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Bill14564 10-19-2023 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 2266582)
Look at the signs as you enter the roundabout. The right lane at entry has two options--take the first exit or continue through the roundabout. The left lane at entry also has two options--continue through the roundabout or proceed to the third exit. If you are going to exit at the third exit it would behoove you to move into the right lane, if possible, before exiting. Otherwise, be aware of other cars in the roundabout and adjust your speed accordingly. If you have to miss your exit, so be it. Go around one more time.

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Originally Posted by bragones (Post 2266590)
Left lane can go right if there's a dashed line. I wouldn't do it but lots of people do and they do it without looking to see if a vehicle is on their right.

How can we have 90 posts on the umpteenth thread on this topic and people STILL post incorrect information?

- DO NOT CHANGE LANES IN THE ROUNDABOUT. At the 2nd or 3rd exit the inside/left lane exits to the left lane, no lane changes required

- THE INSIDE/LEFT LANE DOES NOT GO RIGHT / EXIT AT THE FIRST EXIT. Very simple, if you enter the roundabout in the left lane and therefore are in the inside lane of the circle you DO NOT exit at the first exit.

ron32162 10-19-2023 08:48 AM

it would have been your fault

Rainger99 10-19-2023 08:57 AM

And away we go……..
Prediction 65 posts!

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2266185)
I'll raise, and go all in.

Good call! Should hit 100 by noon!

Cobrasally 10-19-2023 09:08 AM

Actually, it's quite simple: you NEVER turn left from a right lane. Ever notice those white arrows painted in the lanes? Right hand lane has single, straight ahead arrow indicating traffic to exit, while the left lane has a double headed arrow, indicating traffic may continue around OR exit the roundabout.

You were in the wrong, and would have been at fault had you hit the other vehicle.

jlaurieb 10-19-2023 09:18 AM

Roundabout etiquette
 
Every roundabout has a sign from either Morris or Buena Vista indicating the access route for each vehicle.

The outer lane of the roundabout is only meant as an exit lane once inside the circle it is not a left-turning lane.

The outer lane is only a straight through lane or a right turn lane. The inner lane can go straight through or turn left.

This is confusing for quite a few people, because they see a broken white line, but that line is meant for people entering from the right to cross into the traffic circle.

I am not certain whether the neighborhood roads intersecting the main roads (Morse and Buena Vista) have the same signage, but it would be helpful. It would also be helpful if people understood them.

It seems that every Villager should have a course in how to navigate roundabouts before they are handed the keys to their property.

jimmy o 10-19-2023 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MrChip72 (Post 2266123)
I always thought the that the rule of thumb is that when you're approaching a roundabout and you plan to exit from the 1st or 3rd (right or left exits) of the roundabout, you should always be in the outside lane well before entering the roundabout.

No. Number one rule of roundabouts”You never change lanes in Roundabout”. If you enter from left lane you exit at 12 or 9 from left lane.

pauld315 10-19-2023 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2266095)
We were in a double- 2 lane round about, in the right lane. As I was about to pass a right hand turn and continue on in the round about, a driver next to me in the left lane made a sudden turn in front of me to exit the round about. I had to slam on the brake to avoid getting hit.

This started me thinking- If you are in the left lane of the round about you always run the risk that someone in the right lane will be in your way when it's time for your exit. Just because you have been passing right turns without taking them- someone just entering on the right could be in your way when you take the 3rd exit.

What am I missing? is there a way for someone in the right lane to avoid getting hit by a driver turning in from the left- or is it 100% trusting every driver in the left to not hit you? Seems like a crap shoot.

Thanks

You would be in the wronglane if that was to happen. Think about what lanes you would be in when entering a normal 4 way intersection. If you want to turn right you would be in the right hand lane. If you wanted to go straight, you would be in either lane and if you want to turn left or do a u turn you would be in the left lane. The same applies to a 2 lane roundabout. Once you enter the roundabout do not change lanes until yoiu are out of the roundabout. Very simple

Larchap49 10-19-2023 09:47 AM

Lanes in roundabout
 
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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2266095)
We were in a double- 2 lane round about, in the right lane. As I was about to pass a right hand turn and continue on in the round about, a driver next to me in the left lane made a sudden turn in front of me to exit the round about. I had to slam on the brake to avoid getting hit.

This started me thinking- If you are in the left lane of the round about you always run the risk that someone in the right lane will be in your way when it's time for your exit. Just because you have been passing right turns without taking them- someone just entering on the right could be in your way when you take the 3rd exit.

What am I missing? is there a way for someone in the right lane to avoid getting hit by a driver turning in from the left- or is it 100% trusting every driver in the left to not hit you? Seems like a crap shoot.

Thanks

If you are in the rt lane you are supposed to exit on the 1st or 2nd exit NOT continue to the 3rd exit. That is clearly stated on the signs as you are entering the roundabout. A rules to live by is do not drive in a roundabout with another car next to you

kayak 10-19-2023 09:51 AM

Traffic entering a roundabout must yield to both lanes of traffic. It is not ok to squeeze into the right lane if there is a car in the left lane. That would be failure to yield and you could be cited.

Yes, the left is an exit lane.
No, you cannot get in the right lane and go around and around and around.

bsloan1960 10-19-2023 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2266298)
The RBs work perfectly when drivers follow the rules.

Which is exactly why I asked if it was a Crap Shoot. You assessment is of course correct- in theory. The problems occur when real life collides with theory.

When "drivers follow the rules" you don't have tailgaters- I've never seen so many in my life as I have here. You don't have people trying to be the 2nd car through a gate as it comes back down and gets snapped off. And you don't have drivers intentionally exit the RBs by cutting in front of other drivers.

But in the real day-to-day world you do have these things and the best you can do is guard yourself against the damages these other people do... and they will KEEP doing them- no amount of instruction or pep talks are going to stop morons from being morons.

mickey100 10-19-2023 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jlaurieb (Post 2266607)
Every roundabout has a sign from either Morris or Buena Vista indicating the access route for each vehicle.

The outer lane of the roundabout is only meant as an exit lane once inside the circle it is not a left-turning lane.

The outer lane is only a straight through lane or a right turn lane. The inner lane can go straight through or turn left.

This is confusing for quite a few people, because they see a broken white line, but that line is meant for people entering from the right to cross into the traffic circle.

I am not certain whether the neighborhood roads intersecting the main roads (Morse and Buena Vista) have the same signage, but it would be helpful. It would also be helpful if people understood them.

It seems that every Villager should have a course in how to navigate roundabouts before they are handed the keys to their property.

I agree. It's like any other traffic control convention. If everyone ignored stop signs, they wouldn't work properly. If people don't drive properly in roundabouts, they don't function as they should.

The maneuver is the same as at a regular intersection. At a regular 2 lane intersection you can either go straight or turn left from the left lane. And you can go straight or turn right from the right lane. It's exactly the same for a roundabout. It would be nice if local law enforcement actually did some enforcement at roundabouts. Station a car up at Camino Real and Buena Vista and you could pull over about 20 people per hour that drive incorrectly through that roundabout. People need to be reminded that if they don't play by the rules in roundabouts they are creating a hazard and ruining it for everyone.

DebeeDoo 10-19-2023 11:49 AM

[QUOTE=bsloan1960;2266095]”We were in a double- 2 lane round about, in the right lane. As I was about to pass a right hand turn and continue on in the round about, a driver next to me in the left lane made a sudden turn in front of me to exit the round about.”

Soooooo, there’s a sign at the entrance of each roundabout - drivers should always check it (but apparently rarely do.). What you were attempting to do, essentially, was to make a left hand turn from the right lane (think about if you were on a four lane street and at a stop sign. You would not turn left from the right lane.) If you planned in advance which way you planned to go, then checked the signs, you would have been in the correct lane (left) and the near-accident would have been avoided. As others have noted, though, it’s really best not to be close to another vehicle in the roundabouts since it seems that most drivers don’t know how they work, and pay no attention to the signs, so you always have to expect someone will turn in front of you

Marathon Man 10-19-2023 11:50 AM

For those of you who think that you should change lanes while in the roundabout, please indicate where that is shown in this information.

https://www.districtgov.org/communit...t-02-08-12.pdf

flsteve 10-19-2023 12:21 PM

fenders?
 
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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2266197)
Yes, it's true. This ground has been covered many times, but every time it comes up it becomes clear that too many people misunderstand the rules, so it's worth the time and trouble to try to educate folks in this regard.

The fender you save may be your own.

I DO like my fenders, but I also like my gibsons. :jester:

TeresaE 10-19-2023 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bsloan1960 (Post 2266095)
We were in a double- 2 lane round about, in the right lane. As I was about to pass a right hand turn and continue on in the round about, a driver next to me in the left lane made a sudden turn in front of me to exit the round about. I had to slam on the brake to avoid getting hit.



This started me thinking- If you are in the left lane of the round about you always run the risk that someone in the right lane will be in your way when it's time for your exit. Just because you have been passing right turns without taking them- someone just entering on the right could be in your way when you take the 3rd exit.

What am I missing? is there a way for someone in the right lane to avoid getting hit by a driver turning in from the left- or is it 100% trusting every driver in the left to not hit you? Seems like a crap shoot.

Thanks

Think of it this way. If you were at a typical intersection on a four lane road. Would you expect the car on your left to turn right in front of you? No

When the car in the left lane turned in front of you to exit when in a roundabout, it turned Right from the left lane in front of you.

Too many people here just don’t know how to drive.


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