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TheVillageChicken 09-19-2013 04:07 AM

Golf Cart HOG....hmmmmn. Probably just a friendly welcome to a newcomer from the Golf Cart Harley Owners Group.

Golfingnut 09-19-2013 04:28 AM

I Would beware of any self appointed vigilante. A normal person would have paid no attention or at the most left a note saying PLEASE HELP US GET MORE PARKIN BY SHARING PARKING SPOTS WITH ONE MORE CART. THANK YOU.
Saying CART HOG is assuming and aggressive.

What is Vigilante Justice?

Taltarzac725 09-19-2013 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arubagirl2000 (Post 748456)
To the rude person who put a card that said "Golf Cart Hog", in the cart of a couple who are visiting The Villages for the first time through the Lifestyle Preview Plan - they were very upset as this was their first time in the village cart and tired to park like they thought was right. Made them wonder if this really was "The Friendliest Hometown"

It would have been much nicer if someone would have just explained to them what they did, instead of putting a sarcastic card in their cart.

Sorry to hear about this. There are always some jerks in any group of people no matter how friendly the rest may be.

CFrance 09-19-2013 06:30 AM

Besides, it's not Golf Cart Hog; it's Parking Space Hog. They can't even get their rude right.:ohdear:

Golfingnut 09-19-2013 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 748685)
Besides, it's not Golf Cart Hog; it's Parking Space Hog. They can't even get their rude right.:ohdear:

LOL. Good point for sure.

graciegirl 09-19-2013 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cfrance (Post 748685)
besides, it's not golf cart hog; it's parking space hog. They can't even get their rude right.:ohdear:


well said!

Bonny 09-19-2013 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 748482)
Speaking of parking your car....has anyone else noticed this: Several times while positioning the car to parallel park (which I can do fairly fast), as I got directly beside the car ahead of the space to start backing up, golf cart drivers came up behind me and sat at my rear bumper leaving NO room to back up to parallel park! They were rude and motioning like I should get going forward and not park. Is this common in some other states, to block cars while parallel parking? I've never seen this before coming here. (Maybe they lived in NYC and never had a car of their own to park before?)

We have had people try to back up to parallel park, however, they didn't have a turn signal on and we had 4 cars behind us and no one could back up. People need to put their blinker on so the car behind them knows they are going into that spot.

kittygilchrist 09-19-2013 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Indydealmaker (Post 748609)
My opinion is that the streets are county roads and the parking spaces are sized for cars. They do not say golf carts only and they do not dictate a protocol for parking golf carts.

There is a generally accepted practice of parking two carts to a spot by offsetting the vehicles, but it is not a rule and no one has any right to **** and moan about how many carts are parked in one spot.

It is a common courtesy to optimize the space, but not doing so does not indicate in any way that the driver of the "offending" cart is being inconsiderate.

thanks for that Indy. I plan to be a repeat offender hogging up a whole parking space. My cart has doors that require about 18" to swing open, so a cart or car jammed next to it would obstruct being able to get in and out.

casita37 09-19-2013 08:42 AM

It's amazing how people forget what it's like to be "new", or a visitor who hasn't caught onto the usual and customary practices. They will pick up on it soon enough, or some nicer person will point out how it would be helpful to others to share the space (We're all assuming that was the problem.) Also....sometimes there is a reason for taking a whole space. We have a lot of residents who use canes and walkers, etc. and perhaps need a little extra room. My husband is in a foot boot right now, and it helps him to not be crowded. LOTS of reasons people do what they do and it's nobody's business, unless it is against the law.

Anyone who would leave such a note probably needs anger management classes. Having said.....I see plenty of angry people here in "FL's friendliest hometown".

bfdretired 09-19-2013 09:09 AM

good info
 
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Originally Posted by raynan (Post 748524)
Each parking space holds 2 golf carts OR 1 car. If you travel in a group you can park 4 golf carts to a space 2 in front and 2 behind because you are all coming and going together. But DON'T block a strangers car in.

Are there signs indicating 2 carts or 1 car?.........how would a newbee....who never drove a cart or lived in a community like TV.....know the rules?

is there anyplace golf cart tips can be found.....like roundabouts?...parking....safe places to stop and check map....golf cart path sineage??.......nite driving....golf cart help for breakdowns...towing etc....golf cart courtesy??.....pull to right for speedy drivers??............

thanks

graciegirl 09-19-2013 09:29 AM

We can't change ourselves completely and we can't change what we have been taught, our word usage and what we think is our business. We are going to face again soon a large surge of population where there will be people handling things much differently than the way we grew up.

There will be people standing in the middle of the aisle at grocery stores with no thought to the fact they are blocking.

There will be people in droves going to the squares and saving chairs.
There will be people with much less driving experience than most of us driving cars and golf carts. There will be people stepping in front of us in line and even saying that they always sit in the front pew in church!

The quiet ones will simmer and the vocal ones will vocalize and the place here will get a lot more interesting and a good deal more frustrating.

Hang on Snoopy.

ilovetv 09-19-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 748724)
We have had people try to back up to parallel park, however, they didn't have a turn signal on and we had 4 cars behind us and no one could back up. People need to put their blinker on so the car behind them knows they are going into that spot.

I already said emphatically that I HAD my turn signal on and the reverse lights were on too, as ALWAYS.

Even without the signal on, drivers of any vehicle on the streets should know that a car stopped just ahead of an empty parking spot is going to back into it to park. Then a thinking person would stay back and give them room!!

Barefoot 09-19-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bfdretired (Post 748773)
Are there signs indicating 2 carts or 1 car? How would a newbee....who never drove a cart or lived in a community like TV.....know the rules?

The best way is just to watch what other people do! Where they drive, how they park, where the tunnels are, etc. I suggest you start out slowly and take "practice runs" when you're not in a hurry and have plenty of time to observe others. That way when you get lost, it doesn't matter.

And soon you'll be helping other drivers that are lost. That's when you'll know you're a True Villager!

Arubagirl2000 09-19-2013 10:11 AM

The card said Golf Cart Hog at the top, then under that was a pic of a hog sitting in a golf cart.
Written under that pic "Every Automobile Space Fits TWO (2) Golf Carts"

villages07 09-19-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arubagirl2000 (Post 748808)
The card said Golf Cart Hog at the top, then under that was a pic of a hog sitting in a golf cart.
Written under that pic "Every Automobile Space Fits TWO (2) Golf Carts"

That was unnecessarily nasty. There are much more civil ways to get a point across, or, better yet, not to have done it at all. It's hardly an epidemic problem here.

I hope these folks will be able to laugh it off as the very rare Villages grump and it didn't taint their visit too much.

ivanhoe 09-19-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 748613)
Well Holy crap, again! I know people in NYC who have never owned a car, much less parallel parked one.

eh...were they LICENSED DRIVERS? If so they must understand parallel parking living in such a congested area. (They might rent one.)

If not, they are not subject to this discussion.

It has nothing to do with owning or not owning a car.

ilovetv 09-19-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ivanhoe (Post 748840)
eh...were they LICENSED DRIVERS? If so they must understand parallel parking living in such a congested area. (They might rent one.)

If not, they are not subject to this discussion.

It has nothing to do with owning or not owning a car.

This discussion/thread has everything to do with driving a golf cart, which people can do without having a driver's license. I mentioned the above because it is likely there are people here driving golf carts who have never had a driver's license.

And then there is the unique use of parking spaces here in TV for both cars and golf carts. I admit I should have left parallel parking out of it. The point is, golf cart drivers are not always licensed car drivers.

Vinny 09-19-2013 11:26 AM

Darn, now I have to order new cards. :) I agree with the other posters that an explanation of the rules gives out the same message and also provides an explanation of the rules, in a more gentler manner.

Barefoot 09-19-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Arubagirl2000 (Post 748456)
To the rude person who put a card that said "Golf Cart Hog", in the cart of a couple who are visiting The Villages for the first time through the Lifestyle Preview Plan - they were very upset as this was their first time in the village cart and tired to park like they thought was right.

The fact that someone is walking around with pre-printed cards saying "Golf Cart Hog", just looking for aggravation, speaks volumes about the kind of person he is. I just wish we all had the ability to ignore those people who are capable of such pettiness and get on with the joy and happiness of life.

Madelaine Amee 09-19-2013 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 748871)
The fact that someone is walking around with pre-printed cards saying "Golf Cart Hog", just looking for aggravation, speaks volumes about the kind of person he is.

:agree: .......... to go to all the trouble of finding this particular calling card (probably on the net), having them printed and sent to him ............ nope, no hope for this bully. Sometimes you just have to say "breeding will out" and leave it at that!

... and for those that have never heard that term before "This phrase means that breeding will come out, become apparent, over time. That is, it cannot be hidden forever, even if a person tries to hide it. A person who has been taught good ethics, morals, manners, etc., will demonstrate that training subconsciously, and other people will notice it." This person has obviously never been taught how to behave in a civilized manner showing respect to others.

graciegirl 09-19-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easyrider (Post 748637)
Says who? Quote me the law that says this is correct. One cart is no different than one motorcycle to a spot. It's a real pain in the behind trying to get a cart so close to the lines and then have car drivers upset you're too close to their cars and then you can't get out with your cart. I park one cart to a space and until the laws state otherwise I have no intention of doing differently unless the spaces are marked for carts. I do park 2 to a spot if I am with another person on a cart where we can get closer together. I didn't move here to be told what to do according to what someone else thinks unless there is a law on the books to back them up.. A coward that wants to leave a note on my cart which is my private property had better have a really good reason why or hope I do not see them and I usually do keep an eye on my cart if possible.

Best Advice: Park where you want and can and leave other people's parked carts alone and don't be telling anyone how that must park. NO ONE has the right to tell anyone how they must park or has the right to put a note on it because they think they parked wrong. They do have one and only one option to call law enforcement if they feel it is illegally parked.

If you want to park 2 carts to a spot that's fine, do it, be happy in your own head you did, and leave it at that.



No one has a right to tell anyone how to park but we all should care that there aren't that many parking spaces and we really should share. We don't live here alone.

Easy now.

donb9006 09-19-2013 01:30 PM

Just be thankful this is the worst thing you have to be upset or worry about...it's a whole different world outside the bubble.

rubicon 09-19-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 748572)
Don't yell at me. I didn't write this.


Top 20 States with the Worst Drivers

GG: did you notice MN was not on that list Ya know why? Because people in MN are so nice. They are so nice that there are no four way stops because drivers would all be yielding to one another. No, you go first please...No please you go first Minnesota Nice:D

You know what else? The person who left the rude comments on the golf cart bet it was a cop because he was unable to issue a ticket:D

Suzi 09-19-2013 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 748899)
No one has a right to tell anyone how to park but we all should care that there aren't that many parking spaces and we really should share. We don't live here alone.

Easy now.

Here is my take on it: There are usually all kinds of spaces farther away. By the looks of us Americans, it wouldn't hurt most of us to park in those spaces and leave the closer spaces to those who have less agility. I had visited several times before I heard about accepted cart parking norms here in the villages. Imagine how many people I inadvertently ****** off.

Mickedamouse24 09-19-2013 03:28 PM

Unreal .... ! Some of you folks need to lighten up! You're gonna bust a gut..... Common sense does not need to be a law!!!

twinklesweep 09-19-2013 04:16 PM

It does take all kinds....
 
This was witnessed by a friend who afterward told me the story:

A man was driving out of the Walgreen’s parking lot when another car parked in nose first started backing out. Evidently he didn’t see the first car that was leaving and consequently plowed the rear of his car into the side of the other.

The woman in the passenger seat of the car that had backed into the other car jumped out of the car and started screaming at the driver of the other car, who had been leaving the parking lot, to the effect of what right did he have to be there just at the moment that her husband was backing out.

The driver of the car that was hit, listening to this woman and seeming to accept that she was a completely unreasonable “loose cannon,” said nothing to her but instead pulled out his mobile phone and called 911 for a deputy sheriff. The woman’s husband said nothing.

When the deputy sheriff arrived, the woman was still screaming. The sheriff then turned to my friend and the other man standing there and asked if they had been witnesses to the incident. Both said yes, both agreed to the account of the other driver who had been innocently leaving Walgreen’s when the side of his car was plowed into, and both said they would be willing to serve as witnesses. The second man then added that he was the retired chief of police of a small city in Illinois. At this point the sheriff thanked my friend and told him that he wouldn’t be needed, so he left; hence, that’s all I know of the story.

It does indeed take all kinds….

beachx4me 09-19-2013 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 748876)
:agree: .......... to go to all the trouble of finding this particular calling card (probably on the net), having them printed and sent to him ............ nope, no hope for this bully. Sometimes you just have to say "breeding will out" and leave it at that!

... and for those that have never heard that term before "This phrase means that breeding will come out, become apparent, over time. That is, it cannot be hidden forever, even if a person tries to hide it. A person who has been taught good ethics, morals, manners, etc., will demonstrate that training subconsciously, and other people will notice it." This person has obviously never been taught how to behave in a civilized manner showing respect to others.

Very well said! This must be a miserable individual with little else to do but try to make others miserable as well. Very sad.

kittygilchrist 09-19-2013 10:10 PM

Funny video. No animals were hurt.
 
http://youtu.be/TGHMoz2m41A

Lighten up gang...it was a nasty note by a nasty person, rude but not worth all the lather.
Yes we should be considerate. You can no more dictate how everybody parks than you can tell them how to drive.

sharonga 09-19-2013 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 748482)
speaking of parking your car....has anyone else noticed this: Several times while positioning the car to parallel park (which i can do fairly fast), as i got directly beside the car ahead of the space to start backing up, golf cart drivers came up behind me and sat at my rear bumper leaving no room to back up to parallel park! They were rude and motioning like i should get going forward and not park. Is this common in some other states, to block cars while parallel parking? I've never seen this before coming here. (maybe they lived in nyc and never had a car of their own to park before?)

i come from new york. I know how to parallel park. Speakikng of rude, that remark was not necessary. What is happening here???????

sharonga 09-19-2013 10:20 PM

My husband was on line at Publix. A man started ranting and raving about The Villages stealing all his money. Hey we live in an adult community with a lot of people who are on the verge of dementia. Have some compassion. Not everybody is walking around in a dream bubble.

Easyrider 09-19-2013 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 748899)
No one has a right to tell anyone how to park but we all should care that there aren't that many parking spaces and we really should share. We don't live here alone.

Easy now.

I have never been to a parking lot where there are no spaces remaining. If I did see none or very few spaces were available I would definitely try to park with another cart for that time at least for sure. Just because there is not a spot 10 feet from the door doesn't mean there are none available. People doing the 50 yard dash from the handicap spots to the business even from golf carts is a much bigger problem here. Then there are no handicapped spots left for those that really need them like those requiring walkers, canes, wheelchairs, crutches.

The Buckeyes 09-19-2013 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 748724)
We have had people try to back up to parallel park, however, they didn't have a turn signal on and we had 4 cars behind us and no one could back up. People need to put their blinker on so the car behind them knows they are going into that spot.

I have always found that if you put your 4-way hazard lights on while slowing to a stop most people will get the idea that you are going to do something different than going forward. By using this courtesy most will just go around you while you are waiting to parallel park.

The Buckeyes 09-19-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 748798)
I already said emphatically that I HAD my turn signal on and the reverse lights were on too, as ALWAYS.

Even without the signal on, drivers of any vehicle on the streets should know that a car stopped just ahead of an empty parking spot is going to back into it to park. Then a thinking person would stay back and give them room!!

Why would you assume the person behind you is a thinking person?

Easyrider 09-19-2013 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzi (Post 748972)
Here is my take on it: There are usually all kinds of spaces farther away. By the looks of us Americans, it wouldn't hurt most of us to park in those spaces and leave the closer spaces to those who have less agility. I had visited several times before I heard about accepted cart parking norms here in the villages. Imagine how many people I inadvertently ****** off.

:bigbow:


Here's the clincher:

There are usually all kinds of spaces farther away.

graciegirl 09-20-2013 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easyrider (Post 749143)
I have never been to a parking lot where there are no spaces remaining. If I did see none or very few spaces were available I would definitely try to park with another cart for that time at least for sure. Just because there is not a spot 10 feet from the door doesn't mean there are none available. People doing the 50 yard dash from the handicap spots to the business even from golf carts is a much bigger problem here. Then there are no handicapped spots left for those that really need them like those requiring walkers, canes, wheelchairs, crutches.

During the oncoming time of year, when the population increases hugely, people are sometimes blocked in by carts parking behind them. THEN that is when the frustration mounts. If we park carefully, sometimes we can get a space and share it, if we don't have opening out doors on the cart and we aren't too close to the cars parked beside us.

If we show the skills that we have learned by living longer than the rest of the population and throw in some much needed patience we will get through the parking mess soon approaching. I will do my share by staying away from the squares, but I still have to go to Publix.

cquick 09-20-2013 09:51 AM

Anyone who would actually have "golf cart hog" cards printed up to put on golf carts must be in the early stages of dementia.....or perhaps they were just born rude.

cquick 09-20-2013 09:53 AM

I couldn't get into my car at Brownwood the other day because a golf cart parked literally 6" from my drivers side door. They were across the white line into my parking space and they pulled right up.

I was quite frustrated, but I didn't have a golf cart hog card. Darn!

cquick 09-20-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 748731)
thanks for that Indy. I plan to be a repeat offender hogging up a whole parking space. My cart has doors that require about 18" to swing open, so a cart or car jammed next to it would obstruct being able to get in and out.

me too, we have to unload a wheelchair next to ours.

cquick 09-20-2013 10:02 AM

oh, look how chatty I am today, this is my 4th post in an hour. I'll take a break now on my opinions....I'll go spout off on facebook now.

Wrkdhrd 09-20-2013 10:45 AM

Although I hate when people say this, I can see both sides. Lol

I've never been to TV but I'm looking to it and a visit. I had no idea about the parking until I read this, believe me I'll be paranoid about it now and if that was my first hello I wouldn't be back. I'd be thinking friendliest my patoot. I don't think the card described is atrocious once it was fully described. Maybe it was meant as a reminder, or even a first time this is parking space, unnecessary probably yes. It's just a parking space there's more in life to get upset about, but to me anyway, not a life stopping horrendous event.

But maybe it seems small to me because I currently live in CNY and regularly see parking spaces designated for "green" cars and see them filled with huge SUVs or PIck up trucks and its not enforced. Why have them? And who parks there? To me that's incredibly rude and also breaking the law.


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