-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tucson (Post 758565)
Are you talking about the murder of a Villager husband who was killed by their live-in adult daughter's druggie boyfriend? It was on the Orlando 6p News at the time.

Yes, that is the "crime wave" she is speaking of.

Karron 10-06-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 758322)
Right on target. I thought we were discouraged from posting any negativity with regard to life in THE VILLAGES?
Go figure, right??? Here I went and deleted all my negativity re all the sex offenders, etc.

Good post Karron.

Thanks Senior Citizen.....
Some times the truth, (sad to say), just isn't pretty!:22yikes:

Karron 10-06-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 757929)
Kudos to LCSO (Lake sheriff) for having officers on the ball to spot this one. Cooking in a Gatorade bottle...wow.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::bigbow::b igbow::bigbow:

skyc6 10-06-2013 11:34 AM

Compared to any other 100,000+ city in this country, our crime rate is almost nonexistant. There will always be the occasional incident, anywhere you live, but for the most part, this is a really safe place to live. We should work to keep it that way by watching out for our own neighborhoods and each other.

senior citizen 10-06-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 758447)
Ocala is in another city, Senior. What you must consider is that moving to almost any state other than Vermont will give you MORE population. And unfortunately more crime.

The Villages is still one of the safest places to live in this country.

I've said I felt safe there. TV is also surrounded by other towns.

We know where Ocala is; to the north of the Villages.

Summerfield, where the teenaged murderers were located (now in prison) is fairly close to The Villages......I just looked it up on MapQuest:


US-27 N to SE Highway 42 8.75 miles

13 mins / 14 mins based on current traffic

Summerfield is in Marion County........ditto, some of The Villages is located in Marion County. Our rental home was in Marion County.

If some unruly teens can "get to" Brownwood....then other teens or young adults can surely drive from Summerfield (if they chose to) to The Villages.

I remember when this all happened. It was a planned gruesome murder.
What kind of families did they come from? I wonder.

One of the girls just had her trial. Obviously, they've aged, but at the time of the crime they were 15, 16, 17 and 18.....I believe there were six of them who lured the 15 year old to a home........I won't repeat the details which are in the newspaper article.........posted elsewhere.

Had I not read the Ocala newspaper, I would not have been aware of it.......but that doesn't mean it never happened.
I would just have been living in la la land.

At the time I inquired of the realtors in Spruce Creek and Stone Crest.
At first they said that they had never heard of it. What????
They lived in Summerfield.

Finally, they "remembered" the murder.....and the gruesome details of cutting up the body, burning the body parts in the backyard fire pit and then disposing of the body in pails??? Oh, they also broke his knees.

I can see why some posters have stated they felt uneasy with the teens at Brownwood.

One thing I know........if a group of teenagers that age managed to carry out a MURDER as gruesome as that in our town......EVERYONE would have known about it within the time they were captured......and everyone would have been following the events leading up to the trial. And, last but not least, everyone would have been HORRIFIED.

That boy didn't deserve to die like that , at the hands of his "friends" just because his 15 year old girlfriend was ticked off at him. The article is posted elsewhere.

Sad but true.........those kids weren't studying hard to get into a good university.

Patty55 10-06-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 758639)
I've said I felt safe there. TV is also surrounded by other towns.

We know where Ocala is; to the north of the Villages.

Summerfield, where the teenaged murderers were located (now in prison) is fairly close to The Villages......I just looked it up on MapQuest:


US-27 N to SE Highway 42 8.75 miles

13 mins / 14 mins based on current traffic

Summerfield is in Marion County........ditto, some of The Villages is located in Marion County. Our rental home was in Marion County.

If some unruly teens can "get to" Brownwood....then other teens or young adults can surely drive from Summerfield (if they chose to) to The Villages.

I remember when this all happened. It was a planned gruesome murder.
What kind of families did they come from? I wonder.

One of the girls just had her trial. Obviously, they've aged, but at the time of the crime they were 15, 16, 17 and 18.....I believe there were six of them who lured the 15 year old to a home........I won't repeat the details which are in the newspaper article.........posted elsewhere.

Had I not read the Ocala newspaper, I would not have been aware of it.......but that doesn't mean it never happened.
I would just have been living in la la land.

At the time I inquired of the realtors in Spruce Creek and Stone Crest.
At first they said that they had never heard of it. What????
They lived in Summerfield.

Finally, they "remembered" the murder.....and the gruesome details of cutting up the body, burning the body parts in the backyard fire pit and then disposing of the body in pails??? Oh, they also broke his knees.

I can see why some posters have stated they felt uneasy with the teens at Brownwood.

One thing I know........if a group of teenagers that age managed to carry out a MURDER as gruesome as that in our town......EVERYONE would have known about it within the time they were captured......and everyone would have been following the events leading up to the trial. And, last but not least, everyone would have been HORRIFIED.

That boy didn't deserve to die like that , at the hands of his "friends" just because his 15 year old girlfriend was ticked off at him. The article is posted elsewhere.

Sad but true.........those kids weren't studying hard to get into a good university.

...And the point is? Yes, several years ago some teens did a horrible thing, they were caught, convicted and Charlie Ely was sentenced to life without parole. She, IMO, will serve the entire life sentence (Jose Baez is handling her appeal-LOL). WHAT HAS THIS TO DO WITH THE VILLAGES.

I'll take your word that such a thing would never happen in Bennington, IMO, killing someone in such a place would just be considered redundant.

Maybe the realtor was new to the area and unaware. Maybe he was there to sell a house not spin his wheels and engaging in fishmonger gossip. Who knows.

Maybe after 5+ years of research you need to accept that this place is not for you.

DougB 10-06-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Karron (Post 758597)
Thanks Senior Citizen.....
Some times the truth, (sad to say), just isn't pretty!:22yikes:

Posting a picture of an old woman's house who we have no evidence she had any idea what her lowlife son was doing (although seeing his picture she is not too bright if she didn't know) is also sad to say and not very pretty

PammyJ 10-06-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 758639)
I've said I felt safe there. TV is also surrounded by other towns.

We know where Ocala is; to the north of the Villages.

Summerfield, where the teenaged murderers were located (now in prison) is fairly close to The Villages......I just looked it up on MapQuest:


US-27 N to SE Highway 42 8.75 miles

13 mins / 14 mins based on current traffic

Summerfield is in Marion County........ditto, some of The Villages is located in Marion County. Our rental home was in Marion County.

If some unruly teens can "get to" Brownwood....then other teens or young adults can surely drive from Summerfield (if they chose to) to The Villages.

I remember when this all happened. It was a planned gruesome murder.
What kind of families did they come from? I wonder.

One of the girls just had her trial. Obviously, they've aged, but at the time of the crime they were 15, 16, 17 and 18.....I believe there were six of them who lured the 15 year old to a home........I won't repeat the details which are in the newspaper article.........posted elsewhere.

Had I not read the Ocala newspaper, I would not have been aware of it.......but that doesn't mean it never happened.
I would just have been living in la la land.

At the time I inquired of the realtors in Spruce Creek and Stone Crest.
At first they said that they had never heard of it. What????
They lived in Summerfield.

Finally, they "remembered" the murder.....and the gruesome details of cutting up the body, burning the body parts in the backyard fire pit and then disposing of the body in pails??? Oh, they also broke his knees.

I can see why some posters have stated they felt uneasy with the teens at Brownwood.

One thing I know........if a group of teenagers that age managed to carry out a MURDER as gruesome as that in our town......EVERYONE would have known about it within the time they were captured......and everyone would have been following the events leading up to the trial. And, last but not least, everyone would have been HORRIFIED.

That boy didn't deserve to die like that , at the hands of his "friends" just because his 15 year old girlfriend was ticked off at him. The article is posted elsewhere.

Sad but true.........those kids weren't studying hard to get into a good university.

Senior Citizen, I think a couple of days ago you were inquiring about Indialantic By the Sea. If the crime in and surrounding The Villages is bothersome, you might want to cross Brevard County off of your list. Indialantic is just across the river from a high crime area where drugs, shootings and murder happen on a regular basis.. Just about 1-2 miles away. In the past couple of years one of the biggest prescription drug rings was busted right in Indialantic FL. Just saying... I think we are in a great place in The Villages! But crime is everywhere!

senior citizen 10-06-2013 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Karron (Post 758597)
Thanks Senior Citizen.....
Some times the truth, (sad to say), just isn't pretty!:22yikes:

It does seem like a cover up. This is the case I am talking about, below.
Just saying........the "surrounding area" is not a utopia. Please scroll down to read it all.



Plot in Grisly Murder of Florida Teen Followed Fight, Authorities Say | Fox News


When 14 year old Brooke Bennett was murdered in Randolph Vermont, the entire state was saddened. Everyone knew about it. Everyone also knew and acknowledged that her uncle, a convicted sexual predator, had been released from jail.......and went back to his old ways.........whereas they should have thrown the key away.

As for those who say I shouldn't move to THE VILLAGES......researching other places in order to give my husband an opportunity to enjoy boating is not disloyalty or anything else against The Villages. And people wonder why it has a "Stepford Wives" reputation that follows it......does no one think for themselves?

TV is beautiful. I've said that over and over again. They've created a great atmosphere of loveliness and great zoning, great planning....due to perfect marketing. Sometimes I think many of the posters here work for The Villages.

We will move wherever we please.......in due time.....but not in any of these surrounding towns..........we will "stay safe"in the "bubble" that is TV.

senior citizen 10-06-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PammyJ (Post 758671)
Senior Citizen, I think a couple of days ago you were inquiring about Indialantic By the Sea. If the crime in and surrounding The Villages is bothersome, you might want to cross Brevard County off of your list. Indialantic is just across the river from a high crime area where drugs, shootings and murder happen on a regular basis.. Just about 1-2 miles away. In the past couple of years one of the biggest prescription drug rings was busted right in Indialantic FL. Just saying... I think we are in a great place in The Villages! But crime is everywhere!

That's good to know and I appreciate it.

CFrance 10-06-2013 01:46 PM

Senior, I feel that you are taking a part and applying it to a whole, I.e., painting whole towns with the brushstroke of a few miscreants.

We go to Ocala all the time. We go to Wildwood all the time. We go to the safe parts and not the unsafe parts. We lived in a MI town with a high crime rate in one area. We just didn't go to that area. A lot of places have unsafe parts. TV doesn't, in my opinion.

I don't think one should be concerned about TV safety due to possible questionable parts of surrounding communities or taking one or two crimes happening over a long period of time and using them to label the area.

Golfingnut 10-06-2013 02:05 PM

Half full or half empty. I am now on my soap box. I, I say I, lord have mercy, I say I find life more enjoyable seeing the glass as half full.

Hey honey, since your going in anyway, bring me another beer. Ups, is this a live mike incident.

Jejuca 10-06-2013 02:26 PM

Senior - Based on your previous posts you should think carefully before moving here. Although you say it is beautiful you are very critical of it and find many negative things to say about it. Luckily, The Villages is not for everyone. We are fairly new to The Villages. My husband loves it and I am still making up my mind. There are things I really like and things I don't (mostly the heat). I can assure you there aren't any Stepford wives. From what we have experienced and observed this is a community of inclusion and acceptance.
Are there problems? Of course, all communities have problems. How the residents in the communities address the problems is the key.

kittygilchrist 10-06-2013 02:40 PM

Meanwhile back at the meth lab...

Golfingnut 10-06-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 758760)
Meanwhile back at the meth lab...

Really, I must be a real light weight restricting myself to Bud Light.

I tried grass in Vietnam, but it made me paranoid, so I went back to Bacardi and Coke.

CFrance 10-06-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 758763)
Really, I must be a real light weight restricting myself to Bud Light.

I tried grass in Vietnam, but it made me paranoid, so I went back to Bacardi and Coke.

On, that's so sophomoric, GN! Rum and coke...

Golfingnut 10-06-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 758771)
On, that's so sophomoric, GN! Rum and coke...

Butt it be da truth.

CFrance 10-06-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 758774)
Butt it be da truth.

:ohdear:

OldManTime 10-07-2013 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 757929)
Kudos to LCSO (Lake sheriff) for having officers on the ball to spot this one. Cooking in a Gatorade bottle...wow.

Kitty, it was the Lady Lake Police

graciegirl 10-07-2013 07:01 AM

If we speed read we learned on this thread not to use speed. And to be surprised where it is made. and........

Not to trust certain landscapers and other people's kids.

I can isolate information and react to it just like the best of them.

senior citizen 10-07-2013 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jejuca (Post 758748)
Senior - Based on your previous posts you should think carefully before moving here. Although you say it is beautiful you are very critical of it and find many negative things to say about it. Luckily, The Villages is not for everyone. We are fairly new to The Villages. My husband loves it and I am still making up my mind. There are things I really like and things I don't (mostly the heat). I can assure you there aren't any Stepford wives. From what we have experienced and observed this is a community of inclusion and acceptance.
Are there problems? Of course, all communities have problems. How the residents in the communities address the problems is the key.

I appreciate your post. We did not find anything at all to be critical about when we were visiting in THE VILLAGES. We both liked it very very much.

It was beautiful. The homes are great. The people we met were all friendly and helpful. Didn't meet anyone we wouldn't want to live near.

The restaurants were great....Lake Sumter Landing was great. The landscaping all around was super pretty......the entire place was neat and well thought out. We were highly impressed. I've said it over and over again.

Something is getting lost in the translation...........

I realize the towns surrounding TV are in a world of their own and we all know to stay out of not so safe areas..........but it's the DENIAL when anyone at all (not just me) brings up something not so nice that happens.

All I've been saying is that in our town, people WANT TO KNOW what is happening and the neighborhood "grapevine" and such, plus the daily morning town newspaper prints ALL THE NEWS.....good and bad.

We are not in denial that society has changed. I can't rehash it all again.

But do appreciate your thoughts.......I guess "thinking aloud" is considered critical and expressing one's "wonderings" is also critical and negative.

Not up here it isn't.

I know...... "Stay up there".....

Patty55 10-07-2013 10:52 AM

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Sure, it's all fun and games and now I need to get a new lawn guy. Man, my shrubs were doing great, they trimmed a bit every week and he seemed to be a true weed specialist.

ALR5ALR 10-07-2013 11:10 AM

Man does not live with his mother on palo alto drive. Has not lived there for months.

Indydealmaker 10-07-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 759212)
Sure, it's all fun and games and now I need to get a new lawn guy. Man, my shrubs were doing great, they trimmed a bit every week and he seemed to be a true weed specialist.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Halle 10-07-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 759212)
Sure, it's all fun and games and now I need to get a new lawn guy. Man, my shrubs were doing great, they trimmed a bit every week and he seemed to be a true weed specialist.

Patty I volunteer to remove that weed for you.

:angel:


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