Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 461571)

I was very surprised, upon my last visit, that bicyclists and walkers were allowed in the diamond lane. I thought that that lane was for carts only. Not that I blame joggers for wanting to jog in that lane, it's just there's already so much going on already without adding more confusion in that lane. For what it is, a golf cart community, I think TV could have done a much better job laying things out. I would have been nice to have all cart paths off the main roads and maybe put a diamond lane for bikers and walkers along side the main roads as the cart road is now. It seems there's so much to pay attention to while driving there. I don't think I've ever driven in a place where there's so much concentration needed when driving. That seems like an accident waiting to happen in a retirement community. Safety should be the number one concern. Having said that, I still love it there!

Originally Posted by John_W (Post 461648)

This morning on St. Charles cart lane there were two woman on bicycles riding in tandem and each one had a dog tethered to the bike via a leash. The dog is running alongside the bike on the white line only a couple of feet from passing cars. I've seen three different woman doing this on St. Charles over the past six months, but today was the first time seeing two together.

It's only a matter of time before one of these dogs will be hit by a car and killed, which is going to be terrible for the driver and the innocent dog that has the ignorant owner. Yes, it's great to keep your dog healthy but alive is much better. I think next time I see this I'm going to say something, but usually I'm in too much shock, it's really quite a sight.

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 461598)

For pedestrians using diamond travel lanes whether you are walking/running with or against the flow of traffic you are causing me to cross over the solid white line and into the flow of automobile traffic when in fact just a few feet away is a sidewalk or if you prefer grass to run on. Golf carts are legally required to stay within that white solid line.

Originally Posted by Skybo (Post 461381)

I understand why runners and walkers prefer to run/walk on the asphalt as opposed to the concrete sidewalks. And I also understand why they run/walk in the opposite direction of traffic, as we were all taught as children. But IMO, here in TV, runners and walkers should not be using the diamond lanes in general, but if they do, they shouldn’t go against traffic, and if they do go against traffic...they should be the ones to yield to vehicular traffic.

Today I almost ran over a woman who ran in front of me at an intersection. I was at a Stop sign, waiting to turn right. Traffic was heavy and I (looking to the left) was waiting for my chance to turn right. When I finally saw a break in the traffic I started my turn, and there was a woman, running through the intersection from my right (in the diamond lane), just a couple of feet in front of me.

I hit the brake and she glared at me and threw her arms up...like “what the hell are you doing?” It scared me to death. I hope it scared her even more.

So folks who run in the diamond lane...how about making eye contact with vehicle drivers and making sure that they see you before crossing in front of them. That's how runners do it everywhere else...and it's probably even more important here in TV. Just saying.

Originally Posted by 784caroline (Post 462124)

Believe it or not this JUST happened to me. Driving in a diamond lane and a bike rider is riding against traffic in the diamond lane BUT there just happens to be cars in the normal lanes. SO everybody is comming right at her and she has a problem. She gets off the bike, goes to the curb for she has no other place to go, allowing the golf carts and car to pass safety. I would hope her own actions will tell her she was not doing the right thing.

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 461702)

best comment paulandjean!!!
And most people do, but there will always be a few no matter what or where.

And for those who have to go over 20, if not here maybe in another thread....why? Think about it going 25-28 mph puts you a few minutes ahead at the end of AN HOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!! So what could be so needed to risk going faster than everybody else to save a minute or two???

btk