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Bill14564 02-25-2022 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rockyhyder (Post 2065803)
We already have a lot of information based on the current reservation systems (tee times, court reservations, club membership,etc). Additional information could be gathered by recreation staff as they visit each rec center during normal duties and record the number of people using the amenity. Over time the data collected will show a median or average to establish a baseline.

But you didn't ask for the number of people using the amenities, you asked for a breakdown of amenity usage by property. To do that you would need to know which property a user belonged to. Maybe you can get that from the tee-time system but not sure about the others and certainly not from the pools.

Perhaps it would be useful if you described the type of decision you would make using the data you want to collect. Are you trying to make an argument to discontinue a certain amenity because too few people are using it? Are you trying to show a particular amenity should get more/less funding due to the number of people using it? What question are you trying to answer?

I assume the Amenity Committees have a pretty good handle on whether an amenity is used and a very good idea of what it costs to maintain each type of amenity. Suggest you attend some meetings, particularly budget planning meetings, and actually see how the sausage is made.

rockyhyder 02-25-2022 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2065810)
But you didn't ask for the number of people using the amenities, you asked for a breakdown of amenity usage by property. To do that you would need to know which property a user belonged to. Maybe you can get that from the tee-time system but not sure about the others and certainly not from the pools.

Perhaps it would be useful if you described the type of decision you would make using the data you want to collect. Are you trying to make an argument to discontinue a certain amenity because too few people are using it? Are you trying to show a particular amenity should get more/less funding due to the number of people using it? What question are you trying to answer?

I assume the Amenity Committees have a pretty good handle on whether an amenity is used and a very good idea of what it costs to maintain each type of amenity. Suggest you attend some meetings, particularly budget planning meetings, and actually see how the sausage is made.

Bill YOU assume a lot! I didn’t say anything about amenity usage per property as the measurement, only per unit of measurement which in many cases will be per person. The property information is secondary to the overall base of the smallest measurable unit. Maybe you should take a reading comprehension class before commenting on something you obviously know little about.

rockyhyder 02-25-2022 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2065801)
Share with us your plan, and how it would benefit us.

Nice try Laker. I wasn’t born last night!

Bogie Shooter 02-25-2022 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rockyhyder (Post 2065803)
We already have a lot of information based on the current reservation systems (tee times, court reservations, club membership,etc). Additional information could be gathered by recreation staff as they visit each rec center during normal duties and record the number of people using the amenity. Over time the data collected will show a median or average to establish a baseline.

Have talked to any of the recreation management team…..a lot of the info is already available "…."…………….and probably being used for planning.

You may also want to explore how to run for one of these boards "…………….

Bill14564 02-25-2022 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rockyhyder (Post 2065813)
Bill YOU assume a lot! I didn’t say anything about amenity usage per property as the measurement, only per unit of measurement which in many cases will be per person. The property information is secondary to the overall base of the smallest measurable unit. Maybe you should take a reading comprehension class before commenting on something you obviously know little about.

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Topspinmo 02-25-2022 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2065791)
Somebody who presumably knows more than us has decided on the capacity of the wood shop.


Yes, I’d you got members only hogging all the time. Why are majority paying for something they can’t use?

Marathon Man 02-26-2022 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rockyhyder (Post 2065797)
Didn’t say that. I said there may be a better approach. As you can see on this thread some people have already become defensive, trying to protect their turf, defend the Amenity Committee’s or make excuses. I expect a good number of Committee members would react the same way because we are all resistant to change if we’re honest about it. The difficulty lies not with a new idea, but escaping the old ones.

Lots of words on this forum, which will result in zero. I simply ask if there is any intention to attend a meeting. Someone who believes that they have a good solution to a problem should take that solution to those who can turn it into action.

rockyhyder 02-26-2022 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 2065919)
Lots of words on this forum, which will result in zero. I simply ask if there is any intention to attend a meeting. Someone who believes that they have a good solution to a problem should take that solution to those who can turn it into action.

I refer you Sir to the last sentence. It’s not the new idea but getting past the old one. Simply going to a meeting to present a new idea without a strategy to overcome the old is about as useful as criticizing someone working toward a solution without offering to be part of it.


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