Amen to that, Brother!

UGH! No thanks! 11 traffic lights between 466 and 466A? Nope.

The Developers get an A+ from me for putting in roundabouts.

I assume you are talking about RAB’s? So why is it there are hundreds of them being constructed all over the country? Do a little research and you will find your statement is wrong!

Thank you so much for the visual! That makes it very clear. As such, if you’re turning left you stay in the left lane, but since you’re really turning right into your village, you put on your right signal as you exit the roundabout so that ongoing traffic continues to yield. Is that what you do?

I have read every comment so far about this and I believe this one is just not understanding the concept here. Obviously when they say making a left they mean your main objective as you leave. Look at it like an intersection....you enter at 6 o'clock and exit at 9, but to do this you go around 3/4 of the circle....if it were a normal intersection you'd be turning left...hope that helps.

Word is, they're going to repurpose some of those 87,000 IRS agents to do Roundabout Reconnaissance.

Inside lanes have the legal right of way, over the outside lane, when turning right! That is the law. It boggled my mind when I learned that. But, I have lived here 23 years and have been well served with the simple defensive driving philosophy that assumes the driver in inside lane may turn in front of me at any time to exit. Act accordingly and you will be fine.

I posted on this yesterday. Wonder why it didn't get recorded?

The law is VERY helpful in civil suits for damages.

Redundant post?

23 years, and you still don't understand how roundabouts work!

In describing how to navigate a circle I think we should drop the terms "left" and "right" lanes and call them "inner" and "outer" or "inside" and "outside" lanes. Then it would be less confusing visualizing how one turns "right from the left lane." It might even save hundreds of posts on the subject.

But I think the most important thing for people new to roundabouts is to figure out where they are going well in advance of approaching the circle and whether they need to be in the inner lane. By the time you pass the green sign with the diagram at the roundabout entrance, depending on traffic it may be too late to change lanes safely.

And replacing roundabouts with stop signs or traffic lights is a bad idea. If roundabouts are correctly used, traffic flows easily and accidents tend to be less serious, due to slower speeds. Accidents at intersections with traffic lights, at least at major crossroads with higher speeds, often have major consequences.

Its good to share the law "online" but 1. not all look here or there. 2. so many people here short time dont take the time to know/understand the law/rules. 3. How is it really enforced here in TVLG?

My $0.02

Bravo. Thanks

You are very welcome. Glad I could help.

Think negotiating RAB's here is unnerving? How about this one: https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrE...lc2I0cFc6SWEo-

On top of that, vehicles entering that particular roundabout have the right-of-way. So everyone in the roundabout has to stop and let them in.

Great idea---I wish I had thought of that. Oh, wait a minute, I did, 2 days ago. Here is the exact quote from post #28 on the other RB thread:

"They are NOT turning "right". If they are proceeding 180 or 270 degrees, they can be in the left (inner) lane---for 270 they MUST be in the inner lane. Exiting in accordance with the signage is NOT turning right from the "left" lane. Perhaps it would help some people understand if we exclusively used "inner and outer" rather than "left and right" within a RB. "

He knows what they mean when they say "turn left".

He's just being pedantic...

Except for the carnage of two lanes merging into one at every roundabout...

They are becoming more popular in the US. They help move more traffic...

I'm waiting for them to install one of these...

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod...1529072896.gif

Only on Wednesdays.

Great notice shows it clearly

You are mistaken if you think RBs don’t work in busy areas. Study after study have proven that they work best in the US and world wide. People just need to learn to use them. TV offers golf cart classes and in those classes RB usage is also taught. TV needs more RB classes, and all Villages should take one. As I’ve found a person knowing the correct usage can then ask thoughtful questions to help clarify misunderstood answers in class.

Yes, if you miss your exit or if it's blocked (eg pedestrian) you have the right-of-way to shift to the INNER lane safely and continue around...

Funny thing, in some countries you fly INTO a roundabout and only yield on the way OUT.....

When you discuss roundabouts, there is no place for "left" turns. They are not 4 way intersections.

Most *ARE* four-way intersections with an obstruction in the middle that you need to drive around. Fortunately, all the lanes have been shoved outward to avoid the obstruction resulting in what looks like a circle from above.

Street markings
 

In the roundabout at Morse and El Camino, the on street marking arrows for the inside lane point left and straight only, they do not point to an exit right turn from the inside lane, even though their are broken white lines and a traffic lane to do so.?? This could be a valid point of contention if there is a collision from someone turning out of the RB from the inside lane. The lane shows exit acces but the arrows on the road do not.

The law is only irrelevant until you’re involved in an accident that you caused because you didn’t follow the law (or the rules you considered wrong).

I wouldn’t try to challenge this. The laws are actually very simple and clear. Get the Sumter County booklet on driving in a roundabout. All of this is based on USDoT data and recommendations.

The arrows in that roundabout, and in all the roundabouts I looked at, indicate the inside lane can proceed straight or turn left which is consistent with the green signs at the entrance to the roundabout. The broken lines don't allow the inside lane to turn right, they allow traffic already in the inside lane to travel straight out of the roundabout.

If traffic in the outside lane exits properly and traffic entering the circle yields properly then there will be no collision. Unfortunately, too many don't know or care what thw proper way is or they insist they know better.

A roundabout is just a junction, and the lane discipline is no different to any other two lane junction.
You make a left turn, a right turn or go straight on.
So simple.

I stood in the center island of the roundabout at the intersection of Morse Blvd and the north end of Moyer Loop. I had a pencil and clipboard and recorded the number of southbound Morse Blvd. vehicles that exited the roundabout onto Moyer Loop from the left (correct) lane in the roundabout and from the right (incorrect) lane. Amazingly out of 100 vehicles 50 did it right and 50 did it wrong despite the fact that there's a green sign visible to drivers coming southbound on Morse toward the roundabout with a diagram showing which lanes to use. This was a couple of years ago, so maybe by now more people have figured it out. I admit I was was doing it wrong when moved here.

Possible solution - mount 24/7 surveillance cameras in the roundabouts with the highest number of accidents. Issue picture summons for rule violators similar to citations for running a red light. Then the argumenters against the rules of RAB can have their day in court. Tell your rationals to the judge not me. In the interim for my safety follow the signs posted at your entrance to the RAB.

What a shame that you feel this way. Does aging limitations include no longer able to learn?

Yes, endless posts. As I read them, I am back where I was. Assuming that people going on the roundabouts know the law, is a reach. Betting your life, that they know the law AND WILL FOLLOW IT that is a far reach.