Does anyone remember in the movie "Its a wonderful life" when George Bailey yelled at his kids teacher on the phone? Then he ran into the teachers husband at a bar, the husband recognized George and punched him in the mouth. I miss those days.

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Rudest cities in USA
 

In USAToday, today. Look at the Florida cities in top 10.

Rudest city in the USA? Hint: It's not what you're probably thinking - USATODAY.com

Well put, Gracie. Bears repeating. I was raised the same as you but 752 miles away!. :smiley:

Of course, honking has changed. Now it is used to notify people the red light has changed to green when they are so engrossed in their text messaging that they don't realize why they're sitting behind the wheel a minute later (some honk a little quicker!). Not all are texting though, as some are reading, talking on the phone, changing the cd or diapers (had to get this in for Bill's benefit), picking things off the floor of the passenger seat, putting on makeup or just daydreaming. I get the biggest laugh when I'm first in line at the light, leave it promptly when it changes to green and then look in the mirror and see the person behind me 1/4 mile still hasn't noticed I've left! Life is busy!

RUDE people
 

So SAD, but SO TRUE, that so many people think that they are the ONLY people in the world. For the life of me, I can't understand such RUDE folks, and I see it everyday...what is up with you RUDE FOLKS! Gosh, at this stage of your life folks, it is really how you wish to live.

RUDE PEOPLE:mad:

GOOD PEOPLE:angel:

TAKE YOUR PICK ON WHO YOU WILL BE TODAY!
AND SEE THE WORLD OF DIFFERENCE IN YOUR LIFE

When I come into contact with what I consider a "rude person" (and we all have a different tolerance) I sometimes pick back up that little book "Don't Sweat the Small Stuff and Its All Small Stuff." Just a thought.

The way I feel about it.

You encounter rude people everyday, unfortunately! I try to ignore most of them. I'm also a Miami native, lived there most of my life. It use to be a very lovely city. We left there in the early '80's thanks to Fidel and his boatloads of criminals and lowlifes he sent over. I wouldn't move back there for a million $$! Talk about rude....I'm surprised Miami isn't at the top of the list!

I begin by saying that I am sorry to hear that you had to endure an endoscopy, Jon. I hope that the procedure uncovered the results that you were hoping for. Please continue to hang in there, Jon. I know you've had a rough go of things this year. Just know that there are many of us out here who are pulling for you and hold you in our thoughts and prayers.

FWIW: I have neither met nor spoken with Jon or his wife. I wouldn't know him if he ran me over with his paddleboard. ;) But how uplifting it would have been for Jon if we all- whether we know him or not- had taken a moment to extend the basic courtesy of offering some words of encouragement and support before expressing our opinions on the topic he raised?

On to the topic at hand…
Last summer, things on TOTV had descended to the point where we learned about trolls and cyber-bullies, we were admonished by the Administrator, and a long-standing member shut down. At the time, I thought that “we” committed to return to civility and mutual respect, and to focus our comments, whether positive or negative, on topics rather than directing criticisms or harsh comments at a poster. Things seemed to smooth over for a while. The long-time poster even returned, albeit if only with a limited less edgy presence.

A month or so ago, however, things got ugly again. That situation resulted in the self-imposed departures of another two members. (A welcome back greeting to one of them; a come-on back request to the other.)

Just this past week, a post commented about boorish behavior in TV church parking lots after services. One can read TOTV posts and see how quickly some of us become confrontational and antagonistic, demonstrating aggression- either outright or passively- towards a fellow poster instead of addressing the subject matter. We have seen where some posters, knowing that their comments and opinions will be a bit controversial, will include in their post an acknowledgement to the effect of, let the flaming begin.

Poor behavior is everywhere, inside and outside of the bubble; however, I do not understand why one would initiate rudeness and impoliteness. (I do agree with the point made elsewhere that there are people who are of a gentle nature in person but who are quite different in front of a keyboard or behind the wheel of a car, or a golf cart!) Posters in this string have identified many interesting and valid opinions and observations as potential reasons or causes for such behavior. I add another observation: Having endured decades of life’s stressors as best as they can, many folks who have reached retirement have committed to a personal life “guide” that they simply will not tolerate any person- or comment or place or circumstance- that displeases them in some way (Twisted Sister lyrics are running through my head!).

Some folks choose to ignore poor behavior, others choose to have fun with it- carguys, she shouldn’t have made an offer if she had no intention of fulfilling, such a tease she was!- while others choose a more aggressive approach. Folks who choose a more aggressive approach often not care that their level of aggression equals or exceeds in intensity whatever it is that “bothers” them, and they are usually callous about what others may think of their particular method for “rectifying” a matter.

As for me, I reiterate the pledge I made during last summer’s TOTV silliness: I choose to be as civil, polite, and mannerly as I possibly can. And when I fail, I will unconditionally apologize.

Sorry to hear that you had such a bad time. I tend to agree that this behavior is the exception and not the norm in the Villages. I have never had anyone honk at me while in my golf cart. In fact, I am surprised to see how courteous car drivers are to golf cart drivers.
One thing I would like to point out here, and this in no way excuses this woman's behavior, is that the pharmacist was somewhat to blame in this instance. He never should have told you to sit there and wait if it was going to take longer than a minute. He should have asked you to get out of line to allow the next customer to conduct their business.

The cities listed all have international vistor or are transient in nature so how can you tell?

We have lived in Orlando since 2004 and find the people friendlyand helpful.
When I changed cars I tried to update my Sunpass online but ended up calling.
Got a wonderful lady that said well honey I can do this for you.
O town city employees are friendly and the DMV was too.
Now comparing it to Michigan; well the southern charm is true.

Really? Is there a higher percentage of armed persons in Florida compared to the rest of the country? And are they really more apt to use those arms in anger?

Concealed weapons permits are fairly easy to get in Florida when compared to other states. I came from Maryland and you had to prove it was necessary for you to have a concealed weapon, such as a business owner who carried large sums of money. In Florida if you have a military DD214 form, which is your service record, and a clean criminal record you can get a permit. I just checked online and as of last June there were 843,463 licensed permit holders in Florida.

Was there any information where you checked as to how many permit holders were mentally impaired??

My husband (the scientist:)) told me that the shortest recorded measure of time is the time between when the light turns green and the guy behind you blows his horn.

LOL. I've discovered that's the second shortest recorded time though. The first shortest by far is how fast the time goes whenever I'm in TV. :cryin2:

Thanks gmcneil for the kind words. I am truly touched. I'm actually doing very well and feel better than I have in years. The meds have kept me symptom free for a couple of months, they're trying to shock it into remission with high doses of prednisone. In the mean time I'm working out 5-6 days a week, paddleboarding a couple of times per week, and have done a few dive trips in the last month. I refuse to let this condition set me back.

I think you are correct in that rudeness can be found everywhere--big cities, small towns, among the young, among the old, in parking lots, grocery stores, movie theatres, even churches. It even occurs in cyberspace as we have seen on certain TOTV threads, including this one.

I think everyone just needs to try and combat rudeness in their own way. If people feel more comfortable "turning the other cheek," it is their decision and I respect that. If others want to combat it with humor, I think that is a wonderful approach. If someone wants to stand up to these rude bullies and confront them, that is good too. I certainly respect how anyone deals with rudeness--it is entirely their decision and they have to live with it. I just wish others would respect my method for combatting rudeness the way I respect theirs.

That is my definition of the nanosecond. :wave:

If you were to pick up an application for concealed carry at the tag office and read it you'd see that individuals are screened for any history of past violence or mental illness. Fingerprints are required also for positive ID.

I wonder if there is a higher percentage of CC permits compared to the total population in Florida compared to the other states...a project for me after I retire I guess.

Wonder how many folks pack without a permit? One never knows.

OMG...that is awful. I have run into people like that as well. I think you showed great restraint in dealing with her. I don't know what the hurry is...she should have gone into the store if she was in such a hurry.

I don't understand the level of rudeness around here. We are all so lucky to be here in this community....I guess some people just fell like they are entitled. What goes around comes around.

On the other hand, there are the very kind folks. The crate I have my glass tools and supplies in flew out of my cart on a turn, right as I got into a tunnel. So there I am, right at the entrance of the tunnel where I was afraid the cart would not be seen and someone was going to hit me. I moved it up a bit and then went to unhook my walker to go get it when a gentle riding a bike stopped, got my cart, made sure I was ok and left. God bless him.,,he really saved me from what could have been a real bad time. Let's hope people like him are in the majority. I believe they are....

We've seen 100 times more kind, courteous, accommodating people here in TV than the rude woman described in the original post. I think this thread has gone too far toward generalizing that the whole community is full of rude ba*****ds.

This community as a whole is no more rude than any other place in which we've lived.

And as for the comment about one's hometown of 16,000 where there is no such rudeness and people know everyone from cradle to grave, what I'd say is this: My experience with small town life (I grew up in it) is that yes, everyone knows you and knows every last tidbit of gossip about you that could possibly be known......and it gets spread behind your back! "Rudeness" comes in many forms.

I'd rather have somebody yell their complaint about me and I then know where they stand, over having the whole town gossiping and condemning me behind my back for something I didn't even realize p*ssed somebody off.

I think phony niceness while being a backstabber is the height of "rudeness".

Here in TV, 99% of nice people I've met and dealt with are genuinely nice.

Not wanting to make this thread any longer, but I believe that I notice the rudeness here more than when I lived "up north" because people seem to be so much more polite here. When someone acts like a jerk, I think that it shocks me and stands out more in my mind. I remember when I first moved here, I was checking out in Publix and the cashier took a look at my carton of eggs and told me that she couldn't sell me the eggs. I immediately did my "up north" stare and squared my shoulders ready for the duel. She then continued to tell me that there was a cracked egg in the carton and that she would have someone go back and get me a new carton!
I just try to shrug it off and figure that the rude one is just an unhappy so and so and I will not allow it to change my day.

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Overlook the negative concentrate on the positive
 

This is not a hijack but I do have something to say regarding rude and hostile people. Senior Citizen, first off I do enjoy your notes they are honest, thoughtful and forthright. You have been blessed to raise your children in a beautiful small town in Vermont, but now as you mentioned the Winters are becoming difficult. That was my reason for moving to Florida and I've been blessed to live in South Florida as well central Florida these last few years. I've found that people are people, some good and some bad but living in TV has been like finding Utopia for me because of the people as well as the beautiful surroundings and most of all the LIGHT. The gorgeous sunlight each day during the Winter months helps me to keep a positive attitude and actually keeps me healthy. I do wish you would spend time here; we need people like you and your family; there is room for a few more Yankees here in the deep South.:wave:

I dearly love you Duffy's Mom.

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ilovetv, we've lived in small communities of less than 1000 and in cites of several million. In my experience folks are folks. Even the cities are divided into small neighborhoods. These neighborhoods might have several thousand residents but they're often just as close as the small towns. In all those places I have yet to see one where gossip travels faster than in our neighborhood in TV. That's not a negative. These same neighbors who gossip at the pool, mail station and on the golf courses are also the ones who will be there to help you when you need a hand. That's just living in a community. You can't escape that. No matter where we've lived, most people are very nice. In some areas they are more friendly than others but basically they are good, decent people. I still say that something happens in TV when people are driving or in a supermarket. There seems to be a lot of well controlled anger which comes out, in these situations especially. I notice this more in TV more than any place we've lived.

Was it because I was a woman that I was told to "shut up" when I drew a "gentleman's" !!!!
attention to the fact that he was going the wrong way in a lane at Publix Southern Trace. He will know who he is.

A person responds to a thread from TWO YEARS ago?

If the poster from today had a current issue, start a NEW thread!

Now Buggy... sometimes new people forget to look at the posting dates... chilout

To relate a very nice, courteous encounter I had. When my mom and I visited in December, we rented a Patio Villa with a Golf Cart. At the end of our visit we had to go fill the golf cart with gas. I had no idea how to do that, so we drove to the gas station and I saw a couple in another golf cart driving in to get his gas. I pulled in behind him and asked if I could watch him so I would know what to do. He not only let me watch him and explain as he did it, he pulled up and waited to show me and watch me as I filled my cart. My mom and his wife had a nice little chat while we were filling our carts. Can't believe what I nice time we had just getting gas for a golf cart.

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:BigApplause: Exactly!

Well I am certainly not new and unfortunately did not look at the date either as I look at the latest post, so I am guilty, shame on me :( We're not all perfect. Sigh.

I'm a slow learner. It took me a couple of years and some reminders from people as to the date before I got in the habit of checking back. But I still forget too.

Buggyone's suggestion is in line with the spirit of the site, however the delivery in his message is not.

We'll close this thread and the OP can start a new one if they so desire.