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NotFromAroundHere 12-01-2014 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 974796)
Your last sentence contradicts your first sentence. If you are in the inside lane in order to go 3/4 the way around, there's no way you can exit without crossing over the outside lane. Therefore, you have to change lanes while in the roundabout.

No contradiction. You cross over the outside lane, you don't change lanes.

l2ridehd 12-01-2014 09:06 AM

The round-abouts in The Villages are engineered correctly and the lanes are marked correctly. They improve traffic flow dramatically over traffic lights.

A round-about is nothing more than a traffic light replacement. Think of it as the light at Morse and 466 with no turn lanes, just the main lanes.

You would ALWAYS yield if someone was in the intersection. And you always yield when someone is already in the circle.

If you wanted to turn left, you would always be in the left lane.
If you wanted to right you would always be in the right lane.
If you wanted to go straight across, you could do so from either lane.

It's OK for two cars to enter the circle side by side as long as there is no one already in the circle. Even where they force you to move right if you are going 3/4 the way around. Because the car beside you on your right should NEVER be going 3/4 the way around.

And so far I have never seen a dotted white line painted wrong in any circle. If you think about the rules and understand them, the dotted lines are painted correctly.

I just wish I could ask some of the fools that go 3/4 they way around in the outside lane, if they would go to a traffic light in the right lane to make a left hand turn. Everyone would say "of course not, that would be stupid"

Look at the green signs just before entering a circle and follow that logic.

CFrance 12-01-2014 09:07 AM

Crossing over the outside lane is the same thing as changing lanes, in my opinion. You are still having to watch for someone in another lane because you are entering that lane to exit the roundabout. So "not changing lanes in the roundabout" is impossible if you're going 3/4 around.

CFrance 12-01-2014 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 974813)
The round-abouts in The Villages are engineered correctly and the lanes are marked correctly. They improve traffic flow dramatically over traffic lights.

A round-about is nothing more than a traffic light replacement. Think of it as the light at Morse and 466 with no turn lanes, just the main lanes.

You would ALWAYS yield if someone was in the intersection. And you always yield when someone is already in the circle.

If you wanted to turn left, you would always be in the left lane.
If you wanted to right you would always be in the right lane.
If you wanted to go straight across, you could do so from either lane.

It's OK for two cars to enter the circle side by side as long as there is no one already in the circle. Even where they force you to move right if you are going 3/4 the way around. Because the car beside you on your right should NEVER be going 3/4 the way around.

And so far I have never seen a dotted white line painted wrong in any circle. If you think about the rules and understand them, the dotted lines are painted correctly.

I just wish I could ask some of the fools that go 3/4 they way around in the outside lane, if they would go to a traffic light in the right lane to make a left hand turn. Everyone would say "of course not, that would be stupid"

Look at the green signs just before entering a circle and follow that logic.

Only in a perfect circle! Because see your last paragraph. There are always fools.

njbchbum 12-01-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 974757)
I don't see any mention whatsoever of anyone whining and complaining about traffic lights.
In addition, most accidents at traffic lights have nothing to do with the circles,
so why throw a monkey wrench into the thread?

Perhaps if you re-read my post, you will understand. If not, please PM me for an additional explanation should you need it.

graciegirl 12-01-2014 01:19 PM

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biker1 12-01-2014 02:18 PM

The only issue I have with the roundabouts is when I am cycling. Several of the Villages have a large monument sign that partially blocks the view of cars about to enter the roundabout. On more than one occasion, I have been in the roundabout (right most lane) and someone comes zipping out of a Village and doesn't see me because of the monument sign blocked there view of me at just the right moment (and they were also driving to fast). The monument signs should be relocated so they don't block the view of cyclists/cars in the roundabout.

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Originally Posted by Love2cruise (Post 974438)
Since I almost got creamed last night by a car in the wrong lane in a roundabout at LSL I thought it might be a good time for new people to review driving rules in the roundabouts .

http://www.districtgov.org/community...t-02-08-12.pdf


Bogie Shooter 12-01-2014 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeV (Post 974719)
I've posted it before. Just read the signs.

This is the only advice that makes any sense!
I didn't realize these signs where so hard to understand.

Bogie Shooter 12-01-2014 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 974796)
Your last sentence contradicts your first sentence. If you are in the inside lane in order to go 3/4 the way around, there's no way you can exit without crossing over the outside lane. Therefore, you have to change lanes while in the roundabout.

Say what?

JoMar 12-01-2014 03:21 PM

Wow....didn't realize the roundabouts were so complicated. I must be doing something wrong since I find them easy to navigate......there are only two lanes and even I can remember the rules for two lanes. On a serious note, there is a town in WI, Oshkosh, that gets up to 500,000 visitors in one week in the summer. They had traffic lights. As the town expanded they removed a bunch of the lights and installed roundabouts. Traffic moves where gridlock had existed. Not having traffic move reasonably quickly is not an option for me.

jblum315 12-01-2014 03:27 PM

My son was driving us through Edinburgh (Scotland) First day driving on the left and first roundabout: He noticed a woman with a baby carriage in the street on the far side of the roundabout and quickly yelled out the window "Watch out, I'm American!" He navigated the roundabout OK but the woman scurried away

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