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Well............. no. First off, concealed carry authority does not include shotguns. You sound like you are taking advice from VP Joe (nut job) Biden... "Go out on the balcony and fire your shotgun." Stupid advice, and illegal in his state..... and here. If a person is simply on your property there is no offense, not even trespass. Trespass can only be charged after you tell them to leave and they don't do so. Then the police MAY arrest them, if they continue to refuse to leave after the police arrive. It is a misdemeanor and must be committed in the presence of the police for the police to make a lawful arrest. If you display a firearm in the absence of a threat YOU are subject to arrest. The simple answer, if the person on your property is taking or damaging your property, is to call the police. That is what they are for. Don't be the next George Zimmerman. If you have a concealed weapon permit, keep the weapon concealed. Even if you feel threatened, return to your house and call the police. I have been involved in a few line-of-duty shootings where I was entirely in the right, but even then the paperwork and the stress of having the prosecutor decide that you were right is not an enjoyable experience. As in the case under discussion.......... they were only flowers. You can get new ones. Chill out. :police: |
The way the laws are today your lucky if you get away with protecting your life.....forget about your property, try to protect that and you will probably get arrested.....
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I would think young people walking through yards and cutting flowers would raise a red flag and be worth a call to the cops. You said the your neighbor called the cops did they show up? |
I think this "rose thief", is a person has lost their ability, to reason properly.
Hence, when told to get off the property, he just stood there!!! Anybody with a sense of right and wrong, would have scurried away, when confonted in this manner. I may be wrong and frequently am. :smiley: |
Last night my hubbie and I were just saying how wonderful it is to live in a place where you could have a whole row of potted Poinsettias on the stage like they did at Brownwood last night without worrying if they would be stolen. Now I wonder if the staff puts them away after the entertainment is over.
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A lot of speculation about this incident. I'll throw another one out. Maybe these two had the wrong house and they were told to get these to analyze for a problem with the roses. Pests, bugs, fungus etc.
It doesn't seem logical that two younger adult males would be picking roses and putting them into a cooler for themselves or for their significant other for that matter. But I can believe they could accidently gone to the wrong property. Finding a certain property isn't always an easy thing to do in TV---especially if you are not a resident. |
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Why would you steal FLOWERS from private property? There are flowers everywhere in Florida. |
and now the end of the story...
I was teasing our neighbor about his stolen roses. He said he saw the same young man working for one of the lawn companies yesterday. He went to the owner of the company and told him what happened. The rose owner is a kind, generous person and said he would have given him the roses if he had only asked. He thinks the young man's English was limited and just said he like roses. The fact that the man just stood there and didn't leave is what really creeped him out.
When the sheriff came, the officers said we should always call when something strange happens like this because you don't know what the motive is or if drugs are involved. This morning, the lawn company owner had his truck parked in front of our driveway. I could hear him telling one of the workers that you just don't take roses from people. So perhaps he really didn't know that you don't do that. |
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1) Individuals undertaking bad behavior without regard for the consequences. Notice he just stood there when confronted and showed up in another yard later. One poster's comment about getting out his firearm did not seem to me to be unwarranted when the person did not leave...he became a threat to the homeowner at that moment and may have had to face the consequences of his action!!!! 2) Many members of society (ie our board here) seem to want to minimize the bad actions of individuals, make excuses for them, and denigrate an honest opinion of how one poster would handle this threat to his property. |
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Bless you dear girl for this follow up explanation. It really did seem so strange. I wouldn't want you or anyone to be in danger. |
so, all of this hand wringing posts about dementia, thieves, stand your ground, carry or not carry, shoot and ask questions later..............
were all a waste of time.....???? |
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it is conceivable that a homeowner could simply stand on his property with a weapon tucked in his waistline saying nothing but glaring at trespasser I do not own a gun . |
I agree with Gerryann. Maybe a little compassion instead of anger
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It would be a great thing if ALL the companies that come into the villages to do work tell all their workers there are rules and laws here and one is you never take anything from someones property even flowers.
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Moving truck in private driveway or Rose Thief in your yard.
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Anyone else think this truck was not breaking any laws? As with the rose thief what would you have done if it were your driveway? If the police and community watch would do NOTHING to stop this I doubt they would stop a rose thief. Both community watch and the SCSO Deputy said the truck was not breaking any laws and it was a civil matter. The truck was repeatedly within 6 inches OR LESS of the garage door on a private driveway but no laws were broken per SCSO.. Neither agency would do a thing to stop this HEAVY truck from repeatedly pulling up into the drive and making more marks on a private driveway and the owners were absent. Then the trucking company tried to deny with the property owner that they had made the marks but the photos proved it, really lucky this heavy truck did not crack the concrete. Truck was trying to back up and turn to back down a cul-de-sac and ended up in a private drive in the process. You're pretty much on your own...don't expect much from SCSO or Community Watch. |
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Maybe he has a loved one at home is dying and that person loves roses!!! We need not jump to conclusions, just saying |
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That truck IS trespassing and should be held responsible for the damage on that driveway, pictures say it all.
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