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Joaniesmom 12-05-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 589921)
I found the easiest way is to imagine a 4-way stop instead of a round circle. Each side has two lanes. If you were to make a right turn or to go straight you would of used the right lane at a 4-way stop. If you are making a left turn you would of been in the left turn. Same rules apply to a roundabout. So when you go to the third exit in the outside (right lane), you've made an illegal left turn and have put yourself in jeopardy of being T-boned by a car on the inside lane going straight. That's the one difference, the option of going straight can be made from either lane. However, if you apply all the 4-way stop rules you shouldn't have a problem.

That's what I thought, too.

The outside lane = straight or right turn and the inside lane = straight or left turn sounds easy. But it doesn't take into consideration someone doing exactly the same thing from your 3 o'clock position, assuming that you entered at 6 o'clock.

dillywho 12-05-2012 04:11 PM

Speed
 
The diagram is correct...thanks for that post. That being said, the speed for the roundabouts is 20 mph, not the 35-50 some are going before getting there. Please, please, please slow down or simply leave earlier.:eek:

downeaster 12-05-2012 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Joaniesmom (Post 590002)
That's what I thought, too.

The outside lane = straight or right turn and the inside lane = straight or left turn sounds easy. But it doesn't take into consideration someone doing exactly the same thing from your 3 o'clock position, assuming that you entered at 6 o'clock.

If the one entering from three o'clock is going to exit at twelve o'clock he stays in the right lane. If he is planning to exit at nine o'clock he should not enter if it will conflict with someone in the either lane (he has no way of knowing where the one in the left lane is going to exit).

The same rules apply regardless of where you enter.

Mikeod 12-05-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDave (Post 589945)
Not to beat this dead horse more than necessary, Mike. But it is clear the signs don't make sense to many, many people. I was there for a month, I studied the signs, and I've read what all these folks have said. They are very confusing.

I would be interested in what you would suggest to make the signs more clear. To me, they show two lanes entering the roundabout and show what each lane can do. So, you have to be in the correct lane as you enter in order to go where you desire coming out of the roundabout.

Besides being in the correct lane, the other critical factor in navigating the roundabouts is to NEVER enter if there is traffic in either lane approaching you. Just because the outside lane is clear doesn't make it OK to enter into that lane.

buzzy 12-05-2012 10:49 PM

Today I saw a lady start to exit at the wrong street. So she stopped and backed into the roundabout, then went to the next exit. Glad I wasn't behind her. Some people have no idea that there are other people on Earth with them.

Joaniesmom 12-06-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by downeaster (Post 590063)
If the one entering from three o'clock is going to exit at twelve o'clock he stays in the right lane. If he is planning to exit at nine o'clock he should not enter if it will conflict with someone in the either lane (he has no way of knowing where the one in the left lane is going to exit).

The same rules apply regardless of where you enter.

Exactly. :agree: I don't think that part of the equation is mentioned enough.

JoeC1947 12-06-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by downeaster (Post 590063)
If the one entering from three o'clock is going to exit at twelve o'clock he stays in the right lane. If he is planning to exit at nine o'clock he should not enter if it will conflict with someone in the either lane (he has no way of knowing where the one in the left lane is going to exit).

The same rules apply regardless of where you enter.

So if the first car enters at 3:00 and exits at 12:00 that means it was going in circles for 9 hours.

tzangrilli 12-06-2012 12:10 PM

Roundabout signs
 
Every roundabout has a green sign just before you enter. Right lane to turn right or go straight, left lane to turn left or go straight. 20 Mph speed limit sign also, well before entering. Pretty simple.

pqrstar 12-06-2012 12:31 PM

The key is for the entering car to "yield to BOTH traffic lanes" inside the traffic circle.

All yield signs should have a sign below that that states "YIELD TO BOTH LANES"

that should clarify it.

downeaster 12-06-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeC1947 (Post 590344)
So if the first car enters at 3:00 and exits at 12:00 that means it was going in circles for 9 hours.

Can't answer that question as I got dizzy going in circles and lost track of time.

goodgrief 12-06-2012 03:40 PM

To the OP. According to those clearly placed signs you did right as long as the driver entered at the same point you did (bottom) of circle. Both lanes can exit at top. or vise versa. Right lane cannot go 3/4 around in this situation. Sorry thats what is clearly posted! Sorry I just watched one this morning go straight through the circle..entered in the right lane, changed lanes and changed lanes so he didn't have to navigate in a single lane. This will get you killed or a severally damaged vehicle if the situation was right. He did this at several circles....you know who you are if you're reading this. Or...maybe there is more than one if a bunch of you are going "hey thats me". I did force him into a single lane at one point :) Made my day cause I caught up with him and rode through in the left lane right next to him keeping him in his lane :) Teach by showing HAH.

Anyway back to the original post. Folks....I drive the circle correctly and will navigate in the left lane from top to bottom or as a lot say "straight through". If you cut in front me or cause an accident please be aware...you will be held at fault. Everyone who is behind a wheel of a vehicle needs to learn the laws, if you don't know, don't understand, stop by the sheriff's annex and they'll instruct you, give you a pretty little flyer. Its the drivers responsibility to know what they're doing behind the wheel.

And yes the idiot factor has gone up tenfold in the last month.

daca55 12-06-2012 04:15 PM

This roundabout issue will always be a problem and they will always be
unsafe do to the many drivers from different places who never saw a roundabout till they came to TV and also to some point the age of the drivers. I believe the end to this issue is to make the rounderabouts for one lane of traffic and not two. During the busy months we all may have to wait a little but I believe the traffic through the roundabouts will flow better and safer. I'm just saying........

downeaster 12-06-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by goodgrief (Post 590453)
To the OP. According to those clearly placed signs you did right as long as the driver entered at the same point you did (bottom) of circle. Both lanes can exit at top. or vise versa. Right lane cannot go 3/4 around in this situation. Sorry thats what is clearly posted! Sorry I just watched one this morning go straight through the circle..entered in the right lane, changed lanes and changed lanes so he didn't have to navigate in a single lane. This will get you killed or a severally damaged vehicle if the situation was right. He did this at several circles....you know who you are if you're reading this. Or...maybe there is more than one if a bunch of you are going "hey thats me". I did force him into a single lane at one point :) Made my day cause I caught up with him and rode through in the left lane right next to him keeping him in his lane :) Teach by showing HAH.

Anyway back to the original post. Folks....I drive the circle correctly and will navigate in the left lane from top to bottom or as a lot say "straight through". If you cut in front me or cause an accident please be aware...you will be held at fault. Everyone who is behind a wheel of a vehicle needs to learn the laws, if you don't know, don't understand, stop by the sheriff's annex and they'll instruct you, give you a pretty little flyer. Its the drivers responsibility to know what they're doing behind the wheel.

And yes the idiot factor has gone up tenfold in the last month.

Maybe we should recognize the fact a lot of newer people have never seen a roundabout. They haven't had time to visit the Sheriff's office and have no idea there is a brochure and they have not discovered TOTV. Maybe we can cut them a little slack and stay in the right lane if we are exiting at 180 degrees. Causing an accident that is avoidable makes no sense to me even if I am not at fault (technically).

Bogie Shooter 12-06-2012 05:53 PM

57 opinions and counting...........................

JoeC1947 12-06-2012 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 590537)
57 opinions and counting...........................

Wait a minute! You can't count what I said as an opinion.....


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